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srfscenar
26th August 2011, 10:38
Hi all,
I have a finished and working project in Scenarist.
What are the steps I must follow in order to export the BDCMF Image to go to the replication factory? Am I inserting the AACS number or the factory does that? And where do I do that?
I am sure there are many, but I would appreciate your help.
And something else about the layer brake...
I have set the layer brake to a chapter in my m2ts feature file.
Will the player "jump" when it will change the layer, like the DVD's did?
Thank you and sorry for all these questions but my experience reaches up till a full finished HDMV authored project! No replication experience.
mp3dom
26th August 2011, 17:57
Bluray have seamless layer break, so no 'stops' during the layer change.
About replication, you need to do the image first, then the you need to output to CMF (steps are muxing as BDROM with encrypted sectors, image, and then CMF output as BDCMF).
About AACS, you basically choose the AACS revision (0.92, 0.95 etc) giving the AACS number to your replication facility that will do the rest (asking AACS keys to AACS, signing keys and certificate etc)
Ghitulescu
26th August 2011, 18:17
I think you need to contact the replicators first. Everything that will be said here might very well be invalidated by their specific requests.
srfscenar
26th August 2011, 18:48
Thanks both for your answers.
I see many settings can be changed in both CPS editor and the BDCMF editor. Do I have to change all of them?
Which are the necessary ones?
Sorry guys, i need detailed guidance in this...
lutinor
26th August 2011, 20:45
Thanks both for your answers.
I see many settings can be changed in both CPS editor and the BDCMF editor. Do I have to change all of them?
Which are the necessary ones?
Sorry guys, i need detailed guidance in this...
Correct me if i am wrong but Scenarist official support aren't suposed to help you about that ?
srfscenar
26th August 2011, 20:50
Correct me if i am wrong but Scenarist official support aren't suposed to help you about that ?
Of course, but the support contract is over. I am new here and noone knows how to do that. Don't ask...
Of course, if I cannot get any help from here, I will ask support from Sonic.
Thanks.
mp3dom
27th August 2011, 01:46
It's better if you ask the replicator about their specs. They should tell you at least the AACS revision that they want (this can also force you to get an ISAN and/or managed copy if the rev. is > 0.92)... Then you can proceed with next steps.
lutinor
28th August 2011, 08:07
Of course, but the support contract is over. I am new here and noone knows how to do that. Don't ask...
Of course, if I cannot get any help from here, I will ask support from Sonic.
Thanks.
Imo, this kind of compagny should give at least 5 years of support. Actually , I think it's still one ?
mp3dom
28th August 2011, 14:26
Yes, support needs renewal on a per year basis.
srfscenar
28th August 2011, 19:11
That's right mp3dom. Its annual.
And we would like to see If we could avoid another year's
support fee. That's why I need detailed guidance.
Thanks.
rik1138
7th September 2011, 02:09
Here's some basic instructions: (I'm using 5.3.1 currently, version prior to 5.3.0 might be slightly different)
Lots of info here, but it should get you from a finished project to a CMF replication image with no problem...
This is assuming a fairly basic disc with no outside-of-player interactivity (BD-Live, Managed copy, etc...)
Go to Tools/Settings, fill in Org ID and Disc ID if these are required. (Usually important for discs with any kind of Java or BD-Live functionality. If it's straight HDMV menus/playback, these can be left all 0's with no issues).
CPS Settings-
CPS Unit Info- If you had previously set Encryption to Unencrypted for BD-R burning and such, set it back to Encrypted in the Setting... button and hit okay. All the other settings are okay in their default state. If it already says Encrypted, then you should be fine.
Content Protection- Set to Ver 0.95, uncheck 'Enable Bus Encryption' unless told to use this. If the client doesn't know what it is, just uncheck it.
Managed Copy- Fill in ISAN number of provided. This is for managed copy... Under the assumption this is not to be used (I'm not sure if anyone was actually released a disc with managed copy on it, have they?) and no ISAN is provided, change the last two boxes to 000F and F. That's a sort of 'generic' ISAN that can be used to get Scenarist to allow you to continue and use the latest content protection.
