007 - Goldfinger drives me crazy !

[SpEeDaMiGo]

Hi
I've encoded the video with GKnot/Nandub and the audio with Azid/Lame to mono mp3 at 80kbits. There are some strange credits at the end(longer than 20min) which look like "placeholders" for some extras or trailers. Thus I've just encoded the movie with the trim option and manually set the appropriate runtime in the bitrate tab. The mp3 however contains the whole thing (however this shouldn't be a problem IMHO cause Nandub cuts the audio off when muxing)
Now, I've got f** strange synch problems. With standard interleaving settings in Nandub (and zero delay) the first ~30min are well synchronized, although DVD2AVI indicated a delay of -280ms. The rest of the movie however is really asynch (the end as much as the middle). When I want the end of the movie to be synch I have to put a delay of about +600ms, but then the beginning is asynch. Framerate correction doesn't help either. It really seems that there is some delay "inserted" during the first 30min (I can't localise it exactly, cause of dark action scenes).
Muxing the AC3 from DVD2AVI with my video output also won't help; there seems to be the same problem.
May there be something wrong with GKnot/Nandub video output ?

btw I also had two older bond movies where only 0ms delay for interleaving was good and not the indicated delay values from DVD2AVI ..... strange

thanks for any help

[seoulsteve]

did you use smartripper v2.40 in movie mode?

if you didn't, you might get all kinds of extra garbage (like FBI warning screens and maybe some trailer stuff) as part of your rip.

[LotionBoy]

did you try delaying the audio by the correct amount and then trying frame rate correction? That might help. THe other thing you might want to check is using ac3fix to check the ac3 for CRC errors. Those cause similar problems to what you are talking about (two parts of a movie needing different settings to sync).

LotionBoy

[SpEeDaMiGo]

@Lotionboy
Gonna try it out
thanks

@seoulsteve
I used the default settings (movie mode), but I always manually selected the ifo file. I've always done this so far without any problems.
My question: when using stream processing, is there any problem ?

[HungarianFalcon]

I've had the same problem. It turns out that something strange happens to the sound at the beginning of chapter 13(?) (right after the golden car disassembly scene). After fruitlessly attempting some more elegant solutions, I ended up splitting the avi and the mp3 in two and using a different audio delay for the two parts.

[SpEeDaMiGo]

@hungarianfalcon

finally I did exactly the same ...
I don't have the film at hand right now, but I also think it was somewhere around this chapter ....

so far I also had some other strange movies, where I had to manually find the correct delay ... once it was over 5 seconds

[HungarianFalcon]

I guess I've been lucky, so far this was the only problematic DVD. (It was also the first rip I ever did, so I didn't know whether it was my stupidity or the DVD at fault).

[Hekke1664]

I ended up splitting the avi and the mp3 in two and using a different audio delay for the two parts.

I tried the same, but it still isn't in sync, what software did you use to mux the files ? or did you split the movie on 2 cds ?

[manono]

Hi-

I think one solution is to find where the asynch occurs and to split it there. The first half should be OK, and the second half asynch. Then adjust the delay for the second half until it's back in synch and save it, rejoin the 2 halves, and then split where you really want. In my case, yes, it was for a 2 CD rip.

This was for a long movie on 2 DVDs (Gangs Of New York), where the asynch occured between the 2 discs after I had joined the vob files together. But your case may be different.

[OvERaCiD23]

@manono

I just experienced the exact same thing with 'Gods and Generals', where the second disc (side, actually) was asynch. The delay shown for the AC3 stream was way off (by about 1000ms). I've never experienced this before, and it's weird to hear that 'Gangs of New York' is the same way.

[bond]

Originally posted by SpEeDaMiGo
I've encoded the video with GKnot/Nandub and the audio with Azid/Lame to mono mp3 at 80kbits.sorry to post something off-topic
but is it true that the audio is mono on the goldfinger dvd?

[manono]

To OvERaCiD23-

Yes, that's the first time I had seen that also, although I hadn't backed up movies on 2 DVDs before. That's not entirely true. I backed up Das Boot once, which is a flipper like yours, but don't remember having any audio problems. Evidently the same thing happens with LOTR Extended. There are 2 solutions, I think. One is to cut out video frames where the vobs are joined, by the same amount as the asynch, and the other is to split where the asynch occurs and to resynch the asynch part. It wasn't too hard to do once I had figured out what was going on. What threw me off for awhile was the fact that the delay was 0 ms for both parts, so I guess there was some silence with no audio at all at the end of the first DVD. The asynch was almost 3 seconds in my case.

Interestingly, the length of both parts of Gangs Of New York is almost identical, but when I split at the end of the first DVD, that part was 830 MB and the second half was only 565 MB. So just encoding each part for one CD will give very different quality for the 2 halves of the movie. There's way more action in the first half (plus the end credits get a higher quant). It's a good example of why it's usually better to join the vobs in such cases.

To bond-

According to IMDB (http://us.imdb.com/Title?0058150), the audio for Goldfinger is 1.0 mono.