DVDLogic EasyBD Lite

[shon3i]

I can't believe that no one here, even i, skip this great piece of software that is completely free and useful.

http://www.dvd-logic.com/easybd/

http://www.dvd-logic.com/easybd/easybdlite.zip

Off course there is payware version that offer much more like menus and navigation, but current Lite version have more pros than Tsmuxer like stricter BD compliant, they are test software with eclipse verifier.

Only cons is lack of cli, so can't be used with our fav apps (BDRebulder, multiAVCHD and many more)

[lutinor]

I can't believe that no one here, even i, skip this great piece of software that is completely free and useful.

http://www.dvd-logic.com/easybd/

http://www.dvd-logic.com/easybd/easybdlite.zip

Off course there is payware version that offer much more like menus and navigation, but current Lite version have more pros than Tsmuxer like stricter BD compliant, they are test software with eclipse verifier.

Only cons is lack of cli, so can't be used with our fav apps (BDRebulder, multiAVCHD and many more)

Quick question :

If i use this free software, i can multiplex an h264/ac3 and if the tool say 'ok its done' , i get a 100% sure compliant blueray file thanks to the eclipse verifier which is 'in' the tool?

[shon3i]

Quick question :

If i use this free software, i can multiplex an h264/ac3 and if the tool say 'ok its done' , i get a 100% sure compliant blueray file thanks to the eclipse verifier which is 'in' the tool?
No since this is not verifier, this is muxer. But possibilities that something gone wrong is less than with tsmuxer.

[Video Dude]

Good find shon3i. I did not know there was a free version. I'll test it later.

I took a quick look at the program specs on the DVDLogic site. It lists SST (*.sst), BDN XML (*.xml), and PES (*.pes + *.mui) as supported subtitle formats. Do you know if it will mux SUP subtitles?

[shon3i]

No but using great program BDSup2Sub, you will convert it just in moment to BDN/XML

[laserfan]

current Lite version have more pros than Tsmuxer like stricter BD compliant, they are test software with eclipse verifier.
Hmmm I wonder how you know these?

Nice to have a free alternative to tsMuxeR for sure.

[zeropc]

from a friend...

hi all,
I´m a professional BD-author and I created a lot BDs with EasyBD. they all have been replicated without any problems - passed eclipse verifier.

we also tested/tried TSmuxer, but all tests have fail the eclipse-test. that´s why I would advice EasyBD.

cheers

[lutinor]

from a friend...

hi all,
I´m a professional BD-author and I created a lot BDs with EasyBD. they all have been replicated without any problems - passed eclipse verifier.

we also tested/tried TSmuxer, but all tests have fail the eclipse-test. that´s why I would advice EasyBD.

cheers

Yea but as said before, you need 100% valid media, EasyBD is just a muxer

[rik1138]

from a friend...

hi all,
I´m a professional BD-author and I created a lot BDs with EasyBD. they all have been replicated without any problems - passed eclipse verifier.

we also tested/tried TSmuxer, but all tests have fail the eclipse-test. that´s why I would advice EasyBD.

cheers

NEVER use what is essentially a 'hacker tool' for replicated work. TSmuxer is great for making quick BDRs and such (I've never had a disc made with it not play anywhere), but it does not make 100% spec compliant files (as the verifiers will tell you). It's a homebrew app probably programmed by someone that didn't have access to the BD spec... As great as some of these tools are that we have access to, I'd be very careful about using any of them on a disc you plan to replicate and sell to the public. While there is a good chance you wouldn't have that many problems if you did this, it really is a very bad idea to even consider it.

I still think it's funny that people keep suggesting things like EasyBD, Netblender, even Scenarist instead of TSmuxer because it doesn't make spec-compliant files... TSmuxer was never _intended_ to make spec complaint files, it's just designed to make output for homebrewers that don't have access to commercial software (or want a quicker alternative).