File Size and BD System Use are fine in the default settings.
(Selecting Content Protection Ver 0.92 removes the ISAN options and other settings for replication, but if you plan on doing future blu-ray work, best to get to used to them.)
Next- Click the Layout Editor (Ctrl-L)
Disc Settings Tab-
Volume Label- Give the project a name, and select # of layers.
Click the 'Layout Disc' button at the bottom, and click OK to close the editor. If you change _ANYTHING_ in the project, go back to this editor and click 'Layout Disc' again. Sometimes it won't matter, other times it's critical (especially if you are manually adding files to the disc for any reason). Best to just get in the habit of doing this step before any Mux layout.
Added Note here: The only time the Layout Disc might fail is using dual layer discs if Scenarist can't happily find a layer break. In that case, you need to still select 'Layout Disc' FIRST with 'Automatic' selected (let it say it failed), then select Manual layout and select a break point, click 'Layout Disc' again until it succeeds (Layer 0 must be larger than Layer 1). If you need to redo this, switch it back to automatic, click the button and let it fail, then back to manual for the layer break. (Even though it 'fails', it still sorts the files on the disc, but only in 'Automatic' mode, it only fails because it can't find a layer break.)
Next is the Mux window (Ctrl-M)
Check Mux processing, Full Mux. (Full before replicating is a good practice, but you can use Partial if you are pressed for time.) Also, selecting 'Clean Disc Results' is a good idea before a final replication mux (but this will require a full mux, do NOT do this if you are just going to use a Partial Mux). Definitely do a Clean and Full Mux if you going from an unencrypted layout to the replication layout. Nearly every file has to be replaced anyway, so there's no speed gain by doing a Partial.
Check Image Processing and select a directory and BDCMF (unless you are sending to Sony are have been asked to use Sony's format).
Check Premastering and select a directory.
Click on Settings for Image Processing and you are presented with the ever-scary BDCMF Editor... (I have not sent a disc to Sony since Sonic incorporated the CMF tool directly into Scenarist, so I'm not sure what would need to be set there... If you need help with a Sony CMF, I'd contact the replicator directly, they'll probably be able to help.)
Fortunately, none of confusing options need to be touched. Here's what you set:
General Tab-
CMF Version 1.10
Master ID- Some unique ID that you can reference with the replicator. (If you put 'My_Movie_11223' there, you can tell the replicator you are referring to CMF image 'My_Movie_11223' and there should be no doubt as to what image they should be referring to. This should be different for every project you do. Also, letters, numbers and under-scores only are a good idea here.)
General(Extension) Tab-
Revision- 1
Disc Number- 1 (unless it's a multi-disc set, then the appropriate #)
Distributor- Distributor name (Your client most likely)
Content Owner- Owner of the content (again, your client or the person that created the actual content).
These are settings for managed copy and such, so aren't critical, but Scenarist requires something in these fields.
Disc Info Tab-
Defaults are fine here.
Title Info Tab-
Here you can place the title of the project, a copyright date, and select the regions you want the disc to play in.
Also, if your disc has BD-Java or BD-Live change those fields to 'USE'.
Nothing else is required.
NOTE- The region settings will NOT actually lock out the regions, they just tell the replicator what regions you intend the disc to play in. If you want a Region A only disc, you have to program the disc to read the region setting of the player and either start or stop playing based on what you find. It's not like DVD where you just click a box...
Content Protection Tab-
Defaults are fine here.
Process History Tab-
These are self explanatory. Your company's name, it's location, the author's name if you want... These are notes for the replicator.
Hit OK. If all fields are filled out correctly, it should just close.
All the areas where I note 'defaults are fine' would only need to be changed if specifically told to do so (things like Burst Cutting Area and other odd content protection are very specific, and rarely used on 'normal' Blu-rays). I've been doing Blu-ray since it started, and have never needed to change those default settings for any project or replicator...
Now, click Mux Start and pray! It's a good idea to open the Mux Remoting Server and CMF Remoting Server now and just leave them open. Scenarist will attempt to open these tools when it needs them, but if they don't open fast enough the mux will stop with an error about not being able to connect to a server (or something like that). If that happens, just start the mux again (using Partial Mux this time) with these two tools open and it will work fine.
