Faces Are Long -Cropping

[Jbrohms]

When I play a 16:9 encoded movie in fullscreen everyones faces and cars are tall. Is it always like this or am I doing something wrong.

I do go through the guide and do the auto cropping. Can't you take a 16:9 movie and make 4:3?

[manono]

Hi-
I'm not sure I understand the question.

If you encoded it properly (Wide Screen), and want to Full Screen it with proper Aspect Ratio (no skinny people), then it's a player issue. You might try BS Player or Zoom Player which allow you to do that (don't know why you'd want to, though).

If you took a Wide Screen movie and encoded it as is in Full Screen (with the resulting skinny people), then you screwed up, and you should reencode (although I believe Zoom Player will allow you to correct the AR).

If you want to encode a Wide Screen movie to play as a Full Screen movie, you can do that by hacking off a lot of the sides. It's a bit tricky, but it can be done. But you don't want to do that. You really don't want to do that.

[Jbrohms]

I'm playing this to my TV and I don't have a widescreen TV so why wouldn't I what to do this. I hate 16:9 movies exspecialy 2.35:1 because I have the huge black bars.

I want to encode a 16: movie so that when I view it it show full screen on my TV without black bars.

I have tried bsplayer and zoom and powerdivx also power dvd but when you tell it to go fullscreen the people's faces are tall.

Can't you crop this? I must be doing something wrong. Any ideas?

[jggimi]

I recommend that, if you haven't been through it, you review the Aspect ratios explained section of Doom9's guides. You'll find it in DVD Basics (http://www.doom9.org/dvd-basics.htm).

[Zhnujm]

please dont encode as fullscreen or you will hate yourself if you ever get a 16:9 tv ;)
just encode like the original dvd. almost every player is able to zoom the picture so that you can watch it fullscreen with no black bars on your 4:3 tv.

[Jbrohms]

Sorry maybe i'm not getting it. All I want to know is can I encode a 16:9 movie without the black bars so that when I watch it on my TV it's fullscreen like a movie that is 4:3

Can you show me if there is?

If the movie I rip is 16:9 I pick 16:9 in gknot and do the auto cropping and then select smart crop all and set res so that it is .27 or so and then run my compressabilty check and the adjust my res again. And then encode, but if you playback fullscreen black bars are there and it doesn't matter what player you use. if it can't be done then I guess I will have to watch it with black bars.

[Jbrohms]

Thank you Zhnujm


This is what I have been doing but if I zoom it makes there faces long and the cars are long and skinny. Is that just what happens when you zoom?

[Zhnujm]

with powerdvd you will get "long faces" thats true, but with the other players ?? are you sure the picture is correct before you switch to fullscreen ?
just select custom pan&scan in bsplayer and adjust the slider until you see no black bars.

[Zhnujm]

and dont use the aspect ratio settings in bsplayer (always leave on "original")
maybe that was the fault ?

[jggimi]

You could always encode from Pan and Scan fullscreen DVDs. Often there are both widescreen and fullscreen versions on the same disc.

[Jbrohms]

Can you do this w/PowerDivx? If not how do you adjust AC3 Volume in BSplayer?

[Zhnujm]

of course. click on the pan&scan button and use the control panel to zoom like you want.

[Jbrohms]

O.K. if I use BSPlayer then I can goto fullscreen w/no aspect ratio error, But You use PowerDivx and it's a off a little bit. How can I get my volume up in BSPlayer. Using AC3 Audio.

PowerDivx has like a booster that you can increase. but this program was design for this. How about bsplayer any why to boost AC3 volume.

By the way the difference is about 30db lower with bsplayer and I have to crank my receiver

[manono]

Hi Again- I see you found out how to full screen the movie in BS Player and keep the aspect ratio. Not so hard, eh?

Have you learned how to adjust the volume in BS Player, yet? It's in the exact middle of the main panel. Hold the left mouse button and slide to the right (I don't use AC3, but should work the same as MP3).

I'm playing this to my TV and I don't have a widescreen TV so why wouldn't I what to do this.

You sound like my wife. "I don't want to see black bars". So I set it as full screen. "But I want to see the whole movie". So I do that. "But now they're all skinny and tall". The reason you don't want to do it is, by full screening it you miss close to half of the movie. In addition, the director made it that way for a purpose, and that's the way it was intended to be seen. And as Zhnujm said, some day we'll all have wide screen TVs.

In addition, wide screen movies are easier to encode than full screen movies because for a given horizontal resolution, there will be many fewer pixels to encode. The quality will be much higher.

[Jbrohms]

In PowerDivx there's a DeDynamic filter for that lets you to pre-amplification and Dynamic Amplification. BSPlayer has this to but it doesn't seem to make a difference if you turn it up. I tried.

How come you don't use ac3 audio. That way you get full surround?

I guess I can just watch the movie the way the director cut it. Not a big deal.

Thanks everyone for your help!

[manono]

Hi-

I have a home theater of sorts and video out on the computer, and can enjoy the AC3, but most of my friends don't, so if I share, they won't get the AC3. So I just use MP3. On movies with good surround sound I'll get the Pro Logic fake surround sound.

Also, after coming down hard on you about full screening the movie, I'll confess to not liking the skinny picture of those 2.35:1 movies either, and I usually cut off some of the sides to make it 2.10-2.20:1.

I don't use Power DivX myself, but the thing is so full featured that there must be a way to do what you want with it. Let's see. In Options make sure you have "Original" in Custom Aspect Ratio (I'll bet you put 4:3), and then in the lower right of the Control Panel is the Pan And Scan Pad (right pointing arrow). Open that and then click 5 times on that lower right arrow, and then Full Screen it. Or fool around a bit till you get it right. That should do what you want.