PotPlayer x86/x64 (aka "KMPlayer Reloaded") ..in english now! <skin update 09/09/11>

[leeperry]

So KMPlayer being pretty much dead and slow/buggy, say "Hello" to YoungHuee Kang's new player(all pics are clickable thumbnails):

http://www.pixelz.fr/3/2/3/c9fdafaf99e4e08f27064ab4e39c0.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/a/2/e/f32d6c5658996bcc9ddc95af44a3c.png)

These are 21 video files opened in "seamless playback" mode(you can use the "previous"/"next" buttons to instantly skip between them):

http://www.pixelz.fr/5/9/9/93a97e5bf0e4d00990e175db97245.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/f/d/4/5d59ea650595e9ca3d67dbb65e5dc.png)

It works w/ madVR/HR/EVR and Reclock of course...it's a much improved/faster version of KMP, including ffdshow and some other stuff to connect to a Korean-only video/chat network.

It supports seamless playback(up to 1000 -one thousand- AVI/WMV/MKV/MPG files at once, mixed containers are allowed), auto-resume on the last 200 opened files, has fully configurable XML skin files and also a D3D exclusive mode http://forum.slysoft.com/images/smilies/agreed.gif

You can always get the latest english translated x86 beta here (http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=230)(thank you so much to the translators, without whom none of this would be happening http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/otakonleboss.gif) and the latest english translated x64 stable build there (http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=236)(they don't release x64 betas).

Older english translated betas are available here (http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=628625)(registration required, but you can also subscribe to their thread for instant software update email notifications http://static.rankone.nl/site_images/smilies/6/flower.gif)

The latest x86 Korean-only beta is always available here (http://get.daum.net/PotPlayer/Beta/PotPlayerSetup.exe). The latest changelog in english can always be found there (http://www.dvbsupport.net/info/potplayer.html).

There's also a localized version in French available here (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=162038).

There's a big pack of skins available here (http://good.gd/372905.htm) and another one there (http://testes.dreamhosters.com/PotPlayer_78_Skins_pack.7z)(thanks zegames). There's also a pack of russian translated skins right here (http://rghost.net/tags/Daum%20PotPlayer%20skins).

I've also made my own TMT3 skin mod (http://www.mediafire.com/?av6i833sst11x2z)(last updated on 09/09/11):

http://www.pixelz.fr/8/d/7/da580b5c49d1a33feea09f820d39f.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/5/0/1/d54d0040a5a429bd69335178ef663.png)

that adds buttons to:
-toggle seamless playback
-skip between MKV/MP4 chapters/files opened in seamless playback mode
-A/B repeat
-show the movie frame rate directly onto the transport bar
-pan & scan helper(no need to bother w/ the numeric pad anymore), which looks like this: http://www.pixelz.fr/2/e/3/e4e7e29a9e2add8ffde7b3e9ea13b.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/e/7/b/3984a8614e8412e5b3f7f0fbe6b4c.png)

All the buttons in the transport bar have right-click functions for bookmarks/favorites/pan & scan presets and so on.

PotPlayer imports MKV chapters automatically, so the two chapters skipping buttons do come in very handy:

http://www.pixelz.fr/1/5/3/767ab0dd13709da7d2bb66a07b2f7.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/5/5/d/fa5f8b67b4adeaef14af023539eb1.png)

There's a pretty extensive list of the PotPlayer skin commands here (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-CN&u=http://potplayer.5d6d.com/viewthread.php%3Ftid%3D938).

kotlmg has converted the KMP icons for PotPlayer use (http://forum.doom9.org/showpost.php?p=1504763&postcount=1455).

Personally, I've deleted all the files in PotPlayer's folder except for PotPlayerMini.exe, PotPlayer.dll and the skin file I'm using...this ensures that ffdshow/madFlac/LAV CUVID Decoder are doing all the decoding. This seems to break DVD playback, so use w/ caution.