When it's finished, in the CMF path you selected for Premastering in Mux configuration you will find a folder called Dst0 with 8 files in it (for a BD-50, probably 7 for a BD-25). Send the replicator _ONLY_ the files in the Dst0 directory. Here's a sample of the file names:
BDCMF.CMF
BDCMF.SHA
FAI.DAT
PACL0.DAT
PACL1.DAT
PIC.DAT
UCD.DAT
UD.DAT
Give or take a file (like PACL1.DAT, which is the info for the second layer of a BD-50), these are the exact files you are looking for to replicate with.
If sending on a hard drive, format the drive, drag the Dst0 directory onto the drive and then rename 'Dst0' to the Master ID you entered in the BDCMF Editor. Absolutely nothing else should be on the drive unless specifically asked for by the replicator (sometimes they want a separate MD5 or SHA-1 hash txt file to verify the drive contents. Not really required since the file BDCMF.CMF file already has this info, but include it if they ask). Multiple discs should be sent on separate drives to help guarantee that there is no confusion.
If sending via some digital transfer means, just select the individual files in the Dst0 and send them in whatever way is required by the replicator.
If you want to burn a BD-R for verification, the file UD.DAT is just an ISO of the disc, and can be burned directly with any image-burning software (or mounted). (Note- it's encrypted, so it won't play in a PS3 or most Sony Blu-ray players. A PS3 will state it's an Invalid Disc with a code of 80029906. If you have a PS3 Test, it will play fine on that, as well as most other brands of Blu-ray players.)
Let me know if an error pops up I didn't cover, or if there's any other questions...
Rik
srfscenar
7th September 2011, 07:37
rik Thank you very much for your time to write this down.
Your help is always priceless!
Hello and thank you rik for your very interesting post.
Well, I'm actually author some BD for replication but I've a problem for region my BD.
When I create my premastering MUX and I choose Region A allowed, Region B prohibited and Region C prohibited, my BD player (a region B one) play the BD perfectly...
Am I'm doing something wrong ?
Thank for your help.
srfscenar
2nd May 2013, 16:48
Well Genki, what you are changing does not affect the final disc at all but its necessary for the replication factory.
You have to program it by setting the PSR20.
Set it to:
1 for Region A
2 for Region B
and 4 for Region C.
If you want to be free for region A for e.g.
program it so if PSR20 is 1 goto Top menu or anything else
if its 2 or 4 usually goes to a page that says region error.
Thank you very much srfscenar, I test it this morning and it works perfectly.
I didn't think you must program the region in the first MO... :rolleyes:
If I understand, region information into Title Info from BDCMF Editor is just a single information for the replicator ? It didn't influence the BD ?
mp3dom
3rd May 2013, 09:45
The region code needs to be programmed at authoring stage using PSR20 register.
You SHOULD program it in a 'negative' way. If you want your disc to work with region B ONLY (PSR20=2) you should NOT jump to Top if PSR20=2, but rather jump to "region error page" if PSR20=1 or PRS20=4. This is needed because some region-free players (or other fancy 'out of standard' players) can output different values (for example '0' for regionfree). So in the first case (Jump to Top if PSR20=2) the disc would NOT work, but it will correctly work in the latter case. It's better to have a disc that wrongly works, rather than a disc that wrongly doesn't work.
Thanks for the tip mp3dom ;)
rik1138
5th May 2013, 02:11
If I understand, region information into Title Info from BDCMF Editor is just a single information for the replicator ? It didn't influence the BD ?
Yeah, it's just basically a note to the replicator that you intend the disc to be region locked. Some replicators (or maybe it's the verification tools) will check the code, and if they don't see that PSR20 was ever called, then they can let you know that the region coding was not programmed for, and likely won't be affective. (Not sure if they can verify a Java based check as easily or not, I think even most Java based discs will do the region check before launching the Java code though).
The replicator can still go ahead and make the disc, but without the programming to check for the regions, it won't do anything.
I see, thank you for your explanation ;)
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