Keep in mind, when TSmuxer was written, I don't think any of these commercial tools were even available (except Scenarist). And it hasn't been developed or updated in nearly 2 years... And look at the name of it: _TS_muxer. It's intent was just to make transport streams... They threw in the BD structure option just because it was simple enough to piece that together (but without regard to following the spec). If it was still being developed, I'm sure the spec compliance could be addressed (I'm sure it's missing header info or something), but even if it would pass Eclipse, I still wouldn't use for replicated work... Can you imagine the response from a studio or client if they found out you just whipped up their disc with TSmuxer? :cool:

[shon3i]

Well i don't know for eclipse and tsmuxer, but tsmuxer can pass Sony BD verifier in some cases, usually 1080p24 with one audio, and usually fails on dirty hacks that patches some stream before mux, not always, and is possible to out without error and even warnings. And i am agree with you, i also can bet that they make BD output without exact specs, since they are broadcast company and make TSMuxer for their needs.


Hmmm I wonder how you know these?From their site

February, 28th, 2011: EasyBD version 1.0.8.5 released! .... Eclipse testing passed....

[setarip_old]

1) It's hard to believe that semi-professional, commercial software would truncate (either for real, or in order to save screen space) progressive fps from 23.976 to 23.97.

2) Anyone know where the publisher is located?

All I could find is:

Address: Bucha Irpin
General phone: 0000000
Sales phone: 0000000
Support phone: 0000000
Fax: 0000000
Contacts: Valery Koval

[DVD Logic]

DVDLogic Software, Kyiv, Ukraine

[shon3i]

Hi DVD Logic, nice to see you here, i hope you get great feedback for your software. I hope you will continue maintain EasyBD Lite, and maybe add some CLI support, because this community nothing else need :)

[laserfan]

Well i don't know for eclipse and tsmuxer, but tsmuxer can pass Sony BD verifier in some cases, usually 1080p24 with one audio, and usually fails on dirty hacks that patches some stream before mux, not always, and is possible to out without error and even warnings.
Given the extraordinarily widespread use of tsMuxeR here-and-elsewhere to make homebrew BD discs, I just hafta wonder about the "usually fails" comment--the tsmuxer thread is among the quietest here. I for one have never, ever, had anything I've done with tsmuxer glitching in any way on playback. So if the "failure to comply" to BD spec doesn't manifest itself in any real-world problems, well, who cares? At least, who cares in the hobbyist community (not commercial). ;)

So whereas I'll try EasyBD for grins, I'll be reluctant to Fix my muxes w/EasyBD given that my present MO Ain't Broke afaict. :)

[laserfan]

Well I gave this a try and it crashes ("Unhandled exception has occurred") on the .xml (subtitle) files I made using BDSup2Sub ("There is an error in XML document"). Have others here gotten this to work?

Without the .xml sub it works OK.

[DVD Logic]

Hi!

I think XML format is not BDN. If you send me your XML to support@dvd-logic.com i'll try to fix the problem in next version.

Thanks,
Valery.

[laserfan]

I think XML format is not BDN.The program's right here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145277) if you want to make one yourself. A sample:

<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<BDN Version="0.93" xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" xsi:noNamespaceSchemaLocation="BD-03-006-0093b BDN File Format.xsd">
<Description>
<Name Title="subtitle1_exp" Content=""/>
<Language Code="eng"/>
<Format VideoFormat="1080p" FrameRate="23.976" DropFrame="False"/>
<Events Type="Graphic" FirstEventInTC="00:00:02:00" LastEventOutTC="00:28:04:15" NumberofEvents="261"/>
</Description>
<Events>
<Event InTC="00:00:02:00" OutTC="00:00:03:05" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="743" Height="60" X="589" Y="916">subtitle1_exp_0001.png</Graphic>
</Event>
<Event InTC="00:00:04:03" OutTC="00:00:06:22" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="865" Height="135" X="526" Y="841">subtitle1_exp_0002.png</Graphic>
</Event>
<Event InTC="00:00:08:18" OutTC="00:00:09:18" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="300" Height="50" X="809" Y="915">subtitle1_exp_0003.png</Graphic>
</Event>
.
.
.
<Event InTC="00:26:40:09" OutTC="00:26:42:11" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="913" Height="134" X="501" Y="842">subtitle1_exp_0259.png</Graphic>
</Event>
<Event InTC="00:27:48:02" OutTC="00:27:51:17" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="1027" Height="60" X="445" Y="916">subtitle1_exp_0260.png</Graphic>
</Event>
<Event InTC="00:28:03:09" OutTC="00:28:04:15" Forced="False">
<Graphic Width="233" Height="49" X="844" Y="916">subtitle1_exp_0261.png</Graphic>
</Event>
</Events>
</BDN>

[DVD Logic]

Ok. Thanks. Looks like BDN.
Would you please attach several PNG files also ?