In case of any bug/feature request, you can register on the official forum (http://cafe362.daum.net/_c21_/bbs_list?grpid=1E88b&fldid=AZMV) and most likely get a very swift reply/bugfix(posting in english is allowed).

[leeperry]

*INSTRUCTIONS TO POST ON THEIR FORUM*

important note: avoid mentioning KMP, it makes them nervous.

1) first, you need to register: https://user.daum.net/joinuser/simpleid.do?step=01

click on the blue square at the bottom in the middle

2) now you've got an anti-bot measure to fill in(thanks God it's in roman characters, unlike some Chinese forums :p), then press the blue square again

3) fill in:
login
password
password again
name (type the same as login)
gender
phone number(anything will do)

4) alright, you're registered now :cool:

<<<OOPS, THERE'S BEEN SOME CHANGES >>>
If I'm not mistaken, they added activation thingie recently, with 3 different options, the first two are for activation via phone number and the last one via email. When selected via email, it also shows dropdown menu with common domain names, so if your email domain not in the list you'll need select the last option in the dropdown, then you'll be able enter the correct domain name of your email. When you entered the correct email you'll need press the button that is next to the dropdown menu, it will then show (without page refresh) another field where you need enter the activation code from email that you should recieve in a moment.

screenshots of the aforementioned procedure:
http://thumbnails31.imagebam.com/9918/0119a799172758.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0119a799172758) http://thumbnails9.imagebam.com/9918/5ecded99172760.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5ecded99172760) http://thumbnails15.imagebam.com/9918/4ac5ce99172761.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/4ac5ce99172761) http://thumbnails22.imagebam.com/9918/39382799172762.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/39382799172762) http://thumbnails30.imagebam.com/9918/0783c099172763.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/0783c099172763)

5) time to login, click on this button: http://thumbnails15.imagebam.com/8746/74f8c987451549.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/74f8c987451549)

check the box that says you agree with the forum rules,type the anti-bot measure, and click on the left button at the bottom of the page...you should be logged in now :)

6) now to create a thread in the tech.support section: http://cafe362.daum.net/_c21_/bbs_list?grpid=1E88b&fldid=AZMV

click on the button w/ a blue pencil, the left button at the bottom of the page is to preview and the right one to submit.

You can of course edit/reply/delete your post afterwards w/ the buttons at the right side of the blue pencil.

7) to reply to a post in your own thread, first click on this button: http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/8768/87ff1087674090.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/87ff1087674090)
type in that box, then click on the left button to submit: http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/8769/a867b687687276.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/a867b687687276)

[Keiyakusha]

if anyone finds an english.ini to splayer(GPL MPC HC mod), I'd love to try it too :


This is screenshot from svplayer? My looks different:
Edit: site with linked image is down, link removed.

Edit: or splayer and svplayer are 2 different things :confused:

[leeperry]

I got it through Google...can you run it in english somehow? does it support madVR?

I've managed to turn down the video transform filter in PotPlayer, but I can't seem to find where to turn off the audio one..

[Keiyakusha]

No, I can't change the language yet... I downloaded player from here (http://svplayer.cn/) (I just edited link to svn).

Edit: I don't see madvr support but I haven't had time to look at it closely.

[mariner]

Greetings leeperry. Great find.

Does the built-in VC1 decoder work on interlaced contents?

Many thanks and best regards.

[leeperry]

np, enjoy! and let us know about your findings :)

it's got ffdshow embedded, and svplayer has a cracked version of CoreAVC included(China doesn't care about copyrights)...it's KMP w/ new options(D3D exclusive mode, etc)

[stax76]

Is startup still slooooooooooooooow?

[roozhou]

PotPlayer's internal video decoder supports DXVA of MPEG1/2, WMV8, WMV9, VC1 and H264. For MPEG1/2, WMV8/9 and VC1 it supports IDCT and motion compensation level accelleration, which means older cards like GeForece 6/7 series could also benefit from DXVA.

[Keiyakusha]

damn, I can't disable the pesky audio transform filter :(

By the way about these transforms. Are they doing something bad? I think if you don't set to do something in settings, they just sitting there...
Overall nice player but to much unneeded (for me) stuff.

