View Full Version : EASILY copy DVD Movies. **Forget the Guide above!**
QT123
2nd February 2002, 17:54
I really don't understand why anybody would copy DVD's any other way than the following post... (unless it was quicker)
1. Use SmartRipper to rip movie as described in first part of this URL, http://www.vcdhelp.com/DVD2DVD-R%20bigger%20than%204500%20megs/
2. As long as the main movie itself is under 4.3gig, import it into SpuceUp and create your titlepage. (Ensure m2v & ac3 are identically named) BURN. (unless 16:9)
*ONLY GO ONTO STEP 3 IF YOUR MOVIE WAS 16:9*
3. Create a Title Set and open VTS_01_0.ifo
4. Click VTSI_MAT at top half of screen
5. Double Click VTSTT_Vobs (offset 00000200) on bottom half of screen
6. In dialog box select 16:9 and check automatic letterboxing
7. Save your changes as IFO and BUP (you will be asked)
8. Go back to SpruceUp and choose to burn from the titleset.
BURN
*IF YOUR MOVIE WAS OVER 4.3gig, RECOMPRESS WITH ReMPEG*
http://www.vcdhelp.com/DVD2DVD-R%20bigger%20than%204500%20megs/
This may sound long, it isn't. It's the quickest method I've ever seen!
Post any questions to this quick guide anytime.
Quentin.
kheops
2nd February 2002, 18:02
what about chapters ?
and i really prefer removing audio tracks other than french than reencoding all the video part before burning
doom9 guides and ifoedit is a much efficient solution in my opinion
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QT123
2nd February 2002, 18:14
Chapters, Yes. Oh well...
But as far as the Audio is concerned - I only rip the English AC3 6Ch ... that's it!
Roveer
2nd February 2002, 18:48
As long as the movie is under 4.3gb why don' you just rip it with smartripper and burn it back to the DVD-R? I've done this a couple of times and it works just fine. No need for re-authoring or anything.
I've also taken to stripping stuff from > 4.3movies and getting just the main movie and the AC3 english track. On a few movies It's brought the total under 4.3. Clean it up with IfoEdit and burn. Works great! I was worried about having to give up the 'extra' stuff till I sat and watched a few of the extras. Not missing a thing.
Roveer
magnus73
2nd February 2002, 18:56
Well,
I agree. Here's my deal: I ONLY want the movie.
1: Main feature
2: 1 Audio track (5.1 AC3)
3: 1 subtitle track (when it's needed, i.e Traffic)
4: No menus whatsoever.
I read a LOT of forums and websites in order to find a suite of programs that would let me do these simple things.
What I've found useful so far:
vStrip (the BEST ripper.)
Spruce DVD Maestro (necessary for audio sync and subtitles)
Cinemacraft Encoder (for transcoding those long movies)
ChapterExtractor
+ all the little utilities you need for frameserving, AC3 extraction and whatnot.
I'm currently looking into subtitles. Seems like all the methods available depend on OCR of the bitmaps in the subtitle stream. It would be cool of one could incorporate the ripped subtitle stream directly. No OCR errors that way.
I will probably write a guide one of these days. For my own benefit as well.
/mag
Roveer
2nd February 2002, 19:19
Now you've peaked my interest. I'm english speaking so I'm wondering when one would 'need' subtitles? I understand that many of the folks here are for other places in the world, but when would you need them versus not needing them?
mbbransc
2nd February 2002, 19:44
In his example, he said Traffic. In the Movie Traffic, there are several scenes where everyone is speaking Spanish. The movie have English subtitles so you can understand the conversation. Same would hold true with movies like GodFather...
QT123
2nd February 2002, 21:20
As long as the movie is under 4.3gb why don' you just rip it with smartripper and burn it back to the DVD-R? I've done this a couple of times and it works just fine. No need for re-authoring or anything.
That's I'm saying!! Why all this crap in these Guides! 90% of all DVD's (just the movie, no extras) are under 4.3gig SmartRipper->SpruceUp. Period. No more no less... Preserve AC3 and all.
If it's a little bigger... *Exclude the credits* or hell, use ReMPEG. You can't tell the difference!
and.. MAGNUS73 The movie is all you get with my method. I've never tried your way... All i want is the QUICKEST method with NO quality loss.
Quentin
magnus73
2nd February 2002, 22:54
QT123:
We're on the same track, bro. 'Cept the SpruceUp trick doesn't work on all standalones. SO I gave that one up. Also, you don't have the same control over the AC3 track and the subtitles.
Godfather, Traffic, + some others need subtitles. Most of them don't though. But when you need it you need it.
ReMpeg? Nope. I disagree. Quality just isn't there. CCE all the way, baby! Besides, for movies that are close to 180 minutes you would have to lower the bitrate to low with ReMpeg. Better to transcode overnight with CCE (which you would have to do anyway with ReMpeg) and get the full quality.
