BD-R LTH compatibility by model and firmware

[A.Fenderson]

Since Verbatim hasn't bothered to update their own LTH compatibility chart (http://www.verbatim.com/userfiles/file/BDR_LTHCompatibility.pdf) * (note: dead link, see footnote) since it was first released, and I've not been shown any other even semi-official listing of compatible devices, I think it might be helpful if we can pool our knowledge here on LTH-compatible/incompatible devices.

Unfortunately, in looking through other generally reliable sites such as myce.com, I've noticed contradictions even regarding the same device with identical firmware revisions. These contradictions, combined with a lack of reliable or detailed information from device manufacturers means that at best this will still be a best-guess scenario. The more information I get from other forum posters here, though, the more accurate we can make this.

Where possible, I'll use information from the drive manufacturers to ensure reliability. BD-R LTW was included in BD-R version 1.2, so where LTH compatibility isn't explicitly stated, version 1.2 compliance will be assumed to mean LTH read ability as a minimum--products marked as adhering merely to previous BD-R versions such as 1.0 will be marked as incompatible.

The below charts use the Verbatim chart linked above as a starting point, so anything marked as compatible/incompatible without accompanying user reports or data from the device manufacturer is based on testing data provided by Verbatim.

* Note: Verbatim has now seemingly pulled that compatibility chart completely from their website (http://www.verbatim.com/subcat/optical-media/blu-ray/lth/), in favor of this terse statement:
"Verbatim’s BD-R LTH complies with Blu-ray® Standard version 1.2. Our BD-R LTH is supported by all current Blu-ray® burners and most older models with firmware update. Also, Verbatim BD-R LTH is supported by most Blu-ray® players including Sony’s PS3™."
As mentioned below by Mariner, there are two charts on JVC's website (http://jvc-media.eu/bd/bd-r_lth/lth_compatibility.html)giving write-compatibility for their 4x LTH media (some drives support 4x burning, others 2x only), and general LTH reading ability--none of that info has been integrated into the below charts as of now.

BLU-RAY WRITERS:
_________ _______________ _____________ ______WRITE______ USER REPORT: _USER REPORT:_ ______________MANUFACTURER_____________
__BRAND__ _____MODEL_____ __FIRMWARE___ ______LTH 2X_____ _COMPATIBLE_ NOT COMPATIBLE ______________INFORMATION:_____________
_________ _______________ _____________ _________________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Buffalo__ BRHC-6316U2____ XJ04_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Buffalo__ BR-H1016SU2 ___ (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______
Buffalo__ BR-H1016FBS-BK (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______
Digistor_ DIG-78102______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ 1_____________ (none found)___________________________
I-O Data_ BRD-UH8________ (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______
I-O Data_ BRD-SH8B_______ (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______
LaCie____ 301856U________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BE06LU10_______ YE05_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH08LS20_______ EL00_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH08LS20_______ EL02-04______ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH08NS20_______ EL00_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH08NS20_______ EL02-04______ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH10LS30_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BH10NS30_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ GBW-H10N_______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ GGW-H20L_______ YL04_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ GGW-H20L_______ YL05_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ GGW-H20N_______ XL04_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ WH08LS20_______ (non-initial) yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ WH10LS30K______ (unknown)____ ???______________ 1___________ 1_____________ compatible since initial firmware______
Lite-On__ DH-4B1S________ 7P5B_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic SW-5582________ BBF4_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic SW-5582 C______ BDB2_________ no_______________ ____________ 1_____________ _______________________________________
Panasonic SW-5583________ 1.02_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic SW-5584________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic UJ-210_________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic UJ-215_________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic UJ-220_________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic UJ-225_________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-101A_______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-202________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-203________ 1.11_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible_____________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-205________ 1.08_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ compatible_____________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-S03________ 1.11_________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ compatible_____________________________
Pioneer__ BDR-S05________ 1.08_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible_____________________________
Plextor__ PX-B310SA______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Plextor__ PX-B940SA______ (unknown)____ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ (none found)___________________________
Sony_____ BWU-300S_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sony_____ BWU100A________ 1.0F_________ write,no/read,yes ____________ ______________ read-only as of 1.0F___________________


BD-ROM DRIVES:

_________ _______________ _____________ _______READ______ USER REPORT: _USER REPORT:_ ______________MANUFACTURER_____________
__BRAND__ _____MODEL_____ __FIRMWARE___ ______LTH 2X_____ _COMPATIBLE_ NOT COMPATIBLE ______________INFORMATION:_____________
_________ _______________ _____________ _________________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ GGC-H20L_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Lite-On__ IHES206________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Lite-On__ IHES208________ (unknown)____ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ compatible_____________________________
Lite-On__ IHOS104________ WL0B_________ no_______________ ____________ 1_____________ (none found: no firmware downloads)___
Plextor__ PX-B310SA______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Samsung__ SH-B083L_______ SB00_________ ???______________ 1___________ 1_____________ _______________________________________
Samsung__ SH-B083L_______ (initial)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ not w/ initial firmware: BD-R 1.0 only
Samsung__ SH-B083L_______ SB01_________ ???______________ ____________ ______________ new firmware available, no changelog___
Sony_____ BDUX10S________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________



STANDALONE PLAYERS:

_________ _______________ _____________ _______READ______ USER REPORT: _USER REPORT:_ ______________MANUFACTURER_____________
__BRAND__ _____MODEL_____ __FIRMWARE___ ______LTH 2X_____ _COMPATIBLE_ NOT COMPATIBLE ______________INFORMATION:_____________
_________ _______________ _____________ _________________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BD370__________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
LG_______ BD390__________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Magnavox_ NB530MGX_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Oppo_____ BDP-80_________ BDP80-14-0522 no_______________ ____________ 1_____________ working on a firmware update___________
Oppo_____ BDP-83 (&SE)___ BDP83-50-0424 no_______________ ____________ 1_____________ working on a firmware update___________
Panasonic DMP-BD35K______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic DMP-BD60_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Panasonic DMP-BV100______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Philips__ BDP7200/F7_____ 1.113________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ PRODUCT FAQ IMPLIES NO BD-R/RE SUPPORT.
Pioneer__ BDP-120________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDP-320________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDP-LX70_______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDP-LX71_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDP-LX80_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Pioneer__ BDP-LX91_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Samsung__ BD-P1500_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Samsung__ BD-P1600_______ 2.08_________ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Samsung__ BD-P1600_______ (initial)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sharp____ BD-HP1_________ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sharp____ BD-HP21________ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sony_____ BDP-S350_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sony_____ BDP-S360_______ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ per manual page 60, supports LTH_______
Sony_____ BDP-S500ES_____ (unknown)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sony_____ Playstation 3__ Ver 2.20_____ yes______________ 2___________ ______________ _______________________________________
Sylvania_ NB500SL9_______ (unknown)____ no_______________ ____________ ______________ no_mfg_info,_Verbatim_reported_no-go___
Sylvania_ NB500SL9_______ 1.109________ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________
Vizio____ VBR220_________ (unknown)____ yes______________ 1___________ ______________ _______________________________________

[A.Fenderson]

Charts can now be searched--sorry they're somewhat less readable as a result.

If anyone has any LTH compatibility information for these or other devices, please PM or post here.

Thanks!

[Ghitulescu]

BLU-RAY WRITERS:
_________ _______________ _____________ ______WRITE______ USER REPORT: _USER REPORT:_ ______________MANUFACTURER_____________
__BRAND__ _____MODEL_____ __FIRMWARE___ ______LTH 2X_____ _COMPATIBLE_ NOT COMPATIBLE ______________INFORMATION:_____________
_________ _______________ _____________ _________________ ____________ ______________ _______________________________________
I-O Data_ BRD-UH8________ (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______
I-O Data_ BRD-SH8B_______ (initial)____ yes______________ ____________ ______________ compatible since initial firmware______





IODATA BDR-SH8B = LG BH08NS20
IODATA BDR-UH8B = LG BH08NS20
:rolleyes:

[A.Fenderson]

Thanks for your post.

Actually, "BRD" is correct according to the product page on IOData's website. (http://www.iodata.jp/product/storage/blu-ray/brd-h8/) In fact, they spell out the full naming convention on that page:

Blu-ray Disc Drive - USB 2.0 Hitachi LG 8
Blu-ray Disc Drive - Serial ATA Hitachi LG 8 BLACK

Also, I don't think you meant to equate both IOData drives to the exact same LG model, but even so, I'm holding off on collapsing/collating/equating entries for clone drives for now, as I've seen some conflicting information regarding which drives are clones of which and I don't have any official sources to fall back on. I may do more research on this and collate the data for the clones, but still leave all models listed separately (data duplicated) for searching purposes.

[Giljorak]

I have a Sylvania NB500SL9 with 1.109 firmware that plays BD-R LTH discs just fine.

[A.Fenderson]

Added, thank you for the information. The "no" was based on Verbatim's original compatibility chart, which didn't list firmware version for most models and is now badly outdated anyway, but I'll retain their "no" entry on a separate line with "unknown" firmware since the initial-release firmware likely didn't have LTH compatibility.

[laserfan]

FWIW I was browsing the Owner Manuals of a couple of Sony BD set-top players today, and I notice that the BDP-S360 (which is already on your list as Compatible) has LTH listed on page 60, towards the end in a section called Playable Discs. Here's what it says:

• Note about BD-REs/BD-Rs
This player supports Ver. 2.1 BD-RE and
Ver. 1.1, 1.2 and 1.3 BD-R including organic
pigment type BD-R (LTH type).

I point this out because if a member has a question about a Sony settop player, they can download the Owner Manual and if this note appears, it's likely the player will play LTH discs. The BDP-S360 is from 2009 btw.

[A.Fenderson]

Thanks, I added a note about this in the "Manufacturer Information" column.

According to this article on cdrinfo.com (http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/News/Details.aspx?NewsId=21422), LTH was added to the BD-R spec as of version 1.2, so any BD-R v1.2-compliant device should read these discs as a minimum, but some burners evidently can read but not write these at certain firmwares.

[treeboy]

Ok, well I got my Verbatim 25GB BD-R LTH disc and successfully burned a 23GB BD-Rebuilder Full Backup movie (Alice In Wonderland) using ImgBurn with my LG GGW-H20L after updating to the latest firmware YL05, thanks to Cynthia at the ImgBurn forum.:thanks:

I then played said movie on my Phillips BDP7200/F7 firmware v.1.113 and all went well so you can add these two devices to the list as "good-to-go".

[A.Fenderson]

Thanks, I added both entries with a caveat on the Philips player as per an entry in its product FAQ. (http://www.p4c.philips.com/cgi-bin/dcbint/faqview.pl?ctn=BDP7200%2FF7&dct=QAC&new_tmpl=1&refdisplay=AVS_BDP_018&refnr=0070060&scy=US&slg=AEN)

[mariner]

Found this:

JVC Recording Media BD-R LTH Type Write or Read Compatibility
(http://jvc-media.eu/bd/bd-r_lth/lth_compatibility.html)