[leeperry]

yeah I was wondering that too tbh..I output 32float from ffdshow to Reclock(which resamples to 24int)

you can disable both A/V transform filters in KMP...why not in PotPlayer? you can only disable the video one there :rolleyes:

and anyway because you can't disable it, it takes over madflac and ffdshow audio...I'm using a custom mixing matrix in ffdshow audio, so that's a no go for me.

and I was hoping for madVR support, this is not supported.

[Keiyakusha]

and anyway because you can't disable it, it takes over madflac and ffdshow audio...I'm using a custom mixing matrix in ffdshow audio, so that's a no go for me
Sorry I don't understand. Did you tried this (http://img2.pict.com/bc/7a/8e/1425191/0/x1.png)? Don't know about madflac but looks like I have no problems with ffdshow (http://img2.pict.com/51/53/5e/1425195/0/x2.png).

[leeperry]

yes, AC3/DTS seem to go through ffdshow audio(which I have set in the options as you just showed)...but FLAC in a MKV container is decoded by the built-in filter no matter what, I can't get it to use madflac(+ffdshow audio post-processing).

and these day I enjoy lossless tracks a lot(especially 7.1 24bit, which only madflac can decode properly), DTS just sounds lousy in comparison of FLAC...I believe I read some tests that were proving that 1.5mbit DTS doesn't give better results than 448kbit AC3 :rolleyes:

[tetsuo55]

it supports seamless playback, auto-resume and has a nice GUI, the top 3 features of KMP imhoAre these the main (possibly only?) things you are missing from MPC-HC?

[leeperry]

I think so, yeah :)

I can just stop ANY movie I want, play it again after several hours/days and it'll start right where I stopped it...so nice!

and I can have 100 video files in a folder(TV series, etc), and it will open them seamlessly...so great!

and I really can't bear the yellow speaker in MPC HC anyway :D ..I know I can remove it w/ resedit, but it still looks lifeless. we're not in 1995 anymore, the transport bar is so yesterday :o

KMP on a 2 meters wide projection screen just looks slick as hell :

http://thumbnails19.imagebam.com/4453/208dad44521156.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/208dad44521156)

PS: well the "A>B" buttons are pretty cool too, you can loop any section of the movie you want.......then you can slow it down w/ Reclock. KMP is just beyond words!

[tetsuo55]

I think so, yeah :)

I can just stop ANY movie I want, play it again after several hours/days and it'll start right where I stopped it...so nice!

and I can have 100 video files in a folder(TV series, etc), and it will open them seamlessly...so great!

and I really can't bear the yellow speaker in MPC HC anyway :D ..I know I can remove it w/ resedit, but it still looks lifeless. we're not in 1995 anymore, the transport bar is so yesterday :o

KMP on a 2 meters wide projection screen just looks slick as hell :

http://thumbnails19.imagebam.com/4453/208dad44521156.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/208dad44521156)

PS: well the "A>B" buttons are pretty cool too, you can loop any section of the movie you want.......then you can slow it down w/ Reclock. KMP is just beyond words!To get what you want in MPC would require
1. A complete rewrite of the playlist code, which would add those features and some others.
2. Making the player skinable or something

In the meantime, the current icon could be replaced with a nicer one i guess? if you have a better icon(GPL compatible) that fits in the current framework i see no problem with updating to that one.

[leeperry]

well, a slicker seeking bar "indicator" and the ability to turn off volume control altogether would be really great...I use DirectKS in Reclock, so I really don't need volume control(I use Volumouse to change the master volume). you can see that I've taken off volume control in my KMP skin ;)

I'm just amazed by how much work the original KMP coder has put into KMP and PotPlayer....I know he stole a lot of code from MPC and ffdshow, but still! :eek:

[tetsuo55]

Yeah and if he had simply joined the mpc-hc team we would have ok'd at least 95% of those changes, and the remaing 5% would be possible in a branch or fork, keeping all updates in sync.

