1080i/720p MPEG-2 to BD in Adobe Encore

[filetree]

I have 10 or 15 .ts caps I've made that are either 1080i or 720p.
I'm trying to get these into Adobe Encore, so that I can make a sweet menu and burn them to BluRay.
The only problem is that it wants to transcode the video.
I've demuxed audio and video, and it takes the AC3 audio just fine. But the video wants to transcode. I've tried as mpeg and m2ts.

Is there something I'm missing, or would it just be easier to encode to x264 BluRay spec? (and where is a good resource for that?)

The .ts' are between 12-17GB, so I encode encode larger and still fit on a BD25 fine.

Any help would be great.

[kieranrk]

Have you tried demuxing as a raw mpeg-2 file (m2v)? Even if encore lets it go through you may still have problems on some of the picky Blu-Ray players.

Also see sig for x264 Blu-Ray encoding.

[filetree]

What should I use to demux it to m2v? Will eac3to do it?

I've pretty much just been remuxing from .ts to .mpg in VideReDo, and .ts to .m2ts in txMuxer.
I have fast machines at work to encode on, so I don't mind encoding, would just save time if it played the mpeg2 straight up.

If it helps, it says Don't Transcode under DVD. So other than the filesize, it meets DVD spec at least.

I've also never encoded interlaced with x264, would it be easier to just use a nice and slow deinterlace filter and do 1080p or will players deinterlace it will enough?

[shon3i]

What is fps or your videos? BD specification have exact combinations of resolution/fps parameters, gop size, etc, and not every MPEG2 video is BD compatible.

[kieranrk]

eac3to should be able to do it. Otherwise try ffmpeg.

You can deinterlace but Blu-ray doesn't support 1080p60 so if you want fluidity you have to downscale to 720p60. If it's a tv cap it probably won't have 1080p60 worth of detail anyway.

It really depends on how well your tv deinterlaces.

[Ghitulescu]

I have 10 or 15 .ts caps I've made that are either 1080i or 720p.
I'm trying to get these into Adobe Encore, so that I can make a sweet menu and burn them to BluRay.

Have you tried multiAVCHD? I don't know Encore and thus I don't know whether the menus in Encore or what do you actually expect to obtain are better or worse, but even if, try it - so you'll know for sure whether your files are playable or not on a BD player (you'll get either the same error during the muxing, or your BD player would refuse the disk, use a BD-RE).

[filetree]

The caps are either:

A) 1080i 29.97fps MPEG-2
B) 720p 59.94fps MPEG-2
C) 720p 59.94 H.264 (not really a big concern right now cause it'll take a BD50)

I can post a sample of both if needed. They're football games.

It was just very weird to me that it meets DVD spec, but not BD.

The players are shown as playable in tsmuxer and stuff. I'll try and burn a disk in tsmuxer tomorrow just to make sure.
I guess i could cut a DVD5 sized sample and burn a BD5 with it?

[shon3i]

It was just very weird to me that it meets DVD spec, but not BD.Nothing unusual, HDDVD is that which inherited DVD, Blu-Ray not. Your streams probably not flagged correctly for example sar for 720p or 1080i or 1080p should be 16:9 or 1:1 and must be present in stream. There is other parameters like progressive sequence header etc, etc.

Post sample.

[filetree]

http://www.mediafire.com/file/xl9csq51lmlijq4/1080i.ts

http://www.mediafire.com/file/n879zsf0z7v4a4n/720p.ts

[shon3i]

1080i clip

video format : MPEG-2 Video
buffer size : 6 291 456 bits
declared bitrate : 90 000 000 bps <---- not BD or DVD compilant
declared frame rate : 29.97 fps
bitrate type : VBR
padding : 10 602 280 bits
average padding : 6 524.48 bits (195.54 kbps)

As you can see value of max rate is 90mbps, while BD allows only 40mbps for High profile. Even i don't know how is DVD compilant, while DVD allow only 9-10mbps

while 720p clip is compatible with BD. I successfully muxed and verified with scenarist-sony

[poisondeathray]

^you can demux to elementary stream (e.g. with tsmuxer) and use restream to rewrite the max rate and it will say "don't transcode" for blu-ray and mux properly according to encore, but I dont have bd verifier like shon3i to test

[filetree]

awesome. i guess I never checked the 720p ones.
i forgot my mux rate was 90, is that something VideoReDo can change once I cut the original cap?

[kieranrk]

awesome. i guess I never checked the 720p ones.
i forgot my mux rate was 90, is that something VideoReDo can change once I cut the original cap?

Not sure if VideoRedo will let you change it, but that number is just a value in the bitstream so it should be possible.

[shon3i]

@filetree try to patch stream with "restream" program as poisondeathray suggest ;)

[filetree]

I did, and it worked great!
Would just be one less thing to do if I could get it changed correctly in videoredo.

[filetree]

So the 720p didnt work :/
Got the menu and everything all made, loaded it in, and Untranscoded.
I'm not sure why the sample works and the whole thing doesnt.

[shon3i]

If you cut this sample with tsmuxer, you probably get modified stream that have newly inserted SPS/HRD data which is need for BD specification. Try to remux your whole stream with tsmuxer.

[filetree]

I cut the .ts in VideoReDo, it was more than 100mb for mediafire, so I split it in TSSplitter.

i ran the ts through tsmuxer, and just demuxed to mpv and .ac3. THe same exact thing (+restream) is what works for 1080i

[Ghitulescu]

Have you tried multiAVCHD? I don't know Encore and thus I don't know whether the menus in Encore or what do you actually expect to obtain are better or worse, but even if, try it - so you'll know for sure whether your files are playable or not on a BD player (you'll get either the same error during the muxing, or your BD player would refuse the disk, use a BD-RE).

I ran the ts through tsmuxer, and just demuxed to mpv and .ac3. THe same exact thing (+restream) is what works for 1080i

Should you have used my suggestion (multiAVCHD uses tsmuxer) you would have succeeded earlier :)

Besides, the incompatibilities between SAT HDTV and BD are quite rare, as most STBs and Blurays share the same family of HDTV chips, compatibility that is expected to raise in the future.

[poisondeathray]

Would just be one less thing to do if I could get it changed correctly in videoredo.

If the problem for the 1080i stream was caused by videoredo, not the capture application, then you can try specify different mux value. There is an option in the transport stream options in videoredo to specify a manual value