frozen frames & stuttering audio ?

[anarco]

Hello,

i just tried DVD2VCD, very nice frontend
however the sVCD created (in PAL) had stuttering sound and
some frozen frames and the chapters didn´t work (though for the chapters I´m not sure if the standalone is just too stupid) but
the stuttering was also on PC playback so I assume it is in the mpeg

anyone with an idea which part of the rip caused that ?
btw, the movie contains two audio parts and I pushed the
audiobitrate to the sVCD limit of 384 kbit
(the standalone is a pioneer DV 444... fyi)

someone at vcdhelp mentioned a comparable problem with the player
just that the problem didn´t appear on his pc...

I may try another rip of that movie with smartripper/tmpeg without chapters and one audio as I usually did and will report what happened.

But maybe someone already knows what was wrong?

anarco

[chainsaw135]

I think your in the wrong section we have a "newbie section" why dont you try posting the newbie question in there.

[anarco]

cause I don´t need a nub answer
what qualifies this as newbie question ?
cause it wa smy first post here ?
if it is a newbie question then I bet the
solution to the problem is quite clear and easy ...
which is afaik not - otherwise I wouldn´t ask :)

however if this is just to flame then I´m at
the wrong place

anarco

[chainsaw135]

I would not call what I said a "flame" more of a nice way of directing you in the right part of this forum.

If your feelings get hurt so easy then you need help and thats not being mean just being honest.

THe first thing that makes it a newbie question is the lack of sense and the lack of information needed 2 help you in this problem. I could list more things but again i'm not trying 2 "FLAME U"

[anarco]

yeah I need help, I skinned my neighbour this morning just because he has stolen my doormat hehe ;)

Uhm, I think this is getting o.t.
I´m just going to try some different encoders and see what happens.

anarco

[Mozart]

good answer chainsaw. If you don't provide any information about CCE settings, speed of burning, software burner (fireburner?) etc, you are a newbie which doesn't have any clue about your issue. As you know, we cannot read minds (yet).

thread moved.

[The Incredible One]

Hello,

Maybe you could try 1 Audio stream and permanent subtitles. I had this problem also sometime with different audiostreams. But who doesn't try doesn't win.:D :D :D

See for yourself.

Bye

[Slick]

@anarco if you are still around.

I would advise you to do your first movie with the default settings, then work from there.

there are a lot of posts in both the newbies forum & advanced that will help you tweak the settings. but only once you have elliminated the possibility of faulty equipment cdr's etc. hence the default settings advice.


hope this helps.


p.s.

there will always be someone who gets up your nose by not answering in the manner you would like.
but if you followed the postings for a while you will find that "almost" all the people who respond are & can be extremely helpful.
repeated questions on the same subjects though can irritate ;)

[anarco]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mozart
good answer chainsaw. If you don't provide any information about CCE settings, speed of burning, software burner (fireburner?) etc,
you are a newbie which doesn't have any clue about your issue. As you know, we cannot read minds (yet).


as I mentioned on PC play it had the same problems, so it is obviously not a matter of the speed of burning, burning software etc...

okay, I forgot to mention that I played the mpeg directly not the burned sVCD, which would be silly to check if the encoding worked
out well

@slick:
You are right, its best to start with the defaults.
I did that except for the audio (the changes I mentioned).

However I don´t want to step some -pro´s- on their feet to receive a kindergarten effect. I feel more comfy finding it out on myself than getting barked at in the first place ;)

thx for moving the thread

nothing personal
anarco

[Slick]

If you meant me for moving your thread. I didnt!
I think you will find it was an "administrator"

for what it's worth stick with the DVD2Svcd it is a cracking program suite.
and by the way, IMHO audio sounds just fine at 224 ;)

good luck.

[anarco]

no that was mozart I know... that was just to mention...

yeah 224 is quite okay... 384 is better *gg*

I´ll do a tmpgenc encode first and wait for the result - this worked fine for me so far it is just a bit slow and not very comfy.

the mp2´s were okay so there is not much left which could have caused the stuttering

later

anarco

[da franksta]

In spite of official SVCD limits, your problem sure sounds like you have your bitrate set too high. Especially with double audio you easily exceed the bitrate limit of 2723 kb/sec.
Never mind what the standard says, if your Pioneer doesn't run your bitrate right, it's too high.

[Kedirekin]

Umm... he has mentioned several times that the stuttering manifests on his PC playing from the hard drive. That rules out that its a stand-alone problem with the bitrate.

To be honest, this one has me stumped. Could you describe the stuttering. It isn't a multi-angle problem by any chance?

[anarco]

@da franksta

I doubt the bitrate was too high, though I don´t remember what DVD2SVCD set...however it was sized to 2 CD´s
and with a 84 minute movie the average rate rate won´t be much higher than 21663kbit/s and max 2336kbit/s and the doubleaudio was already calculated in (?) for 2 discs so the videorate was even lower

it may have been above 2600 - okay this may have caused a bit additional stuttering on the standalone but shouldn´t harm a pc with a geforce 3 and and athlon 1800xp

however some people say the audio bitrate for sVCD has to be 224kbit or less, though fact is this is only for NTSC and not for PAL which I tried

I´m already trying again with lower rates...we´ll see what the result will be :)

anarco

[anarco]

describing the stuttering

hmm, its like there are gaps in the audio of some milliseconds

I don´t know, I wouldn´t describe it as the usual too-high-bitrate
freezing and frame skipping. It´s more like robotizing the audio.

anarco

[anarco]

it was the audio bitrate...
everything works fine now with 224kbit audios

anarco

[markrb]

What version of DVD2SVCD are you using?
What version of BeSweet if you are using a 1.06 version of DVD2SVCD?
There is a bug in BeSweet and you should be using version 1.0. DVD2SVCD 1.06.1 came with version .95 of BeSweet.
I have had close to the same problem and found that if I lowered the
bitrate (audio + video) to 2749 or less it went away.

You may want to get an older build of DVD2SVCD to try. Get 1.05 the last build and try that. This is Pre-BeSweet and may solve your audio problem.

Mark

Was replying before it was resolved.

[anarco]

I used the 1.06 package, well for the next rip I´ll test it with another besweet version

thx

anarco