AsRock Core 100 HT - HD audio autput with LAV

[fano]

I want to use LAV as it seems more interesting for me for the BD folder structure opening thing... but I couldn't have Dolby True HD neither DTS-MA... I've AC3 and DTS only.
(NOTE ffdshow Audio it's the same too :mad: )

My system is AsRock Core 100 HT based on Intel Core I3 (Intel H55 Platform? I'd say) that is should support HD audio via HDMI, right?

MY AVR is a Sony STR-DN1020...

Intel GPU/HDMI Audio drivers are 6.14.10.5248 and I'd like to use the old, but stable Windows XP SP3 :sly:

Have you any idea?

:thanks:

P.S. why madflac instead of ffdshow audio? It's so better?

[rica]

Did you give it a go with any discrete GPU with your AVR to compare?

As for flac, I must admit I haven't tried it with the new version of ffdshow.

[ManiacDC]

Did you give it a go with any discrete GPU with your AVR to compare?

As for flac, I must admit I haven't tried it with the new version of ffdshow.

I've had more problems with madflac than ffdshow with various files, so personally I've stuck with ffdshow.

[rica]

Then I should test it again with ffdshow and lavaudio.
How about lavaudio comparing with ffdshow?

[fano]

Did you give it a go with any discrete GPU with your AVR to compare?


I'd suppose this is impossible... AsRock Core 100 is a nettop; it should be no space for a discrete GPU... let's see:

http://notebookitalia.it/images/stories/asrock_cebit_2010/asrock_ion_330ht_bd.jpg

There's a tool to see if HD audio is supported?

I'm thinking should it be a cable problem?

Tomorrow (or today as it's 0.50/12.50AM for me now :p) I'll to use TV cable that I'm sure it's 1.4a... so I'll be sure it's not a cable problem ;)


As for flac, I must admit I haven't tried it with the new version of ffdshow.

I, too, see none hiccups using ffdshow for decoding flac audio, so I'd say no problem ;)

The problem is LAV how decode flac audio :confused: better, equal, worst of ffdshow audio?

It's a LAV Video, too, but I've not heard nothing about it, so I suppose it's better to stick with ffdshow for the video part, for now at least, right :sly: ?

[rica]

First, try to use extended display mode and use a DVI to HDMI cable for audio and use an HDMI to HDMI cable for video.
If it doesn't work, change your cable.

I use an nVidia external card, 550 Ti, so lavvideo uses CUDA for HW accelerated decoding. However, you have to use ffdshow with your Intel for its DXVA acceleration feature.

As for decoding flac capabilities of the filters, I will test them later.

[fano]

First, try to use extended display mode and use a DVI to HDMI cable for audio and use an HDMI to HDMI cable for video.
If it doesn't work, change your cable.


The problem is the lilt' beast has only VGA and HDMI ports no DVI!
So it's impossible to do this test... I'd disconnect the AVR from the TV and use VGA to connect to TV, but it'd be a durable solution, right?
I suppose new Core 100 have DVI (and maybe display port, thunderbolt, ...), too :scared:

I've, however, changed my HDMI cable between HTPC and AVR with one that's HDMI 1.4 (with LAN and theoretically ARC - Audio Return Channel), but only DTS without MA light is on... that is the core is heard...

Now I retry with LAV Audio... yesterday TV liked to interfere... it had HDMI control ON and degraded AVR to Stereo Only :mad: so I've discarder LAV as buggy... my TV s buggy not LAV :p

Then I'll try a trial of some commercial software as Power DVD or Arcocsoft's TMT and I see if HD audio has heard...
it should be an way, right? And I've to found it!

Another question.... if I'll renounce to this (in the end it's only a light on my AVR) how to know LAV/ffdshow are sending DTS-MA or Dolby THD tracks and not the core tracks?
If are the core ones all is last, my friends :mad:


I use an nVidia external card, 550 Ti, so lavvideo uses CUDA for HW accelerated decoding. However, you have to use ffdshow with your Intel for its DXVA acceleration feature.

As for decoding flac capabilities of the filters, I will test them later.

I'm not sure if the integrated GPU on the I3 is DVXA capable :o
I know ffdshow DVXA not worked neihter Intel QuickSync (I've to download a codec? I've none QuickSync.dll in my system... it's this needed?

:thanks:

[ManiacDC]

Do you have an i3-3XX or an i3-2XXX? If an i3-3XX, do you have the 4500HD or 4500MHD video card?

[fano]

It's a i3 330M I don't know if it has another name and the GPU is Intel HD Graphiscs.

CPUZ report follows (sorry a little long, and I've edited cutting the long series of hexspeaks... I hope no offense to anyone :scared:) :

http://www.4shared.com/archive/EY6wLrGj/AsRcok_Core100.html

[ManiacDC]

Still not sure what GPU it is, did you try GPU-Z? http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Your chipset is the HM55 and should support bitstreaming of HD Audio.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=78444

[fano]

Still not sure what GPU it is, did you try GPU-Z? http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/

Your chipset is the HM55 and should support bitstreaming of HD Audio.
http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?t=78444

Here GPUZ report:
http://gpuz.techpowerup.com/12/01/06/7fz.png

So what I've to do?

