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[whiteshark999]

Can some one help my get rid of the thank you

http://img37.imagefra.me/s3bg/whiteshark/j7_cfd_u9hfa.jpg (http://imagefra.me/910hu2x1)

[Hagbard23]

Its Macroblocking....use DeblockQED...

Next time, you better write a littlebit more than that...please...

[Didée]

Mysterious. I know the movie, and I'm pretty sure that red circle should not be there. An alien footprint, maybe?


http://img2.imageshack.us/img2/6903/aliendeblock.th.png (http://img2.imageshack.us/i/aliendeblock.png/)


Ah, too late.

Also, why are people always doing strange cropping, with parts of the picture frame from the host application included, odd image dimensions that don't directly convert to YV12, etc. GRRR.

[whiteshark999]

thanks for the help can i get DeblockQED to work with staxrip thank.

[Didée]

I'm pretty sure you can use it there. But I'm not familiar with StaxRip, so I don't know how to integrate it.

For starters, you could simply use sth like "Deblock(30)" (the deblock() filter is part of e.g. dgdecode.dll).

[Hagbard23]

Either ask the StaxRiP-Developer (at home here in Doom9) or you manually modify the Avisynth-Script with the Deblock(30) Command, Didee mentioned ...

you just need a text-editor for that...

;) ;) ;)

[whiteshark999]

Thanks for the help you have lost me I don’t no where to start thanks anyway.

[Hagbard23]

Hey... no reason to throw everything away, little boy... just follow these things:

<I hope it works...i do not use Stax..>

Set up Staxrip as usual...as you set it up everytime, when you rip something...
Try to save the AVS-File instead of running it...means: Do not let the Encoding Start, but save the Set-Up-AVS File to harddisk.
Now, you open this AVS-File with a normal Text-Editor (Win-Edit for example)
You should see something like that:

MPEG2Source("C:\Users\Hagbard\Downloads\Sample.d2v",iPP=true,CPU=4)
TDeint(order=1)
Crop(12,58,-12,-58) # Crop the image correctly

Now, you just do simply the following:
You Copy THIS line after MPEG2Source:
Deblock(30)
After that it should look like this:
MPEG2Source("C:\Users\Hagbard\Downloads\Sample.d2v",iPP=true,CPU=4)
Deblock(30)
TDeint(order=1)
Crop(12,58,-12,-58) # Crop the image correctly

After that, you save this AVS File and try to open it (simply) with Stax-RiP...and let the encoding go...

....The meal is finished....

BUT: I really never used StaxRip...i just know, that it is based on AviSynth, i just estimated how it COULD work...

And: If you encounter further problems, don't be afraid to ask...its all about HOW you ask the questions...we all are very N00b-Friendly and try to help where we can...no fear.. ;)

[whiteshark999]

here is my atempt 2 i think its getting bad

http://img37.imagefra.me/s3bg/whiteshark/xb_d7c_u9hfa.png (http://imagefra.me/879hu3fi)

[Didée]

It is not clear if the problem ...

a) ... is already in the input (before encoding), or

b) ... is only in your result after encoding.


That's two different ballgames!


if a) : use a deblocking filter, as advised.

if b) : using a deblocking filter is pointless. Give the encoding more bitrate, and/or use a more efficient codec (i.e. x264 instead of Xvid).

[whiteshark999]

a) ... is already in the input (before encoding), yes

x264 no can do

i do have the vob file

[Didée]

So the blocking is already in the source?

Hmmh.

1) Macroblocks are 8x8 or 16x16.

2) Your screenshots are ~596 x 336. This means you have resized before encoding.

3) The blocks in your screenshot are 8x8.

_____

1) + 2) + 3) => the blocks in your screenshot cannot be blocks that are already in the source.

[whiteshark999]

So the blocking is already in the source? no not on the vob file

framsize 624 X 336

[Didée]

More bitrate. Just give it more bitrate.

Also, if it's one of the original Alien DVDs (not the "digitally remastered" ones) ... those have pretty much film grain. Film grain sucks bitrate, or causes artifacts when bitrate is too low. So, using a noise filter could help big time. However, the default noise filters offered by Staxrip are not sufficient.

The easiest way, really, is to give the encode much more bitrate. Double as much could be a good start.

