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Priapismic
22nd December 2010, 20:37
Greetings,
I'll be visiting friends soon, and want to bring some blu-rays with me to watch on their PS3.
Rather than risk my precious original discs I will bring back-ups on BD-Rs.
Will regular back-ups meant for a normal STB play in a PS3, or do I need to modify them and burn new discs.
Thanks.
rik1138
23rd December 2010, 02:39
I rip with AnyDVD, and burn to BD-R. Works just fine in the PS3. Just as long as it's not one of these titles:
The Losers
Karate Kid (2010)
Salt
The Other Guys
Resident Evil: Afterlife
These have the new Cinavia audio protection which the PS3 supports, you will loose audio about 20 minutes into the feature. No work around, you have to use the real discs for these.
setarip_old
23rd December 2010, 04:47
No work around, you have to use the real discs for these.The exception to this statement is that if you haven't updated your PS3 to v.3.15 or higher, "Cinavia" will not affect the playback of burned BD-Rs...
Priapismic
23rd December 2010, 12:15
Wonderful news then, thank you gentlemen!
None of the titles I am bringing match the above listed.
Actually, I only asked this question because I too rip with Anydvd, and have noticed that the OEM discs seem to contain a folder lableled "PS3"....thought it was required.
rik1138
23rd December 2010, 22:31
The exception to this statement is that if you haven't updated your PS3 to v.3.15 or higher, "Cinavia" will not affect the playback of burned BD-Rs...
Yeah, true... In fact, my PS3 is at 3.10 and is staying there for that very reason. :) I fear this 'feature' is going to get more popular...
But, most people have updated... Especially since you can't play new retail discs with the 3.10 firmware anymore as the AACS keys have expired and require you to update the firmware...
Wonderful news then, thank you gentlemen!
None of the titles I am bringing match the above listed.
Actually, I only asked this question because I too rip with Anydvd, and have noticed that the OEM discs seem to contain a folder lableled "PS3"....thought it was required.
That folder just contains the PS3's firmware upgrade. If you leave the folder on the disc, and it contains a newer firmware than what's on the PS3 itself, it will ask you to upgrade it... that's all that is. Completely unnecessary folder. :)
Ghitulescu
27th December 2010, 09:13
Yeah, true... In fact, my PS3 is at 3.10 and is staying there for that very reason. :) I fear this 'feature' is going to get more popular...
But, most people have updated... Especially since you can't play new retail discs with the 3.10 firmware anymore as the AACS keys have expired and require you to update the firmware...
That folder just contains the PS3's firmware upgrade. ... Completely unnecessary folder. :)
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1466698#post1466698:p :p :p
rickwj324
27th December 2010, 14:50
I rip with AnyDVD, and burn to BD-R. Works just fine in the PS3. Just as long as it's not one of these titles:
The Losers
Karate Kid (2010)
Salt
The Other Guys
Resident Evil: Afterlife
These have the new Cinavia audio protection which the PS3 supports, you will loose audio about 20 minutes into the feature. No work around, you have to use the real discs for these.
That's strange.. I've ripped The Losers and the Other Guys to BD-9's with no issue, and RE: Afterlife to a BD-25 with no issues at all. All were done using AnyDVD and BD-RB. Haven't tried Salt or Karate Kid.
Ghitulescu
27th December 2010, 16:04
That's strange.. I've ripped The Losers and the Other Guys to BD-9's with no issue, and RE: Afterlife to a BD-25 with no issues at all. All were done using AnyDVD and BD-RB. Haven't tried Salt or Karate Kid.
Just in case you missed something:
The device must have cinavia enabled (not all of them do) and the title should have been "infected" with cinavia (again not all movies and/or their versions are) and the audio should be lossless HD and not the core or the additional AC-3 track.
rik1138
3rd January 2011, 20:08
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1466698#post1466698:p :p :p
I have to start watching the mod circles again for PS3 too... I'd love to update the firmware in my PS3 but not have Cinavia...
Problem with not updating a blu-ray player though is that it will stop working with retail discs. PS3 firmware 3.10 won't play any retail discs made in the last month or two (like the Aliens box set, for example). The AACS keys in the players firmware are only valid for 12-18 months. After that, you _have_ to update the firmware if you want to play new discs. It sucks that you can't just update the keys, and not the whole firmware, but I'm sure that's part of the plan... :)
But I haven't updated it yet... Waiting to see who this cinavia thing develops...
Ghitulescu
3rd January 2011, 20:25
Problem with not updating a blu-ray player though is that it will stop working with retail discs. PS3 firmware 3.10 won't play any retail discs made in the last month or two (like the Aliens box set, for example). The AACS keys in the players firmware are only valid for 12-18 months. After that, you _have_ to update the firmware if you want to play new discs. It sucks that you can't just update the keys, and not the whole firmware, but I'm sure that's part of the plan... :)
That's not entirely correct: only PC units are required to have the AACS updated, the standalones not. My 51FD is more than 2 years old, yet it plays everything I had. It's not even BD-Live-enabled (actually I wanted this since I can only update the unit using special FW CDs and not silently during visiting BD Live web pages), so one can imagine how old is this.
I think I should detail a bit: every BD player that is standalone, has a specific authentification procedure: one cannot simply exchange the BD drive and hope it will work, nope, no chance, one needs to have a Service Disk and some ID codes at hand. For this reason alone, the standalones have the privilege not to be asked for an upgrade (they are considered safe), all the PC HW and SW solutions are, however (they are not safe).
rik1138
4th January 2011, 22:15
Well, I'm specifically talking about PS3s... Only Blu-ray player I own. :) At work we update all the players with the latest firmwares, so I haven't seen a normal set-top box linger with an old firmware...
But, the PS3 _will_ stop playing new discs after about 12-18 months. Keep in mind, all previous discs still work, and will work forever. But new discs will not (again, I'm only speaking for the PS3 here...)
I have 2 PS3s (my 3.10 firmware machine, and another one that's up to date). I can't play the Aliens box set discs in the 3.10 player (tells me the AACS keys have expired and I need to update the firmware), but it still plays all my other blu-rays fine. The new PS3 plays everything... (I can rip the discs and burn BD-Rs for 3.10 with no problem of course...)
I wouldn't be surprised if other Sony set-tops do this too. Or it might just be something they implemented in the PS3 only... Might have to do with the removable hard drive? Or anticipating a need to replace the drive mechanism?
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