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EyeLykeB0ngs
29th January 2002, 03:06
OK, here goes guys so bear with me...This is primarily directed to those rippers who work with NTSC sources...

These are the tools Im using:
SmartRipper
DVD2AVI
VFAPI
VirtualDub (to frameserve the avi)
Cinema Craft Encoder 2.5 (to encode)

OK here goes,
I'm am trying to match the svcd scene standards.

When I go into DVD2AVI, if I save project using force film, and frameserve using virtualdub, my mpeg2 comes out fine, looks wonderful, but the framerate is 24 fps.

Now, if I go into DVD2AVI and make no changes to the feild order (keeping my source @ 29.97fps), and frameserve using virtualdub, I get strange results. I either get scan lines in my mpeg, or i get a motion blur. When I am encoding in CCE, I have been checking progressive frames (if that is of any importance.)

Basically, I want to get the look of a 24fps mpeg2 as a 29.97fps mpeg2. please dont say it cannot be done, because it can. (Look at the Lord of the Rings release from TCF; it looks exactly like a 24fps mpeg ive made, yet the frame rate is 29.97) Please, any help is greatly appreciated. If anyone is willing to look, I can email samples of mpegs ive made using various changes in the rip process to assist in helping me get the right settings.
Kandor
29th January 2002, 03:33
encode with force film then run pulldown on the finished 23.976 fps stream
EyeLykeB0ngs
29th January 2002, 03:59
encode with force fil in what?? dvd2avi right? then run pull down in what, virtualdub or cce? thanks again.
chainsaw135
29th January 2002, 04:40
Yes run force film with dvd2avi
also you can download pulldown.exe from the download section of doom9.
EyeLykeB0ngs
29th January 2002, 05:54
i got it all guys! thanx for your help. now, two last questions...is cce the encoder TCF used to encode the Lord of the Rings dvd rip?? and how do i know what pass cce is on when i am encoding? it only makes the video information file once, then it says it is transcoding. is this normal? is there anyway to tell if an what pass the encoder is on. again, thanks guys. you have all been a big help.
EyeLykeB0ngs
29th January 2002, 20:48
ok, now...

if i use 1 pass vbr (with that 'Q' level thing) to make the vaf file,

will that improve the quality of a 4 pass vbr encode if i use the vaf i made in the 1 pass as the video information file?

thanx for your help
chainsaw135
29th January 2002, 22:12
NO 4 pass is better quality