Valery.

[Video Dude]

Valery, do you plan to add SUP subtitle format in a future version of EasyBD?

[laserfan]

Ok. Thanks. Looks like BDN.
Would you please attach several PNG files also ?Just open a .sup with BDSup2Sub and output as XML/PNG.

Most of the folks here are going to use BDSup2Sub anyway to get subtitles into your program, so you may as well see what it does.

[shon3i]

@laserfan, firstly i didn't try to mux BDN/XML, but i get same error like you. Good thing that same output from BDSup2Sub work fine with scenarist, and pes produced by scenarist aslo work fine with easybd lite, but that is not easy and free way. Btw there is other sup processing tools i can't rember name but there is one or two at least, that can convert to BDN/XML just for test. Also Subtitle Workshop should can easily convert BDN/XML to SST.

Adding .sup support will be ultimate solution, also i must again ask about CLI support in near future for free version ?

Given the extraordinarily widespread use of tsMuxeR here-and-elsewhere to make homebrew BD discs, I just hafta wonder about the "usually fails" comment--the tsmuxer thread is among the quietest here. I for one have never, ever, had anything I've done with tsmuxer glitching in any way on playback. So if the "failure to comply" to BD spec doesn't manifest itself in any real-world problems, well, who cares? At least, who cares in the hobbyist community (not commercial). Well we know that real world problems is much less or non-exist than theoretical, tsmuxer, for now i never ever seen that create unplayable disc, only bad when pulldown is used, but that is rare. In other word, if you do it for home, you don't need to worry at all, tsmuxer is really great piece of software. But i am little perfectionist i love everything to be best as possible, beside that has no impact on future, or anything

[laserfan]

...tsmuxer is really great piece of software. But i am little perfectionist i love everything to be best as possible
Yeah I hear ya, I'm [overly] perfectionist too, but I have no access to some of the high-end tools you have (like Scenarist and those BD analysis proggies). So in my case that's a good thing. ;)

As it is I have access to Sony Vegas w/DVDAPro which doesn't like x264's b-pyramid option (have to set it to none) and for a while I was encoding with --b-pyramid none just in case I ever wanted to use DVDAP to mux it! Then after realizing I'd never mux w/DVDAP (I can make menus with it and then paste-in the x264/tsMuxeR output) I put b-pyramid back-in again! :o

Anyway, I usually need subtitles in my BD creations so will just set EasyBD Lite aside until they fix this one. But thanks again for bringing this to our attention--finally a 2nd free BD muxer has appeared in the universe! :)

[lutinor]

I want to give a shoot at this tool but i can't manage to make a subtitle file in this tool.

EasyBd is suposed to eat :

.pes
bdn.xml
sst

I have a .srt file. How tools do you use to make EasyBD happy ? I used Easysup without succes :(

Anyone have idea ? :confused:

EDIT: desoft Supconverter is working with easyBD but it's a very expenssive tool, i think there is some other tool which can do the job, help :(

[DVD Logic]

Hi and thanks all for suggestions! We fixed the 2 main problems: BDN and SUP are completely supported now. You can download new version from www.easybd.org.

Best regards,
Valery.

[shon3i]

Wow, thanks, that was quick :).

[Capsbackup]

I have not tried this program yet, but does it have the capability to mux DTS Express secondary audio files and PiP video files ?

And,

also i must again ask about CLI support in near future for free version ?

[DVD Logic]

Hi. No, freeware version EasyBD Lite does not support secondary Audio/Video.

Val

[www669]

Hi and thanks all for suggestions! We fixed the 2 main problems: BDN and SUP are completely supported now. You can download new version from www.easybd.org.

Best regards,
Valery.