[leeperry]

he hardly speaks english, so communication wouldn't have been easy....plus he prolly made some big bucks selling KMP to pandora.tv

and he works in Delphi.

[tetsuo55]

yeah i dont have anyone who speaks korean, svplayer will be slightly easier because i speak a little chinese, and have a ton of chinese friends.

[leeperry]

well, I just remembered that MPC is a no go for me anyway, as it always remains as a system process when I close it...many other ppl have this problem on HCFR.

something to do w/ ffdshow I think(avisynth related? or maybe winamp2 plugin), never had this problem in KMP..

[tetsuo55]

well, I just remembered that MPC is a no go for me anyway, as it always remains as a system process when I close it...many other ppl have this problem on HCFR.

something to do w/ ffdshow I think(avisynth related? or maybe winamp2 plugin), never had this problem in KMP..I'd need more details on this, definately not mpc core problem or ffdshow problem.

[leeperry]

I gave some ProcessExplorer logs to Casimir about this issue, but he was so busy w/ DXVA at the time that he couldn't look into it.

well, some thread is not killed properly when I close the player...so it remains as a system process. I believe it's due to the winamp2 plugin in ffdshow, but it never happens in KMP.

just like the deadlock w/ Reclock in MPC that Beliyaal fixed, god this one was annoying! MPC was randomly freezing on seeks :o

[tetsuo55]

Allright, wait for casimir to look into that then.

[leeperry]

well, that was like 1 year ago ;)

and it's definitely due to the ffdshow Avisynth filter, as the guys on HCFR were also using that...but don't bother, I'll wait for mVR support in KMP.

[leeperry]

Is startup still slooooooooooooooow?
it all depends. MPC takes 1/10th of a second to open, KMP 1/4" : http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11629

if 1/4" is slooooooooooooooow to you, then PotPlayer doesn't look any faster to me. KMP has far more features than MPC, it'll cost ya 1/4" for each file...it's a take it or leave it kinda deal http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/vignos.gif

[Keiyakusha]

leeperry
Sorry for asking here. I just saw your screenshot of KMPLayer...
How to make this thing (http://www.petaimg.com/u22/175Untitled-1.jpg) brighter or change its color? Is there any skin similar to built-in but only with this thing changed or it is possible to change this in settings?
Because I broke my eyes with this gray tones.

[stax76]

It's about 5 seconds.

[leeperry]

it is possible to change this in settings?
Because I broke my eyes with this gray tones.
I took the skin file from here: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9507

it's a zip file, and I used HR's OSD green color on all the GUI components :)
It's about 5 seconds.
lol? what kind of specs is your system?

MPC opens the same file instantly? you're using stuff like Reclock/ffdshow's avisynth and so?

I have to admit that I've copied KMP on a ramdisk, and I've deleted all the DLL's in its folder except :
KIconLib.dll
MediaInfo.dll
PProcDLL.DLL

update to the latest beta, disable all the internal filters, and keep the settings in the registry...an .ini file makes it slow as hell to open :devil:

KMP is not quite easy to setup, but when it works...it's dynamite!

[Keiyakusha]

I took the skin file from here: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=9507

it's a zip file, and I used HR's OSD green color on all the GUI components :)

Ahh, I see. Thanks! I guess it's time to load photoshop ;)

[leeperry]

you can also mess w/ the .ini files if you want: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14449

I made KMP look exactly the way I want it: I took off the top/side borders, put the currently playing filename at the bottom, removed the volume control.

I guess you could do the same in PotPlayer ;)

[stax76]

Tried it and startup was less 2 seconds which is OK.

[leeperry]

it clearly doesn't take 2" for me...try to delete all the DLL's in its folder and only keep those I listed above, and disable the internal filters.

[Astrophizz]

The guy in that thread you linked was on an overclocked CPU with the files on a ramdisk.... That's not really comparable to the average computer setup. MPC would also start a lot faster with those measures taken. The thing that cripples startup time for me is Reclock, so I stopped using it (took forever to open a video).

