burning nero 5.5.7.2

[jonnie]

What's the top speed anyone has managed with nero ?
I read that the recomended speed is x4 has anyone successfully burned at higher

[xrv1138]

i have burnt at only x24 speed with nero all the time
no failures
and all play on my standalone

just be aware that the success of any burn and play depends on many individual factors for you:
type of burner
type of disk media
characteristics of your standalone, etc

slower burns are safer
but its best just to try and find out for yourself
try using cd-rw if your standalone hacks them ok

[SxLee]

Disk media i think is really important...some media refuses to work with my standalone dvd player.

Also, the speed at which u burn it is also important. When burning at 16x speed...sometime SVCD skips during play back on my dvd player and other time it works perfectly. I find burning at 12x solve the skiping problem.

[da franksta]

Always burn 16x. Never problems.

Plextor 16/10/40a on Lenco Silverblue Pro CD-R 80 min

[dvd2svcd]

To everybody:

Please don't recommend anything faster than 4x, because I am the one that gets blamed if the burn process doesn't work. Ofcourse, I am happy for the people where 16x or 24x works perfectly, however that is not always the case. And guess how gets tons of mails regarding this problem. So, do not recommend anything above 4x please.

[The Incredible One]

I agree with DVD2SVCD. I've burned my cd's at 4 times or above and my movies got to freeze in the standalone. Now I only burn at 1x and no more problems with playback.

But off course you have to find out for yourself

[Clixo]

1x
2x
4x
8x
12x
16x
24x
32x

and at last 40 x with my new plextor just delivered ...

all these have been tested and the result in the player is ok . the only matter here is the media that must be god and finaly if you are usin svcd or cvd subtitles i also dont recomend going faster than 4x cause then when you are playing it you might get some parts without subtitles.

hope it helps

[nfl2k2]

yeah don't burn past 4x unless you know it works fine. I burned home alone 2 last night a 12x and towards the end of the cd the picture was breaking up. then I burned at 8x with the same media (memorex black) and the picture was fine. so to be on the safe side, burn at 4x.

[Bob01605]

In two years, using 3 different burners and many types of media - I think the BURNER and its compatibility with your system (your motherboard, operating system, type of hard drive, properly set DMA etc. ) is MORE important than the type of media. I now have an AOpen 24 X burner - It has burned every type of media I have thrown at it at 24 X - I have gotten ONE coaster in over 100 burns and that was when I tried an "on the fly" copy at 24 X from my DVD rom to the Cd burner.
I could not do this with my other two burners and my old computer. I guess everyone has different setups and some work well for them and others have trouble when they try to burn at their burners maximum burn speed. What bothers me ( and this is not meant to be a flame to others ) are people who RECOMMEND to others to "burn them no higher than 8 X" or "cook em slow" for better quality. Everyone should probably do some test burns with THEIR burner at THEIR burners HIGHEST speed and then watch the WHOLE disk. If you don't get macroblocks, dropouts, skips etc., you can probably burn at this speed all the time. If not, drop your speed one increment and burn the SAME bin/cue to a different blank disk and see if it gives better results. Keep at it this way ( drop the burn speed another increment )until you find the optimum burn speed for your system.

Bob

[gerti67]

@Bob01605:

All that you said may be apply to your system and you're configuration and so on and i really believe you. But it is a matter of fact that for a good amount of combinations (burners and media and ...) this will not work and by suggesting only to burn at 4x that will sure eliminate a couple of questions (i have macroblocks, ...) from newbies. Those who are more advanced will sure try and find out for their own at what speed it is safe for them tu burn SVCDs.

And one last point to add, what will you do if you find out that your new DVD player (you had to buy because your old one broke) will not play your hundreds of backups anymore because you burned them to fast?

But i sure hope that will never happen to you.

