movies starts with 2 seconds not encoded...

[IG-88 Droid]

Hello all...

I'm new to DVD2SVCD, but I use it from version 1.0.6 Build 1.
I love it, and I think that CCE Encoder is the way to go!

I'm now with version 1.0.6 Build 4 and the trouble that I want to
talk about is the same with all previous builds too...
(1.0.6 Builds 1-2-3-4)

My "ONLY" trouble so far with this wonderful little prog is that
sometime my final SVCD rip start with a 2 seconds late from the
original DVD... I mean it's not the audio that's late, like some
other users had, it's the whole movie that's missing about 2 secs
from the beginning... Why?

Is there anybody here that has this too?

Like I said, sometime DVD2SVCD make it "PERFECT" but sometime I have
a 2 secs missing from the beginning of a movie, even if I use the
same movie again to test...So it's not movies specific...

Please help me, you're my only hope!!!

IG-88

[mkanar]

I manually ran bbmpeg with the dvd2svcd settings and I also noticed that dvd2svcd was using a start time of 2 seconds. Is this supposed to be the '2 second delay' at the beginning of the SVCD? My SVCD discs seem to start immediately but are missing the 1st 2 seconds of video; this usually isn't noticable, but I did notice it after encoding an AVI with DVD2SVCD.

Thanks!
MKanar

Update: Okay, upon checking it out in the DVD2SVCD application, DVD2SVCD says 'Movie Offset', not 'Movie Delay' like I assumed. Well, I guess that the great DVD2SVCD will (hopefully) explain this to us and we will understand. ;)

[ev]

Go to the BBMpeg tab and set the "movie offset seconds" to "0". This is not recommended although every DVD player I've tried works fine with this setting.

[IG-88 Droid]

I read on "DVD2SVCD 1.0.6 build 4 Newbie Reference"
this: Movie offset seconds leave at default 2.
Don't adjust unless experiencing synch problems.

Sorry, but I think it's for audio synch troubles
not for "ramdom 2 secs cut from beginning of movie"

By the way, I tested it...

I set offset to 1 and 0 but I have my same troubles again!!!
Thank's for the help...

IG-88

[IG-88 Droid]

It's me again, I just want to know how many users set the
BBMpeg tab "movie offset seconds" to "0"?

And do you have a 2 secs missing at the start of your movies?
(like me)
Thank's

IG-88

[Kedirekin]

It may be your stand-alone that is doing it. My Apex regularly chops 0-½ sec from the beginning and ½-1½ seconds from the end of every SVCD (actually, from every track).

I'd recommend watching the SVCD on your PC as a test. When I watch the same SVCDs on my PC, the missing seconds reappear.

[da franksta]

i use offset "0", i miss no more than maybe half a second

[ev]

I have tried setting the offset at 2 seconds and it definately cuts the first 2 secs of the movie. When I set it to 0 it doesn't.

[IG-88 Droid]

Thank's all...

You're right EV !!!

Setting the offset at 2 seconds,will chop 2 secs at the start of
the movie... (strange)

My setting was "offset 1" so I barely noticed the missing secs...
Now at "offset 0" all my tests and movies is fines!

(And Kedirekin, it was not my home DVD player, since WinDVD was
doing the same thing)

Why nobody noticed this? I'm sure plenty of users don't change
the offset to 0. It should be 0 by default

No?

IG-88

[phoenix_rb]

:confused: HELP!! Ok. I'm recording an opening sequence to an anime series, and you really notice any clipping at all. What I've seen with 1.0.6 build 1 was that if you set the offset to 0, you end up loosing the last two seconds of the clip, and if you set the offset to 2, you loose the first two. I figured out what was happening with 1.0.6 build 4. Since it was expecting 2 seconds less due to the offset, it ended up clipping the last 2 seconds off the end.

Explaination:
Actual length: 60 sec
Offset: 2 sec
Cut range: 2-60 sec
Final length: 58 sec
Result: Missing first 2 sec
----
Actual length: 60 sec
Offset: 0 sec
Cut range: 0-58 sec
Final length: 58 sec
Result: Missing last 2 sec

I don't know if there's a work around or if it's a bug problem... Please let me know...

[IG-88 Droid]

Humm, I like your point... (Missing 2 secs at the end)

But since I only encode full movie only I don't see any cut
at the end...

But to be honest, at the end of full length movie, it's the
credits, so at the very end of the credits it's black with no
sound at all (music). That's why I can't see the missing 2 secs
in all my RIPs...

But I'm pretty sure you're right about that.

Sound like a bug to me. If anybody has noticed this, please
help us.

Thank's

IG-88

[DDogg]

Why nobody noticed this? I'm sure plenty of users don't change the offset to 0. It should be 0 by default


Actually the reason for this is there are players that have a sync problem fixed with this delay.

Trust me on this, it might be a little better if you held back on opinions and statements like this until you get just a tad more experience in the advanced forum.

Just a helpful hint I hope you will consider :)

[phoenix_rb]

The fact that it's adjustable is good. With most movies I'll encode I'll have it on, just in case. But with somethings I want it to work right at 0 too without loosing seconds at the begining ot the end. The reason no-one noticed it would most likely be that on most things, they start and end with a few seconds of black. :rolleyes:

[Mozart]

@Ddogg

actually, such statement belongs to a strictly newbie mind. This thread fits perfectly in the DVD2SVCD newbie forum ;)

[IG-88 Droid]

@Mozart @Ddogg

"Such statement belongs to a strictly newbie mind. This thread
fits perfectly in the DVD2SVCD newbie forum."

"Trust me on this, it might be a little better if you held back
on opinions and statements like this until you get just a tad
more experience in the advanced forum."

I understood, and I apologize to all peoples/moderators/DVD2SVCD
staffs in this forum...

It was not my intention to shock someone.

Sorry, IG-88

[mkanar]

Originally posted by DDogg

Actually the reason for this is there are players that have a sync problem fixed with this delay.

Trust me on this, it might be a little better if you held back on opinions and statements like this until you get just a tad more experience in the advanced forum.

Just a helpful hint I hope you will consider

Originally posted by Mozart
@Ddogg

actually, such statement belongs to a strictly newbie mind. This thread fits perfectly in the DVD2SVCD newbie forum ;)


Hey now, I'm an advanced user and I'm not clear on this! :sly:

Seriously, this is my understanding of the situation:

- bbMPEG is muxing, starting 2 seconds into the movie. The output from bbMPEG does not have a 2 second delay at the beginning but rather
it starts 2 seconds into the video at 0 seconds. The video and audio are aligned the same way they would be if the muxing started at 0 seconds like usual, but the first 2 seconds of muxed file are essentially cropped out.

So I obviously don't understand something, but what? We know that the video and audio data are valid throughout the entire stream; we just encoded them.

Thanks!
MKanar

[dvd2svcd]

movie offset = cut X seconds at the start of the movie.

[mkanar]

Thank You DVD2SVCD for the information!

Now, why does this make a difference? :)