[leeperry]

lol that guy is........me :D

and I had both KMP and MPC on the same defragmented ramdisk(DDR2-553)

you also need to fiddle w/ Reclock to make it start faster, like disabling the DS estimator and so on

what kills the actual video playback opening time for me is my Avisynth scripts and my winamp2 plugin...they both add significant latency.

CoreAVC CUDA also did, so I ditched it! ffdshow-mt is much faster to open.

[NoX1911]

well, I just remembered that MPC is a no go for me anyway, as it always remains as a system process when I close it...many other ppl have this problem on HCFR.

something to do w/ ffdshow I think(avisynth related? or maybe winamp2 plugin), never had this problem in KMP..
Try to disable ffdshows systray icons. They prevent proper shutdown of ffdshow sometimes.

[leeperry]

I did already, I've disabled all systray icons ;)

[Keiyakusha]

Does anyone know what is TokPlayer? (1st link in google should lead to the official site). Does it have some relation to Potplayer (like unbloated version maybe ^__^)?

[leeperry]

does it have english localization?

it would appear that the latest official build of PotPlayer does..

[Keiyakusha]

sadly no... but langfile is an xml document so translation shouldn't be hard. (no I'm not saying that I'll do that, Korean is not my strong side).
EDIT: actually someone probably already translated it, I didn't searched yet.
EDIT2: it seems to be based on ffdshow

[Keiyakusha]

Here (http://www.wikifortio.com/764565/English.xml.zip) you go. press F5 and choose english at the bottom of the window. Looks nice by the way. At least worth a try. However I launched it only from isolated environment so not responsible for any harm :Р

[Gser]

So this is all useless bloatware that has tiny non-mentionable features integrated into them. MPC-HC plays every file I throw at it with FFDSHOW+CoreAVC. That is everything anyone should need.

[Keiyakusha]

That is everything anyone should need.
You are wrong. That is everything you need. But other people such as KMPlayer fans can argue with this. To me this player looks somewhat similar to KMPlayer/PotPlayer I thought this may be interesting to someone. I am MPC-HC fan, but I think that all internal filters in it is a useless bloatware, so what? I can live with that because other things are awesome.

[leeperry]

So this is all useless bloatware that has tiny non-mentionable features integrated into them. MPC-HC plays every file I throw at it with FFDSHOW+CoreAVC. That is everything anyone should need.
well, where do we start? I don't really use PotPlayer, but I think it essentially does everything KMP does + some korean TV stuff:
-seamless playback of up to 100 files in a row, they will be virtually pasted as one...meaning, you can seek into any of them instantly.
-totally crazy subs support, everything you could think of is configurable
-very nice GUI(*not* WMP6.4 like), and there's hundreds of them available too.

and many more features I don't care for...I use it as a frontend to ffdshow/CoreAVC/Reclock/madVR, I don't use the built-in filters.
Here (http://www.wikifortio.com/764565/English.xml.zip) you go. press F5 and choose english at the bottom of the window. Looks nice by the way. At least worth a try.
so what does it do that KMP doesn't? :p

[naoan]

Here (http://www.wikifortio.com/764565/English.xml.zip) you go. press F5 and choose english at the bottom of the window. Looks nice by the way. At least worth a try. However I launched it only from isolated environment so not responsible for any harm :Р

wait did you check your that link before cause i got this
ACS5/Adobe Creative Suite 5/Fireworks CS5/Fireworks_11_LS3.exe
instead :confused:

[Keiyakusha]

Yes, I did. Also as you can see link leads to english.xml however now there is something different. Maybe that file was moved/deleted.
EDIT: here (http://www.mediafire.com/?2hjm2ezoqyd) I reuploaded it

[naoan]

thanks gonna check it out, though i read on different forum that it isn't as powerful as KM/Potplayer

*sigh* if only mpc-hc have better playlist handling or kmplayer isn't so prone to crash with ffdshow+avisynth+madvr... :(

[leeperry]

kmplayer [..] so prone to crash with ffdshow+avisynth+madvr... :(
huh? works like a charm here...what avisynth plugins exactly? I use LSF on all my videos, and mt_masktools.dll >2.0.32 crash randomly yes...but it happens to many ppl, not just me.