/mag
jdobbs
3rd February 2002, 21:30
As for the chapters part... It doesn't get much easier than the way you do it with SpruceUp. Just double click on the title object and click at the points where you want chapters (like maybe every 6 minutes)... That's another step to the process, but I'd hate to have to fast forward through an entire movie just to get close to a scene I want to start watching.
Just as a comment, I wish one of these more capable packages (Maestro, ReelDVD, Scenarist) could create menus and buttons as easily as SpruceUp -- I'm really getting frustrated with this concept of multi-layered picture files... I wasn't looking for a second career, just to make some DVDs. I've got to be missing something -- suggestions anyone?
QT123
4th February 2002, 02:37
Can you send a link that describes your method in detail?
Quentin
magnus73
4th February 2002, 04:24
QT123:
Sorry no link. :(
As I said I will probably write a guide one of these days. Need to perfect the whole thing first...
There's always the CCE guide of course: http://www.robshot.com
Most of what I've learned is just gleaned from forums. There's a bunch of useful threads in here for starters.
mikeathome knows a lot. I would consider him the expert.
/mag
spr1nt
26th February 2002, 10:57
Better to transcode overnight with CCE (which you would have to do anyway with ReMpeg) and get the full quality.
magnus73 or anyone else for that matter, can you explain to a newbie how to go about doing this transcode?
viper3344
26th February 2002, 20:15
What if the movie is greater then 4.7gb? Most movies comming out are because of a higher bit-rate.(Pearl Harbor, Glatiator, saving private ryan, etc.) Your guide is old news. Very old news.
viper3344
26th February 2002, 20:24
Also! Re-mpeg takes about 16 hours to do on a 2.2Ghz! It's way to long. Ifo edit is fast (about 15 min) and even if it is still over 4.7gb (Private ryan) use a double sided dvdr for 3 bucks! Also where are you getting this 90% of all dvd movie files are under 4.7 gb. I have yet to see more then three (good) new movies that the movie files are under 4.7gb. Try using the (dvd 1:1) posting thread for an easy ass way and NO Rempeg nomatter what. And if the movie is under 4.7gb rip it with the menu ifo and vobs file with dvd decrypter and make an image. Then burn the image. Quick. Nuff said.
Dystaxia
26th February 2002, 21:38
16 hours on a 2.2Ghz? You are doing something wrong then. I can do a 2.5hour movie in 9 hours on a 1.5Ghz. I know people on here are going faster than that!
viper3344
26th February 2002, 23:49
Thats still 9 hours!!!! I would rather buy the dvd by then. I would rather do a movie (including burning) in 1 hour using ifoedit then rempeg the whole damn thing and waiting 9 hours for it to finish. Then, go through the trouble of authoring it and setting it up and not having a garuntee that it will work in a settop dvd player! My method takes about 20min (under 4.7gb) and 1 hour (over 4.7gb) to do and garuntees readability in ANY settop dvd player! Why waist even 2 hours! Theres no piont. And no garuntee. just a waist of 9 hours.
thetered
28th February 2002, 02:42
blah blah blah, this quick guide isnt anything new, if all you want is the movie then ya its fine, but the challenge (for who care to go farther) is to try to get the menus and all the extras, or at least as many as they can fit
I've been working on dvd's that have full menues and full extras, just be downsampling the extras dramatically, but i dont think your idea is anything new anyways.
The_Flash
28th February 2002, 07:16
Originally posted by jdobbs
...I wish one of these more capable packages (Maestro, ReelDVD, Scenarist) could create menus and buttons as easily as SpruceUp
I couldn't agree more.
ccsint
23rd March 2003, 17:59
Except in the time it takes you to REMPEG one movie with no extras, I'll have already mastered the entire disc at perfect quality.
Choose your poison.
waldok
24th March 2003, 14:36
Why all this crap in these Guides!
The valuable information you can find in the guides made available in Doom9 can hardly be called "crap". I find it a bit insulting to people who spent hours writing these just to help others.
Are you sure you really understood what a "backup" is ? I mean with all extras, menus and so on ? I think everybody around here perfectly knows how to "copy" the movie if it simply fits under 4.35 GB. No need to be a "grand guru" for this.
As for longer movies, suggesting ReMpeg seems to indicate you don't care that much about picture quality in the end. What about using DVD2one or such, then ? Even simpler...and much faster.
No offense intended, but I don't really see your point here. Authoring is not copying. It's about recreating DVD structures, sometimes complex ones, partly for the fun of understanding how it works.
Simpmle copy is easily done with one-click programs.
Waldok:cool:
mpucoder
24th March 2003, 15:17
What I don't understand is why ccsint dug up this thread, which had been dormant for 13 months, just to add a fairly meaningless comment.
ccsint
24th March 2003, 17:39
Oops got the year wrong.
But thanks for the flame, you look pretty professional, Mr. Moderator. And it was off of your fantastic search engine, FYI.
waldok
25th March 2003, 13:25
CCsint,
You are good at making yourself new friends it seems :p
Irony will kill you...
Waldok:cool:
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