Dvd to .avi question

[Mildragon]

Hello everyone. My DVD source consists of 4 .VOB files.

FIRST .VOB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps--->(different compared to the other 3 .VOBS)
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.946

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits



SECOND .VOB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.183

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -582ms

THIRD .VOB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 4mn 26s
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 30.3 Mbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 3.658
Stream size : 961 MiB (94%)

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 4mn 26s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -708ms
Stream size : 14.2 MiB (1%)


FOURTH .VOB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Bit rate mode : Variable
Nominal bit rate : 9 800 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Standard : NTSC
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Scan order : 2:3 Pulldown
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 1.183

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Duration : 32s 736ms
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Video delay : -446ms
Stream size : 1.75 MiB (0%)


Could anybody tell me how the heck am I going to convert this DVD to .AVI? Because I did it (using Megui-->.AVS script creator-->File Indexer via DGindex) and I got a lot of asynchronous audio in the final output (.AVI). By the way the .AVI output was converted to 23,976 fps.

[Chetwood]

Try Staxrip, open single or merged and mark all VOBs. And where are the IFOs?

[Mildragon]

This is the .IFO:


Format : DVD Video
Format profile : Program
File size : 112 KiB

Video
ID : 224 (0xE0)
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Bit rate mode : Variable
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 480 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Standard : NTSC

Audio #1
ID : 128 (0x80)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Language : English


I don't like very much StaxRip. I prefer Megui. Though I'll give it a try.

[Mildragon]

I just also noticed that there happens to be an audio and video duration mismatch. Here's the info from the .AVI output:

Format : AVI
Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
File size : 1.22 GiB
Duration : 1h 34mn
Overall bit rate : 1 856 Kbps
Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

Video
ID : 0
Format : MPEG-4 Visual
Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
Format settings, BVOP : Yes
Format settings, QPel : No
Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
Codec ID : XVID
Codec ID/Hint : XviD
Duration : 1h 34mn
Bit rate : 1 400 Kbps
Width : 720 pixels
Height : 400 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16:9
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Color space : YUV
Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
Bit depth : 8 bits
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.203
Stream size : 942 MiB (75%)
Writing library : XviD 64

Audio
ID : 1
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Mode extension : CM (complete main)
Codec ID : 2000
Duration : 1h 33mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Side: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
Bit depth : 16 bits
Stream size : 301 MiB (24%)
Alignment : Split accross interleaves
Interleave, duration : 42 ms (1.00 video frame)
Interleave, preload duration : 500 ms

[Ghitulescu]

Well, there is no use in using any of these softwares on a "source" made of 4 different parts.

[hello_hello]

Normally when opening a vob, file encoder software will include any sequentially numbered vob files by default (vts_01_01.vob, vts_01_02.vob etc), so opening the first one would cause the three which follow to be included in a single indexing/encoding job. Assuming four vob files make up a single movie, using software on a source made of four different vob files would be perfectly normal.
MeGUI does have a setting to disable autoloading of incremental vob files which will let you encode them individually (although if I want to do that I just rename them), however you'd then have to rejoin the individual AVIs anyway.

Does the audio delay change throughout the video or is it constantly out by the same amount? If it's the latter, maybe for some reason the audio isn't being muxed into the AVI with the correct amount of delay. You can open the AVI with MPC-HC and use the + and - keys to change the audio delay until it's in sync, then skip to another part of the video. If it's still in sync you can probably fix the AVI by remuxing it with the correct amount of delay (MPC-HC will display the delay amount in the status bar).

Do all four vob files definitely make up a single movie/title? When you analyzed the video before encoding what was the result of the analysis?
MeGUI has an option to "auto force film" which caused me a problem at one stage, partly because it changes the dgindex file when it does "force film". You could try disabling it and starting from scratch, re-indexing the file and running a fresh analysis, although I'm not sure that could cause the problem as being in PAL land I don't have to worry about IVTC all that much.

Are you 100% sure the DVD was ripped correctly? You could try opening the ripped files with DVD Shrink and using it's re-author mode to re-save (backup) the movie as a new set of vob files to see if that changes anything.

If all else fails, try using AutoGK. As much as I like MeGUI for x264 encoding I still use AutoGK for converting DVDs to AVI. It virtually never gets it wrong and even if I'm having problems converting a DVD to MKV with another program I fall back to running AutoGK on the same files and comparing the script it creates with the script the other program creates to see where they're not agreeing on IVTC/de-interlacing etc.

[diogen]

Could anybody tell me how the heck am I going to convert this DVD to .AVI?I suspect the first VOB was screwed up when being edited.
That's the reason it isn't even recognized as telecined material...

Try converting parts 2+3+4 (excluding the first).
Do you have audio sync issues?

Diogen.