EasyBD 1.1 can't add sup subtitle:mad:

[DVD Logic]

April, 27th, 2011: EasyBD version 1.2 and EasyBD Lite version 1.0.9 released! New version has improved user interface, added SUP format for subtitles, improved import of XML BDN subtitles format. Update is free for all registered users.

[lutinor]

Is there here at least 1 user which use x264cli + easy bd plz ? :confused:

[shon3i]

Is there here at least 1 user which use x264cli + easy bd plz ? :confused:
I do, so far now i havent problems, but i am not tested all combinations just 1080p24

[www669]

April, 27th, 2011: EasyBD version 1.2 and EasyBD Lite version 1.0.9 released! New version has improved user interface, added SUP format for subtitles, improved import of XML BDN subtitles format. Update is free for all registered users.


:thanks:
i found it already!
can add sup format

[www669]

1.2version can surport PiP video files ??
is the add subtrack in easybd can add pip ?????????

[Capsbackup]

1.2version can surport PiP video files ??
is the add subtrack in easybd can add pip ?????????


Hi. No, freeware version EasyBD Lite does not support secondary Audio/Video.

Val

I did not see anything regarding PiP inclusion. :(

[www669]

I did not see anything regarding PiP inclusion. :(

:mad: me too ,i can't find how to add pip

[DVD Logic]

EasyBD and EasyBD Lite does not support secondary Audio/Video.
Oleg.

[Capsbackup]

EasyBD and EasyBD Lite does not support secondary Audio/Video.
Oleg.

Do you plan to, or will it ever be included?

[DVD Logic]

Hi! Our BD muxer kernel supports PiPs, but we do not plan enable PiP in EasyBD because of low selling level. If somebody wants PiP we can discuss all in private. However, maybe in future, we'll open PiPs ...

Best regards,
Valery.

[likwid8]

I've got mp4 file and it wont work, u think if I demux the mp4 I can use the video and audio files to load with it? thank you.

[DVD Logic]

What is mp4 ? I guess AVC, if so, just rename *.mp4 to *.avc and everything will be fine.

Val.

[Oleg Rode]

May I ask for the new feature? There is a nice option in multiAVCHD "force display of first subtitle track". Can you implement it in your software?

[iSeries]

Hi,

Hopefully the blu ray experts will be able to help with this. If I have a BD structure which has been muxed by tsMuxer, will de-muxing back to raw streams and re-muxing with EasyBD give me a more compliant structure? Or will I have to start from scratch and re-rip from the original disc? (Not that I've ever had any issue with a disc muxed by tsMuxer - but you never can tell the future.)

[shon3i]

From scratch, because sometimes tsmuxer rewrite stream.

[iSeries]

Grim. Ok thanks shon3i.

[DVD Logic]

May I ask for the new feature? There is a nice option in multiAVCHD "force display of first subtitle track". Can you implement it in your software?

Yes, we can think about this in future versions.

Regards,
Valery Koval.

[www669]

can add pip for it is very good

[DVD Logic]

New version EasyBD

May, 25th, 2011: EasyBD version 1.4 and EasyBD Professional version 1.4 released! New version has additional types of tracks (virtual, menu) and improved user interface. Professional version has BD and DVD reauthoring functions that allows import any BD or DVD directly into EasyBD.
May, 25th, 2011: EasyBD Authoring Suite 1.4 released! EasyBD Authoring Suite includes EasyBD Pro, IGEditor and BD Demuxer/DVD Demuxer (Import BD/DVD functions) in one package.

http://www.dvd-logic.com/easybd/index.html

[SquallMX]

I am getting choppy playback on TotalMediaTheater and MPC-HC (Using FFDShow/Internal Splitter) on EasyBD lite compilations, the ones created with TSMuxer played fine.

Here is a sample (includes output and source files)
http://www.mediafire.com/?6q22o5romy4n1m0

:thanks:

[MrVideo]

How does one create menus within EasyBD?

[DVD Logic]

How does one create menus within EasyBD?

Hi,

please download Interactive Menu Editor here: http://www.igeditor.com/. You can create any menu with Demo version. Then export it in IES file and specify the IES file in EasyBD, click "compile". Please refer to IGEditor Help file how you can step by step create menu from zero.

Best regards,
Valery.