High Quality Encoder that mpc-hc can play

[mark0077]

Hi,

I am preparing a presentation in adobe premiere for a charity event. I have kept everything lossless all along the way, 60fps rendered movies, flac audio.

My hdd can't read the lossless file fast enough so I get skips and jumps when playing back a raw encoded export of this.

Is there any encoder that

1) Can get me a 50% reduction in size or more (any lossless codecs that can get that far down?)
2) Can be setup easily so that I can encode in adobe premiere
3) Can keep my audio lossless 44.1khz stereo (wmv9.2 lossless audio encoder seemed to.... well not keep my audio lossless)
4) Will playback fine with mpc-hc

My video will be 60fps 1024 x 768

Thanks alot

[Dark Shikari]

x264 with --qp 0 --no-cabac should play back fast enough.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Indeed it should on a decent dual core with a fast decoder like ffmpeg-mt.

If not, x264 at a very high CRF mode like 16 should be quite sufficient.

Regarding outputting from Premiere - I suggest rendering a lossless AVI first - i.e. HuffYUV or Lagarith etc... (or frameserving with Debugmode), and then encoding x264 as a final output.

~MiSfit

[buzzqw]

is ffdshow now able to decode lossless x264?

BHH

[Dark Shikari]

is ffdshow now able to decode lossless x264?

BHHHas been for 8 months...

[mark0077]

Sweet thanks for all the suggestions, is "x264 with --qp 0 --no-cabac" lossless?

I might do as you suggest, output losslessly and then try to convert to something that my hdd can keep up with. Its a core i7 so processing power shouldn't be a problem?, just my Samsung Spinpoint HDD's wern't able to read the 120~MBps that was requierd to keep everything uncompressed. I might even get away with a 10-20% reduction in file size.

[buzzqw]

:p ops..

thanks for the info (never mess with lossless x264.. just huffy/ffhuffy)

BHH

[mark0077]

Hi all, if I was to use x264 for example to convert my lossless clip to something a bit smaller, what software would I need to also convert my lossless audio in the same process.

[TheImperial2004]

Hi all, if I was to use x264 for example to convert my lossless clip to something a bit smaller, what software would I need to also convert my lossless audio in the same process.
You should have a look at the Audio Encoding section . For me , I'll go with Vorbis VBR at 500kbps , Not lossless but completely transparent from the source . I suggest you use Foobar2000 for audio encoding .

[mark0077]

Thanks for that. What I mean is, what software could I use that can let me encode my lossless video and audio clip (already in one avi file for example), to an avi file containing the same lossless audio, but the video say encoded using x264. Will using x264 from the command line just completely ignore the audio?

Thanks!

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Thanks for that. What I mean is, what software could I use that can let me encode my lossless video and audio clip (already in one avi file for example), to an avi file containing the same lossless audio, but the video say encoded using x264.

Avidemux, MeGUI, StaxRip, HandBrake. Just to name a few...

Will using x264 from the command line just completely ignore the audio?

Yes, the x264 CLI encoder doesn't process audio at all. However there are CLI tools (e.g. ffmpeg or MEncoder) that process audio.

[benwaggoner]

1) Can get me a 50% reduction in size or more (any lossless codecs that can get that far down?)
2) Can be setup easily so that I can encode in adobe premiere
3) Can keep my audio lossless 44.1khz stereo (wmv9.2 lossless audio encoder seemed to.... well not keep my audio lossless)
4) Will playback fine with mpc-hc
Did you use WMA 9.2 or WMA Lossless? WMA 9.2 is a lossy codec, and an old one at that. But if you have a 44.1 16-bit stereo timeline, and are going to the same as lossless, it SHOULD work. What version of Premiere are you using? CS4?

Encoding WMV as Quality VBR with Quality 100 is going to be visually lossless as well, and easy to do from Premiere.