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dipendotsFTW
30th December 2010, 22:11
hey guys could someone help me out?
i made a DVD using DVD rebuilder pro with Procoder and Avi Synth 2.5.8
the DVD plays fine on Windows Media Player and VLC.
its even burns perfectly fine.
but i put it in my Panasonic DVD player, it plays the main menu but it won't play the titles. (a little bit of the sound starts but then it goes away and no video is ever seen, basically a freeze-up but i can still navigate back to the main menu by pressing the menu button)
please help!!
thank you in advance

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 22:16
It's likely a media problem. It could be a burner issue, but that is less likely. You may want to lower the burn speed just to be safe. You may want to also note that AVISYNTH 2.5.8 is not approved for DVD Rebuilder... 2.5.7 is the highest tested/certified. There have been issues reported with DVD Rebuilder and AVISYNTH 2.5.8 -- but it was a long time ago so I'm not positive whether they are still valid. Is the burn being done with IMGBURN through DVD Rebuilder?

dipendotsFTW
30th December 2010, 23:02
i tried the DVD on both Verbatim and TY media. and i burn at 4x and verify. all is done via ImgBurn
so i don't think media is the issue.
but i had a slight oversize (approx 7 MB more), so i used DVDshrink to reduce the size.
i could try 2.5.7 and see if it makes a difference

jdobbs
30th December 2010, 23:26
i tried the DVD on both Verbatim and TY media. and i burn at 4x and verify. all is done via ImgBurn
so i don't think media is the issue.
but i had a slight oversize (approx 7 MB more), so i used DVDshrink to reduce the size.
i could try 2.5.7 and see if it makes a difference If you used DVDShrink after DVD Rebuilder, then the problem would be there -- since it restructures DVD Rebuilder's output.

I haven't heard of oversizing in DVD Rebuilder in a long, long time. Have you modified the targetsectors parameter? If so, I'd set my targetsectors smaller so you never oversize.

dipendotsFTW
30th December 2010, 23:40
yeah i changed the target sector output so i could get more bitrate.
okay i'll re-do the rebuild process and let you know how it works.
thanks.
i will make sure i don't have to use shrink. also what is the exact target sector value so that i can get an output size that is in between 4472-4474 all the time?
thanks

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 00:30
yeah i changed the target sector output so i could get more bitrate.
okay i'll re-do the rebuild process and let you know how it works.
thanks.
i will make sure i don't have to use shrink. also what is the exact target sector value so that i can get an output size that is in between 4472-4474 all the time?
thanks Unfortunately there isn't an "exact" target sector -- because the output of the encoders can vary slightly and the muxing overhead can also vary. If you've gone 7MB over I'd subtract about 20-30 MB from your previous settings.

Just some advice... my guess would be that running your output through Shrink after an encode will do a lot more damage in terms of quality to your DVD than you would ever experience through a little undersizing.

dipendotsFTW
31st December 2010, 00:59
i don't know, shrink didn't really do much to the DVD itself since it only shaved 7 MB off the disc.

btw is there anyway i could fix the Disc i made already?

jdobbs
31st December 2010, 01:02
i don't know, shrink didn't really do much to the DVD itself since it only shaved 7 MB off the disc.

btw is there anyway i could fix the Disc i made already? Having a pretty good knowledge of what happens when transcoding within the compressed domain, I would have to disagree. It really doesn't matter how much you're shrinking, in my opinion, it undoes what an encoder spends a lot of time making sure is done correctly. It just makes a lot more sense to do it right the first time. There are those might argue to the contrary -- I'm just not one of them.

Then again, it's just my humble opinion. ;)

HWK
31st December 2010, 03:46
Having a pretty good knowledge of what happens when transcoding within the compressed domain, I would have to disagree. It really doesn't matter how much you're shrinking, in my opinion, it undoes what an encoder spends a lot of time making sure is done correctly. It just makes a lot more sense to do it right the first time. There are those might argue to the contrary -- I'm just not one of them.

Then again, it's just my humble opinion. ;)

Don't worry I back up your humble opinion :cool::)

Ps: Happy New Year

Capsbackup
31st December 2010, 16:05
I just did a backup of a DVD with DVD-RB that was 5.86GB, using HC for the encoder to reduce to DVD5.
-----------------
[07:02:51] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- DVD-RB v1.28.2
- AVISYNTH 2.5.8.0
- HC v0.23.0.0 encoder selected
...
[07:28:58] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 6 minutes.

Done.

Since it only took 26 minutes to complete, I have to say time should no longer be the reason to use a transcoder! :p
AVISYNTH 2.5.8.0 works fine for me with Win 7 Pro, default size selected produced 4.32GB! :)
I haven't used DVD-RB much lately with mostly BD-RB testing of late, but this just reminded me of what a fabulous program DVD-RB is! :D ;)