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Jeffg30
6th February 2002, 17:51
Thanks to a few of you I am so close I can taste it. Unfortunately I have a problem with the sound. I have redone it 3 times trying to follow the guides but the same result.

I play the movie and the sound goes in and out. It also does not seem to be in sync with the movie. There is usually a second file with the movie but that one has no sound at all.

I have tried setting Audio A to 128kbs and 160kbs. I have checked
the 1x vbr-mp3.

I noticed a couple of things:
1) I cannot change any values under Interleaving and AVI overhead
2) under Video it states Video(84%) with Average bitrate 906kbit/s
Video size 597990kb / 584mb even though right above it I have it set to 1cd at 695mb and under the DIVX4 sign it states total file size
695mb

When I go to select the audio track to use, I usually get at least 3 or 4 choices. I am not sure which to choose since they say the same thing but have different kbs amounts and sometimes, different delay numbers.

Also, I was under the impression that I had to enter a delay amount someplace. Where do I get that number? and where to I enter it?

The video looks good and it takes a lot less time to process with GK, I just need to get over the sound hump.

Any help would be appreciated,

Thanks,

JeffG aka Mafia Capo (I can't find a way to change my profile name)

jggimi
6th February 2002, 20:14
Re: playing sound. I'll bet you're trying to use "The Playa." That avi player cannot decode VBR or ABR mp3 sound, only CBR.

Re: Audio track selection. There's a .txt file created by SmartRipper, from the .ifo, that will tell you what each audio track is. eg: 5.1ch English, 5.1ch English, 2ch Korean, etc. It's not read by DVD2AVI, it's there for you to review.

Re: Audio Delay. You'll note the audio delay is right there in the text file -- from the .ifo, and in the file names created by DVD2AVI demux.

Re: video file size -- Gknot will calculate total size taking into account:[list=1]
The total .avi size you want
Main video
Credits
Audio sound track(s)
Audio interleaving overhead(s)
[/list=1] If you encode credits separately, GKnot will recalculate main video based on the results. If you let GKnot do the audio encoding, it will automatically recalculate based on the size of the audio file it creates.

Jeffg30
6th February 2002, 20:36
Yes, I was trying to use "The Playa".

I will try to find another player. I have Realone. I should be able to find a few other viewers.

I saw the delay times at the end of the ac3 streams but, like I said, sometimes it would have 3 English streams with different kbs and 2 would have different delay times then the 3rd one.

Should I use only ac3 or keep the vbr-mp3. the only reason I used that was that was what I had to use in Nandub when I used it separately. I don't know of any benefits over the others.

I'll be mad if it was the player that was the problem. I lost a lot of time reprocessing this because of the sound.

Thanks,

Jeff

Jeffg30
6th February 2002, 22:13
Well I used Realone and the sound is perfect and the video is perfect.
However, it is just a fraction out of sync. Almost to the point of not noticing but eventually it is apparent. I guess I need to adjust the delay. would that mean raising or lowering the delay?

jggimi
7th February 2002, 00:28
There are many avi players that will work fine. Doom9 has a slew of them in his Download (http://www.doom9.org/software.htm) section. You'll find reviews of many of them here in the forum, also.

While hunting, you could live with using Windows Media Player 6.4, 7.1, or 8 .. depending on the version of Windows you're running.

(I've tried a number of 3rd party players, and I happen to like BSPlayer. Try several, as personal preference rules.)

The limitations in "The Playa" should keep you away from it, unless and until its developers make improvements. I haven't been able to find any comment from them about this particular limitation at their website.

Still confused about which track is which? When you look at the .txt file SmartRipper creates, you'll see the tracks in order. 80 = Track 1 -- and that's the default audio track on the DVD, 81 = Track 2, 82 = Track 3, etc. See It's up to you to determine which track you want to use. I deviate from Doom9's guide in that I only demux a single track, rather than all tracks. If you're not sure you're getting the right track ... use either Azid or a DVD player to determine which audio track you want.Should I use only ac3 or keep the vbr-mp3. the only reason I used that was that was what I had to use in Nandub when I used it separately. I don't know of any benefits over the others. The ac3 files are Dolby Digital. If your PC can do Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound, then "just mux" the ac3s. Mine can't, so I use abr mp3.

If you haven't yet read the section, I heartily recommend Doom9's DVD Basics (http://www.doom9.org/dvd-basics.htm).

Jeffg30
7th February 2002, 02:19
I will print those links up.

After looking at the guides and the ac3 outputs I figured out that the 6ch is the 5.1 I don't want that.

I still get 3 or 4 english ones. So I just went with the 1 ch english. Figure I give that a try first.

I did stick with the vbr and just mux. I see I had a few settings wrong when I was doing it before. All part of the learning curve.

I hate Windows Media Player. I use it if I have to (I run Windows XP at home and laptop and Win 98 at work). I like Real Player much better. Now it is Realone and has all the codecs and players built in. Works great.

I have one running now. We will see in the morning how it worked out.

Thanks,

Jeff

jggimi
7th February 2002, 13:53
After looking at the guides and the ac3 outputs I figured out that the 6ch is the 5.1 I don't want that Usually, you do want it. Azid will transcode those 6 channesl down to to 2 channel wav, and even include Dolby Surround in it. Lame is then used to create abr or vbr mp3 from the wav file.