What to do about the > 4.3gb movies?

[Roveer]

I've been having better and better success working with smartripper & ifoedit to get my DVD's copied. On a few 7 giggers I was actually able to get the main movie with english AC3 soundtrack only and ran it through Ifoedit and it came out <4.3 so I was able to burn it right to DVD.

My problem is with Movies that end up being greater than 4.3 (example american beauty). After stripping all extras and unwanted audio/subs it's still 5.7gb.

I tried running it though cce and lowering the bitrate and then using dvdmaestro to bring the mpg and ac3 back together, but I'm not really that satisfied with the image quality. I might try another encode as I had a few hundred megabytes to spare on my first try. Also will check the q factor in bitrate viewer.

Any other ideas suggestions? I have a sony 860 dvd jukebox which has disk flip capability so I got a few 2 sided dvd-r's thinking I would write the movie on 2 sides. Its definetly a way to preserve the entire movie in DVD quality, but the Sony won't automatically flip the disk after the side, so It's not a perfect solution (would have to flip it from the remote).

Any other ideas for those > 4.3gb movies?

Roveer

[magnus73]

Did you follow this (http://www.robshot.de) CCE guide?

Quality should be good, man.

/mag

[Roveer]

Quality is good, but for some reason it's dark as compared to the original DVD footage. I'm using Luminance level 0-255. Other than that, it's about as good as I'm gonna get it. It's hard when comparing it to the original DVD VOB.

[magnus73]

So perhaps you can use the luminance filter in AviSynth when frameserving?

I have noticed the same effect. Seems to be about 5% darker.

/mag

[Commander XJL]

I've been encoding for over 3 years, I've used CCE and TMPGEnc, and I can tell you right now forget CCE, the quality is not as good as TMPGEnc

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by Commander XJL
I've been encoding for over 3 years, I've used CCE and TMPGEnc, and I can tell you right now forget CCE, the quality is not as good as TMPGEnc

So, that's your voice.
There are hundreds of voices telling it different.
I can just reply: 'Forget your settings !'
Please try the following settings before 'insulting' CCESP:

http://www.dvd-svcd-forum.de/cgi-bin/dvd_board/topic.cgi?forum=36&topic=20
Sorry it's german but there are lots of screenshots on the post.

Also read what the experts say about comparison:
http://www.dvd-svcd-forum.de/cgi-bin/dvd_board/topic.cgi?forum=36&topic=20
Sorry it's german again

And last but not least try Robshots method (maybe together with the optimized Matrixes from Angel and/or mb1.
http://www.robshot.com/

You will be surprised.

Peace, please !

mike

[Joseph2]

Originally posted by Roveer
Quality is good, but for some reason it's dark as compared to the original DVD footage. I'm using Luminance level 0-255. Other than that, it's about as good as I'm gonna get it. It's hard when comparing it to the original DVD VOB.

I have made several trials changing Luminance levels working with CCE and PAL movies, and I have found that 16-235 scale is the best option to match the original DVD colours. However, with this scale you will not get 'true black' watching your copies PC's (although you will not get it too with the original DVD).
To make the comparison I copy several frames from the original and from the copy to Adobe Photoshop using VirtualDub. The results of these analysis show that original DVDs also use 16-235 scale.

Joseph

[mikeathome]

Originally posted by Joseph2

I have made several trials changing Luminance levels working with CCE and PAL movies, and I have found that 16-235 scale is the best option to match the original DVD colours. However, with this scale you will not get 'true black' watching your copies PC's (although you will not get it too with the original DVD).
To make the comparison I copy several frames from the original and from the copy to Adobe Photoshop using VirtualDub. The results of these analysis show that original DVDs also use 16-235 scale.

Joseph

YES, you are right.

The reason why, is simple IT HAS TO BE by international standardization. Due to bandwidth reason for broadcast transmitting luminance levels have been set by this gremiums to 16-235. You hardly will find any broadcast company which accepts material with 0-255 luminance level (ok, they may convert it) but they definately reduce the material before they broadcast it. All the equipment they work with is set to accomplish these basis.

mike