[rica]

I'm not sure if the integrated GPU on the I3 is DVXA capable :o
I know ffdshow DVXA not worked neihter Intel QuickSync (I've to download a codec? I've none QuickSync.dll in my system... it's this needed?

:thanks:

OK, it's my bad; it is for Sandy.
In your case, you can give it a go with CoreAVC+EVR/EVR Custom.

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[fano]

Yes in the end I've to buy CoreAVC $$$$... ffdshow 1080p H264s do not work well only in software! DVXA check box do nothing!

I hope in CoreAVC DVXA is activated... if it not work prepares to see an AsRock Core 100 practically ***NEW*** trashed as a piece of junk it is :mad:

P:S OS is XP so no EVR right? VRM9 only...

[rica]

Yes in the end I've to buy CoreAVC $$$$... ffdshow 1080p H264s do not work well only in software! DVXA check box do nothing!

I hope in CoreAVC DVXA is activated... if it not work prepares to see an AsRock Core 100 practically ***NEW*** trashed as a piece of junk it is :mad:

P:S OS is XP so no EVR right? VRM9 only...

My test is based on Seven 32 with a Clarkdale and of course EVR.
Furthermore, CoreCodec never says CoreAVC supports Intel at all.
This is my finding. (by mistake.)
Today, I've given it a go more than once, not to give a false information. But anyway...
EDIT: I've been trying with Eric's latest update but as for now, no hope...
LATEST EDIT: I got it with DXVA decoder of ffdsow 4225. It works like a charm. QuickSync doesn't work with my Clarkdale. (Neiither with Lav, nor with FFDShow.)

[ManiacDC]

Yes in the end I've to buy CoreAVC $$$$... ffdshow 1080p H264s do not work well only in software! DVXA check box do nothing!

I hope in CoreAVC DVXA is activated... if it not work prepares to see an AsRock Core 100 practically ***NEW*** trashed as a piece of junk it is :mad:

P:S OS is XP so no EVR right? VRM9 only...

What's wrong with software ffdshow? It's not like your i3 will have any problems playing via software.

[fano]

I don't know what happens and it's a little difficult to explain but I'll try... if I'm playing a 720p movie (with AC3 audio but it 's bitstreamed so it should not use CPU, right?), all is in slow-mo and audio do bitstream-no bitstream all the time (AVR lights on-off as trin bar semaphores do you understand :D ?)...

I suspect, in the end, something not work well in my system...

Sad thing is: CoreAVC did the same :mad:... if I change track
it seems to resolve the problems but it's a illusion... after 56 minute of bit-perfect movie playback (Reclock yellow, correctly as by your guide) something ugly happens; 10-20 frames are brutally skipped :scared:... but it's not movie problem, that is if rewind of 15 sec it works perfectly no frame is skipped anymore :scared:

I remember perfectly the same problem was present until I've set Reclock to always encode the audio in AC3... there's something in my system that interfere in some, very subtle, way at this point... the problem is how to find it?

I'd suppose that is impossible... the only chance I've, at thig nightmare point,... it's to renounce to bitstream (does not works and never will do) and convert all in LPCM and make RECLOCK do it's good molestation hoping in this way the frame lost phenomenon not repeat anymore :mad:

The fastidious thing is, maybe it's a wrong impression, but LPCM audio sound in some way a little different to bitstreamed audio... bass are more soft I'd say :sly:

How unlucky me... nothing works as expected... bitstream bugged, DVXA not supported (and it should, IMHO!) and so on...

[rica]

fano, I think it is time to format.

[fano]

Yep!

But what to do if it's formatted & clean by 3 days?
Maybe my Nlited image has broken something?

Strange all works well... and videos has this strange behavior?

It's the 5st format from 23/12/11, understand?
I don't know what I can do anymore?

I know what do you think... try Vista or 7... XP seems at the end blocked artificially... it's a pity IMHO it is the ideal OS for HTPC: slim & light... without strange things whit uncompromisable names (what's a WASAPI? A Indian kitchen plate? A type of flu? Maybe ;) )

Well I'd try to relax and think what to do... I hope to find a solution, but I'm thinking can be a sort of strange hardware problem (it seems like video & audio have some BIG drift sometimes, but VERY big as 20-30 frames need to be skipped to resync!)... maybe a BIOS update?
I don't know :o

Difficult to do all this tests now... as holidays are gone, sadly :mad:

Ohh Gods why YOU invented work? Bad idea in the end... :scared:

[ManiacDC]

Did you try a different video renderer? You might want to give that a shot (VMR7, Overlay, etc).

Beyond that, try Win 7/Vista as you said; they are much more stable than XP.