[whiteshark999]

im still now there sorry to Bother you all.

[whiteshark999]

is there any how to's on geting rid of this thanks.

[Ghitulescu]

The artefacts you have are not on the DVD, that means that your "source" is recompressed. Start with the DVD again and follow Didée's advices (more bitrate :)).

[Didée]

Read this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=96137

In particular:
4) you can never give enough info
While from a problem solving standpoint, the info to really pinpoint a problem is normally not that much, you as a user will not know that. And so to prevent a lenghty pingpoing session in which you have to constantly give more info as you're being asked for, just try to give everything from the getgo. I realize this requires a certain extra effort and time, but that time is well spent as it normally permits others to more quickly solve your problem.

If you want to know what you did wrong, you need to tell what you actually did. It's that simple.

In case you don't want (or are not able) to provide information, work your way through the various Staxrip guides (http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/staxmedia/index.php?title=Guides).

[Hagbard23]

@DIDEE:

Word!....That's just out of my heart....

whiteshark: Even if it is hard for you to tell everything in english...you have to pay more attention on what you write...we need to know more informations to help you finding the way...i know sometimes it is hard, but it is even harder for us to estimate, where the problem MAY be..


Back to topic:

You also can contact STAX76 (http://forum.doom9.org/member.php?u=13377) (user here in Doom9) or his support Thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=102652), when you need Support on STAX-Rip...

[whiteshark999]

In case you don't want (or are not able) to provide information, work your way through the various Staxrip guides.

don't help sorry

[stax76]

You also can contact STAX76 (user here in Doom9) or his support Thread, when you need Support on STAX-Rip...

I'm mostly taking a time out from StaxRip and Doom9.

Helping with such poor info is difficult.

[whiteshark999]

i just whant to get it to look like post number 3 by Didée thanks.

[Ghitulescu]

Post an original sample that has this problem.

[whiteshark999]

Post an original sample that has this problem.


http://img37.imagefra.me/s3bg/whiteshark/j7_cfd_u9hfa.jpg (http://imagefra.me/910hu2x1)

[Didée]

Pictures are useless. You need to post a video sample.

1. Load the project in DGIndex

2. Choose & mark a problematic section with the "[" and "]" buttons

3. Choose "File" -> "Save Project and Demux video"

When this has finished, you have a *.m2v video of the marked section.

This you upload to a file hoster (like e.g. MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/)), and post the sharing link here.

[Ghitulescu]

I repeat myself, this blocking is not on the original DVD. Correcting a highly compressed video is quite stupid when the original does not show this artefact.
Rerip the DVD and select a higher bitrate, as you have already been told, three or four times.

[whiteshark999]

so i cant get rid of the problem then thanks i cant make it any biger than it is thanks.

[Didée]

so i cant get rid of the problem
Sure it is possible.

But ... since you tell us

NOTHING,

we can't tell you how to achieve it.

[whiteshark999]

will this work i cant seem to get it to work in vdub

http://compression.ru/video/deblocking/smartdeblocking_en.html

[Groucho2004]

so i cant get rid of the problem then thanks i cant make it any biger than it is thanks.

Which part of Didée's post #25 do you not understand? Have you tried to use an online translator like translate.google.com?

[Hagbard23]

whiteshark999: You CAN get rid of that problem.

If you are not able to do it, you are making something wrong - we all told you several times, what exactly you are making wrong, but it is like talking to a CocaCola-Automat. You don't understand us - and that exactly is the problem.

If you want to solve something, you have to work on your communication...

[whiteshark999]

Can some one help my get rid of the thank you

http://img37.imagefra.me/s3bg/whiteshark/j7_cfd_u9hfa.jpg (http://imagefra.me/910hu2x1)

[whiteshark999]

How would you get rid of this problem what software wood you use and what filters wood you use.

[Ghitulescu]

Anyone helping one with material under rule 6 may be as well sanctioned.

So you have to post the original sample, which does not have that artefact, and not recoded material.

[whiteshark999]

http://img40.imagefra.me/s3bj/whiteshark/12c3_831_u9hfa.jpg (http://i.imagefra.me/689hu8cg)

[zmaster]

whiteshark999,
Select a higher bitrate. This will solve the problem.