What filter added subtitles to my AVI

[minaust]

I am mortally POed, really POed. I know what happened, I just need to know who (or more accurately, what) to blame. In my normal workflow, I don't rip the subtitles until last. However, this time, after completing the subs, I discovered I'd have to re-encode the avi. I'd already deleted the vobs when I discovered the second avi was hard-subbed with the .ass subs I'd previously created, complete with funky colors. The .avs file below is the one I used. It was loaded into virtualdub 1.9.11, and the codec was Xvid 1.32. The avs script, index, & subs all had the same file name, different extensions.

MPEG2Source ("C:\2010-The Year We Make Contact\VIDEO_TS\2010-The Year We Make Contact.d2v")

ConvertToYV12 ()
AutoCrop (Mode = 0)
Lanczos4Resize (720, 304)

Bottom line – which filter hard-subbed my video without my permission?:mad:

[manono]

Obviously, none of the lines in that script added in any subs. Open the AVI in VDub. If you don't see subs, then there aren't any. If you see subs then either you used a different script or you added them from within VDub.

And you don't need the 'ConvertToYV12()' line in the script as it's already in YV12. All DVDs are YV12.

And change the thread title so it actually relates to the subject matter of the thread. Like maybe 'What filter added subtitles to my AVI?'.

[Ghitulescu]

Why reencode the AVI when you have the VOBs? Just work on the VOBs.

No filter added subs to your video. But I think your player did (as an overlay, not hard-coded). Just disable the use of external subtitles from it.

[minaust]

Obviously, none of the lines in that script added in any subs. Open the AVI in VDub. If you don't see subs, then there aren't any. If you see subs then either you used a different script or you added them from within VDub.

Same script. And vdub is what convinced me it was hard-subbed. I don't use vdub's filters at all. All is done with avisynth. I've pulled out a bunch of filters, but you've got me thinking. I'll put 'em back, and see if I can duplicate the problem. And I'll look at the system tray this time.

And change the thread title so it actually relates to the subject matter of the thread. Like maybe 'What filter added subtitles to my AVI?'.

Love to. How? I wasn't thinking clearly at the time.

[manono]

Love to. How?
Hit the 'Edit' button followed by 'Go Advanced'.

[Vurbal]

Same script. And vdub is what convinced me it was hard-subbed. I don't use vdub's filters at all. All is done with avisynth. I've pulled out a bunch of filters, but you've got me thinking. I'll put 'em back, and see if I can duplicate the problem. And I'll look at the system tray this time.
Unless you have a source filter which references the subtitle file, you can rule out AviSynth completely. It can't magically include a stream that hasn't been loaded as a source.

[Ghitulescu]

Why don't you just move your subtitles out from the system?
Just save it on a different location (USB stick, portable HDD etc.) ... it won't be loaded or it would yield an error message (and thus you'll find the offender).

[minaust]

Why reencode the AVI when you have the VOBs? Just work on the VOBs.

No filter added subs to your video. But I think your player did (as an overlay, not hard-coded). Just disable the use of external subtitles from it.

I didn't like the file size, so I used the same script, same vobs. I just dialed the bitrate in xvid down a little. the first avi wasn't subbed but the second one was. Media Player Classic was giving me two sets of subtitles. I moved the .ass file out of the way, now I had only one set which I couldn't turn off. I dropped the .avi into VDub, & it was subbed there, too. That's when I went ballistic. I've since discovered that I still had the ace mega codecs pack installed from back when it was new. The damnedest collection of oddball, obsolete & outdated stuff you've ever seen. It's gone now & the third encode went normally. I thought I'd killed that years ago.

Bottom line, an encode was somehow hard subbed, and I know good and well *I* didn't do it. I mean there are multiple steps I didn't take. So what happened?

[hello_hello]

I didn't like the file size, so I used the same script, same vobs. I just dialed the bitrate in xvid down a little.

Seems for some reason Ghitulescu thought you were going to re-encode the first AVI, not encode a new one from the vob files.

I've since discovered that I still had the ace mega codecs pack installed from back when it was new.

Seems the codec pack includes DirectVobSub, the Matroska Media Splitter and ffdshow. All of them can load subtitles, but if one of them did someone else will have to explain how/why they would have automatically loaded them when encoding via MPEG2Source as I'm not sure.

[Ghitulescu]

Seems for some reason Ghitulescu thought you were going to re-encode the first AVI, not encode a new one from the vob files.
Could you just relax once in your life?
However, this time, after completing the subs, I discovered I'd have to re-encode the avi.

[hello_hello]

Could you just relax once in your life?

It seems I'm not the one who's uptight.