Greetings,
gerti67

[Bob01605]

gerti67,

I have played these SVCD disks burned at 24 X on two computers - one at work and one at home with both WinDVD and POWERDvd. They have been played on a Pioneer 525 and TWO Apex AD-1500'S. I have an Apex downstairs and one at work. I have had 3 or 4 other people borrow my disks and play them on their DVD players at home - one was a GE 1101P - I don't know the others... NO one has mentioned to me anything about a skip, macroblock, dropout etc. on ANY of these disks.

Bob

[gerti67]

Hi Bob01605,

then you are sure a very lucky guy because a close friend has a lot of problems when burning higher than 8x with his Ricoh and if i test his SVCDs then i also get glitches on my DVD player and that disappears by burning only at 4x.

And i just want to state that it was not my aim to offend you, i just wanted to explain why they all recommend to only burn at 4x.

So just stay with your settings as they seem to work for you and don't get bothered when others suggest "to burn them slow" it really solves some issues for a few.

Greetings,
gerti67

[Wh00pS]

Also most people who burn at 24x etc probably dont watch every disk the WHOLE way through,I tend to find that if i'm going to get macroblocks then it will be at the end of the disk.By this time most people have already deleted the svcd from their harddrive.

[Bob01605]

"Also most people who burn at 24x etc probably dont watch every disk the WHOLE way through,I tend to find that if i'm going to get macroblocks then it will be at the end of the disk.By this time most people have already deleted the svcd from their harddrive"
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Your oversimplification and general impression of what I do is probably based on what you do. If you cannot believe that SVCD's may be burned at 24X without problems then there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise. I am not saying that everyone CAN or SHOULD do it. I AM saying that it works for me with my system and that my disks ALSO play on other systems with no problems. I just finished Vertical Limit ( about 2 hrs and 6 minutes long - It was a 4 pass VBR - 16 X 9 encode with 224 sound. The video bitrate was low at 1518. I watched both disks to the END - no skips, macroblocks etc.

Bob

[markrb]

Bob01605 I completely understand where you are coming from, but what the others are trying to point out is that a consensus has to be made for what to tell the Newbies. In this case we must assume the worst at all times. The more we mix our signals the more confusing and messed up the information becomes.

Maybe it is best said like this:
Burning at 4X MAX is the recomended method. Any higher and you MAY have problems. If you have burned faster and have any problems please try again at a slower speed. If you are new to DVD2SVCD always burn SVCD's at 4X(not data or audio, different animal) until you are certain that you have no problems with the SVCD's. After which time trying a higher speed MIGHT work for you, but you have been warned that burning at any higher then 4X can and does cause problems for many people.

Mark

[Wh00pS]

Your oversimplification and general impression of what I do is probably based on what you do. If you cannot believe that SVCD's may be burned at 24X without problems then there is nothing I can do to convince you otherwise.

My post wasnt aimed at you personally, it was just an opinion.I burn All my svcd's at 4x and DO watch them all the way through.
I know you can burn at 24x and have a perfect burn as i have tried it and everything was fine.It's just a case of better being safe than sorry,An extra 16 minutes burning each disk isnt going to kill me when i've just spent 10 hours encoding a movie.
How many posts have you read about someone who is new to DVD2SVCD moaning about macroblocks and it has turned out to be the speed of their burn,probably quite a few.
This subject should be made into a sticky as a lot of newbies dont read the FAQ until after they have made a mistake and maybe a sticky may just catch their eye.

[xrv1138]

i think newbies should read the faq first at all costs :D
otherwise you would end up with a whole bunch of sticky threads saying exactly what is in the Q + A...

[DDogg]

markrb, why don't you add that to the Q&A if you have not already done so.

Maybe it is best said like this:
Burning at 4X MAX is the recomended method. Any higher and you MAY have problems. If you have burned faster and have any problems please try again at a slower speed. If you are new to DVD2SVCD always burn SVCD's at 4X(not data or audio, different animal) until you are certain that you have no problems with the SVCD's. After which time trying a higher speed MIGHT work for you, but you have been warned that burning at any higher then 4X can and does cause problems for many people.