Getting crazy with Ponyo PAL

[tormento]

I have tried any filter, plugin or script in this forum without decent results. Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?dhizjgmdtdy) is attached a little piece from original, untouched DVD.

Could you please get a look and give me some hints or filter chain?

[hydra3333]

your objective ? what you yuo seek as a result ?

[tormento]

I was trying to get the original video, if you single step the frames, it seems that they are original, blendend, original, blendend... BUT sometimes the order goes to hell. No idea on how to solve that.

[nm]

I have tried any filter, plugin or script in this forum without decent results. Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?dhizjgmdtdy) is attached a little piece from original, untouched DVD.
Srestore works on your sample. Did you try it too?

[tormento]

Yes, I tried but can't find a good parameter choice to remove ghosting. Some hints? Perhaps I have chosen a sample with few blending artifacts, tomorrow in the morning (CET+1) or tonight I'll try to upload a better sample.

[nm]

Yes, I tried but can't find a good parameter choice to remove ghosting. Some hints?
I got two frames with visible ghost lines left over, but they are hard to see during normal playback. Script:
yadifmod(mode=1,edeint=nnedi2(field=-2))
srestore()

I don't think you'll be able to get much better results with other existing filters.

[tormento]

Here (http://rapidshare.com/files/355622937/Ponyo_02.VOB)it is another clip. Please look at the green bucket after a few seconds.

[tormento]

I got two frames with visible ghost lines left over, but they are hard to see during normal playback. Script:
yadifmod(mode=1,edeint=nnedi2(field=-2))
srestore()

I don't think you'll be able to get much better results with other existing filters.

Your script crashes even VirtualDub. Can't understand why :confused:

[nm]

Here (http://www.mediafire.com/?dhizjgmdtdy)it is another clip. Please look at the green bucket after a few seconds.
That's the same address and clip that you posted previously.

Your script crashes even VirtualDub. Can't understand why
My example was only the Srestore-specific part, so I assume you added a video source (like mpeg2source or FFVideoSource), imported Srestore.avsi and loaded the plugins? Do you get any error messages?

[tormento]

That's the same address and clip that you posted previously.
Mediafire seems to have some problems right now. I have uploaded to Rapidshare and corrected the link in the previous post.
My example was only the Srestore-specific part
I think the problem it is hidden in the yadif part. When loading the script in VirtualDub to test the image quality, it simply crashes.

[nm]

Mediafire seems to have some problems right now. I have uploaded to Rapidshare and corrected the link in the previous post.

I think the problem it is hidden in the yadif part. When loading the script in VirtualDub to test the image quality, it simply crashes.

Well, what happens if you use x264 or some other encoder instead of VirtualDub? Or try plain bob, if you think that there's a problem with yadifmod or nnedi2:
bob(0,0.5)
srestore()


Here it is another clip. Please look at the green bucket after a few seconds.

Again, I only got two frames with clearly visible blended areas in that sample video, one with the bucket. That's pretty decent considering the source.

SRestored samples:
http://www.sendspace.com/file/6ovd32
http://www.sendspace.com/file/cfmxk3

[tormento]

If it is only a deinterlace problem, I can use the DGDecNV that I find very effective. However it is a plain deinterlace engine, without telecide or other fps conversion features. Do you think that srestore could do the miracle as only filter?

[nm]

If it is only a deinterlace problem, I can use the DGDecNV that I find very effective. However it is a plain deinterlace engine, without telecide or other fps conversion features. Do you think that srestore could do the miracle as only filter?
Yes, you should only use a bobber with it. Other framerate conversions will prevent Srestore from doing its job.

[tormento]

I have tried hardware deinterlace and srestore. The output is amost half the lenght in time (48m20s@25fps)of the original (1h40m@25fps)... Why? How should I correct this behaviour?

[nm]

I have tried hardware deinterlace and srestore. The output is amost half the lenght in time (48m20s@25fps)...
Did you set DGDecNV to double-rate mode (bob, 25i to 50p)? Also make sure that Srestore outputs 24000/1001 fps video. Otherwise something is wrong.

[tormento]

Did you set DGDecNV to double-rate mode (bob, 25i to 50p)? Also make sure that Srestore outputs 24000/1001 fps video. Otherwise something is wrong.

Just tried to set DGDecNV to 50p and encode is running with srestore (no parameters). I think I should read more.

[tormento]

Well, I think I have a result now. Don't know if it could be better but it is acceptable.

DGDecNV created the bobbed 50p and srestore() turned to 23.976 but with a 25fps speed (and it turned to be shorter indeed).

With matroska I set video fps to 24/1.001 thus not having to resample audio and work on subs.

Any idea for srestore parameters to get a better result? I see some ghosted frame sometimes..

[Motenai Yoda]

the italian dvd of "Ponyo sulla scogliera" is bad-converted from ntsc telecided, I think if u use the r2j dvd with a simple
tfm(pp=0)+tdecimate(mode=1) or set film on DGIndex, can use a better source.

[tormento]

the italian dvd of "Ponyo sulla scogliera" is bad-converted from ntsc telecided, I think if u use the r2j dvd with a simple
tfm(pp=0)+tdecimate(mode=1) or set film on DGIndex, can use a better source.

It is the italian source indeed. Is it possible to modify the tfm to get use of hw DGNVDec deinterlace? Just to speed things up a bit.

Edit: tried your idea, too much ghost frames.

[Dogway]

the italian dvd of "Ponyo sulla scogliera" is bad-converted from ntsc telecided, I think if u use the r2j dvd with a simple
tfm(pp=0)+tdecimate(mode=1) or set film on DGIndex, can use a better source.

Thats why I always buy Japanese DVD's (in case of Anime).
By the way, is force film an alternative to an avisynth IVTC?

[Motenai Yoda]

By the way, is force film an alternative to an avisynth IVTC?
usually cinematic movie are full 24p so, depending on the encoding that was used, one or the other or together works.
Force film works about pulldown flag of the frame (or gop I don't know) so should returns original frames, ivtc instead do a reconstruction of frames.
Thats why I always buy Japanese DVD's (in case of Anime).
imho some Italians DVDs are better of their Japanese counterpart eg NGE Platinum Edition published by Dynit

[tormento]

Solved with the following:LoadPlugin("D:\eseguibili\media\dgdecnv\DGMultiDecodeNV.dll")
DGMultiSource("E:\in\Ponyo_ntsc\Ponyo_ntsc.dgi", deinterlace=2)
Crop(6,12,-10,-16)
srestore()
fft3dGPU(plane=4, precision=2, sigma=1.25)
hqd()
edgecleaner()