[naoan]

huh? works like a charm here...what avisynth plugins exactly? I use LSF on all my videos, and mt_masktools.dll >2.0.32 crash randomly yes...but it happens to many ppl, not just me.

Many but if I have to list :

SetMemoryMax(512)
SetMTMode(3,3)
ffdshow_source()
SetMTMode(2,3)
mt("toonLite()",3,2)
setmtmode(5)
fft3dgpu(sigma=1,bh=32,bw=32)
setmtmode(2,3)
gradFunkMirror()
spline36resize(1360,768)
awarpsharp2()
SetMTMode(1)
GetMTMode(false) > 0 ? distributor() : last

This script is mainly for viewing anime, anyway with KMplayer it'll always crash when I close it and I hate how ffdshow menu always become out of focus if I call it via kmplayer filter while playing a file, I like to fiddle the script. MPC-HC will play and close just fine.

[leeperry]

I understand SetMTMode() will run in asynchronous mode(that's what HR's jitter was showing me anyway), did you try:
SetMemoryMax(512)
MT("""
toonLite()
fft3dgpu(sigma=1,bh=32,bw=32)
gradFunkMirror()
spline36resize(1360,768)
awarpsharp2()
""",4)
you could also run some benchmarks in VDUB, but this should work fine(and be faster too?)...feeding frames asynchronously is not that good for realtime playback IMHO.

that's funny, KMP always closes like a charm for me...but MPC-HC remains as an active process half of the time. tetsuo is aware of the issue, as I'm far from being the only one encountering it.

[naoan]

Nah the script's alright, it run nice enough in my system and also MT have problem with fft3dgpu, resizer and awarpsharp, specific to each one. There's also other version with Dehalo_alpha and it stresses my cpu more than any game. :p

As for closing problem I dunno, maybe our OS is different? I use Win 7 btw (and latest kmplayer/mpc-hc svn).

[CruNcher]

How about nicer switching out of DirectX Exclusive mode (continue playback in windowed mode on switch out) that Player like Zoomplayer and KMP support for MPC-HC, that's a request i have for years now ahh and TWOS/SOWT support in Gabest MP4/MOV splitter would be cool like Haali supports it, though as i heard MPC-HC devs want to replace all the Source Splitters with Libavformat that's gonna be Powerful but i wonder how the interoperability to directshow will work as all these parser are native and not made in mind for directshow interoperability :)
Isn't it harder to adapt Libavformat to directshow then trying to fix most of the issues and playback formats with the current directshow source filter ?

[Havokdan]

Here (http://www.wikifortio.com/764565/English.xml.zip) you go. press F5 and choose english at the bottom of the window. Looks nice by the way. At least worth a try. However I launched it only from isolated environment so not responsible for any harm :Р

I've been translating. Xml to English, was actually Google, I just put the translation into xml, PotPlayer has the following differences:

- The module's internal subtitle PotPlayer is the same that comes in FFDSHOW, you can use it as well vsfitler;
- Was removed and gen_ml.dll mediainfo.dll that existed in KMP, then PotPlayer not have the Media Library and the functions it had lost Alt + J and Ctrl + Tab;
The internal-codecs PotPlayer is based on the version of FFDSHOW which supports DXVA;

These are just some things I noticed, but between the KMPlayer, and PotPlayer TokPlayer, I prefer the KMP, but this is a bit left, so until we have news about KMP, I'm using PotPlayer, which I translated as well ( version of April 15, 2010), but in this case to my native language.

[cipher]

how do you use that english.xml for potplayer exactly?

I downloaded potplayer from here:
http://tvpot.daum.net/video/live/PotplayerSpec.do

After I hit F5, I don't see a language list to choose from.

Thanks.

