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dynamix
15th February 2002, 21:12
Hi,

I've been spending about 2 hours trying to manually determine an IVTC pattern with my DVD in TMPG as outlined in Doom9's Nandub encoding guide. However I am still completely stumped. My video source is:

4:3 aspect
29.970 NTSC
interlaced

The guide says I need to do IVTC with NTSC, so I do. I pick field order A, as this looks fine and B looks horrible. Now I try to pick my pattern in inverse telecine. Here is my HUGE problem. I jump ahead and look through my frames and find 1 frame that looks perfect and is not all horizontally jagged and interlaced-lookin. I look for my next, and next, and end up with a pattern like this:

1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 1

Then I skip to another part of the movie which actually turns out worse.

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

Every frame has a high flicker rate and every frame looks horribly interlaced. (sigh)

So right now I'm stuck. I'm positive my field order is correct. I'm positive I've followed the guide exactly. It was all very easy up to this point.

Can anyone please help me with this problem? I believe the original video source was not shot on film, maybe digital for videotape. It doesn't look like film, more like the pictures from a highquality digital videocamera. This might or might not be important, just thought I'd better put include that info.

Many eternal thanks in advance, Dave

Kedirekin
16th February 2002, 12:41
I don't think there is a problem with IVTC here. I think the problem is the source isn't telecine. You shouldn't try to apply inverse telecine to something that isn't telecine to begin with.

Nogami
17th February 2002, 07:24
Inverse Telecine is only applicable for film sources that originate at 24fps, and have the 3:2 pulldown added to bring it to 29.97fps.

If all of your frames have interlacing, then it's not a film-source project, so there's no way to IVTC it without making it all jerky and such. You could still convert it to 24fps if you want, but there's probably not much point.

phuntyme
18th February 2002, 09:22
Someone may have already figured this out if you tell us what title it is. Someone may even own (shock horror ;) it to test for you.