Settings for 'one-scene-movie'

[MatLz]

Hi all.
What is the appropriate codec settings for movies, or part of movies, which have only one scene?
For example: "Canon Fodder", the part 3 of the movie "Memories".

[LoRd_MuldeR]

If seeking/recovery isn't important for you, I'd increase the maximum key-frame interval to the length of the clip, so there won't be any "forced" scenecuts in-between.

For anything else, you can use your "usual" settings, I guess...

[MatLz]

Thanks Lord.
I thought play with I/P or P/B quantizer ratios or it's useless in that case?

[Zarxrax]

Eh, that movie definitely has more than one scene.

[MatLz]

Eh, that movie definitely has more than one scene.

Thanks for useless reply.
For the example, I precised 'Canon Fodder part 3 of the movie Memories'.
What's wrong with you?Brain or eyes?

[ChronoCross]

Thanks for useless reply.
For the example, I precised 'Canon Fodder part 3 of the movie Memories'.
What's wrong with you?Brain or eyes?

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[Puncakes]

Thanks for useless reply.
For the example, I precised 'Canon Fodder part 3 of the movie Memories'.
What's wrong with you?Brain or eyes?

Nothing is wrong with him. Cannon Fodder has several scenes. Please clarify what you mean by "scene," as it appears to differ from the general usage, and likely the definition, of the word. In any case, I don't have my copy on hand, but if I remember correctly, there isn't anything special enough about the movie that would make it worth the effort of changing much from the standard --preset speed --tune animation.

[MatLz]

Isn't kind to be worried about health of the other?

I've a bad english, so scene is maybe not the right word. Maybe 'one plan' or 'just one camera which capture without interruption' ?

[neuron2]

Isn't kind to be worried about health of the other? Knock it off or strikes will follow.

[MatLz]

Knock it off or strikes will follow.

Ok, understood. My apologizes.

So, what is the right word in this case? Scene, plan..?

[neuron2]

Without seeing your video it's difficult to agree on its characterization.

But even if a camera shot is continuous it could span what we might like to call multiple scenes. For example, the camera is quickly panned from a talking head to an outdoors vista.

[Puncakes]

Could you be talking about it having very few "camera" movements? As in, throughout each scene, the angle, or point of view, is static? If that's what you mean, increasing rc-lookahead would be a good idea. Same goes for refs and bframes. Basically, --preset veryslow --tune animation --rc-lookahead [as high as you can go without running out of memory], and possibly --bframes 16, is probably what you are looking for.

[MatLz]

Thanks all.

From:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memories_(film)?wasRedirected=true

'the film consists of one continuous shot or long take'

[thewebchat]

I'm pretty sure there's a 99.9% chance that you want to be able to seek in your movie without decoding from the start. If, as you say, the movie consists one continuous set with low camera motion, you might look into disabling scenecut so that IDRs have a fixed distance of, say, 600 frames. On the other hand, I have watched "Cannon Fodder" from Memories, and I swear there was at least one scenecut in it (though I may be remembering wrong).

Consider the following settings:
--keyint 600 --no-scenecut

[Zarxrax]

Well, if it's all one continuous shot, then perhaps I was mistaken, as it's been about 10 years since I watched this film. But from what I can remember of it, I can't imagine how it could have all been one shot.

[MatLz]

@Zarxarx
My apologizes again for my bad words (even you were mistaken ;) )
How is possible only one shot? Surely a hard work of the drawers!

[MatLz]

Well, after testing with all your suggestions, it appears the best compromise is with keyint set to the number of frames of the movie and paradoxly with scenecut to 100.
Even with scenecut to the max, there are only 24 keyframes inserted on a total of 32180. But seeking is acceptable because the keyframes have fortunetely a good repartition.
Quality is great.
Thx all.