[Havokdan]

The xml is for TokPlayer (www.tokplayer.com), to use it in tokplayer just copy the xml to the folder "lang" and open the player, press F5 and switch Korean to English. To translate the PotPlayer you have to translate two dlls (PotPlayer.dll and DPShell.dll), this makes it difficult to upgrade, once you upgrade PotPlayer he goes back to the original language, it would be better if the translation was in a specific file.

[ForceX]

I just put the english.xml from the mediafire link in the folder. Tokplayer displays the file on the list but won't let me select it. And advice?

[Havokdan]

I'll download the latest version here and test, make sure that the download was not corrupted? This has happened to me in some cases. Update: I've tried and it worked perfectly here. Look at the image:

http://img714.imageshack.us/img714/5242/imagembk.jpg

[ForceX]

I suspected the problem is in the english.xml given by Keiyakusha in here: http://www.mediafire.com/?2hjm2ezoqyd I thought there might be some incompatibility with the xml tagging which is making the program deny using this version, so I compared the korean with english version, and, well, the english.xml has "Host: www.mediafire." in it, so yeah, pretty sure the file's corrupted.

You seem to be using a different english.xml. Can you upload yours somewhere? Or maybe Keiyakusha could put the working copy in a zip file and kindly upload it again.

[Havokdan]

The version uploaded to the mediafire is my (I went through google translate to english), I can upload yes, but the link will be valid for a short time. Link: http://www.wikifortio.com/799266/English.xml.zip

[ForceX]

Hmm I don't think so since the mediafire version has General where yours says Normal, for instance. Regardless, your upload works perfectly. Thank you. ^^

[Havokdan]

Well, I do not speak English, so any translation error is the fault of google... XD

[Defcon]

Strangr problem here. I cannot change tokplayer language file to english.xml. If I select english.xml, it immediately changes it back to korean.xml even without closing the dialog. If I delete korean.xml it gets recreated. This is on Windows 7.

[Havokdan]

The final version was translated PotPlayer (well, that was the google translate, but the guy took the trouble to implement) to English. I translated it to Portuguese.

Link to English version (version 1.5.XXXXX):http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=568183

[leeperry]

Link to English version (version 1.5.XXXXX):http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=568183
"Add MadVR renderer" http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/alphat.gif

[Havokdan]

It was possible to use it in version 1.4 ... but now with the visible option was better.

[leeperry]

so I heard...if it's finally possible to disable the audio transform filter, maybe I'll switch from KMP :)

[leeperry]

new KMP build! http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=78802 :cool:

you can use 7-Zip to decompress the installer directly ;)

[bob00]

Anyone got SPDIF passthrough working in PotPlayer? I tried the internal decoder as well as AC3Filter, but in both cases PotPlayer just freezes.

PotPlayer 1.5.22347
Windows 7 x64

[leeperry]

Link to English version (version 1.5.XXXXX):http://www.sat-universe.com/showthread.php?p=568183
ok ran this exe through https://www.virustotal.com/ and trying it as I'm typing this...a lot of missing features from KMP are actually in PotPlayer :)

like in KMP you can only set the media volume to the audio renderer directly(like in MPC) or to the windows master volume...in PotPlayer you can also set it on the WAVE volume, very handy!

it's also finally possible to disable the audio transform filter: http://thumbnails23.imagebam.com/8393/05636083926565.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/05636083926565)

I'll see if there's any benefit switching from KMP :devil:

[Astrophizz]

I'm curious if it can handle mkv chapters natively (without having to to go to a splitter menu). That's one of the issues I have with KMP :/

[leeperry]

I also wish there were a "NEXT" button when you open a lot of files seamlessly in KMP...and it's also freezing on seek sometimes in seamless mode, I've made many bug reports about this on the official forum :(

anyways, it seems that KMP/MPC like to probe my soundcard for supported sample rates each time I open a movie..and my external S/PDIF DAC really hates this, I don't get a single glitch or pop in PotPlayer :eek: If kyh also fixed the random freezing on seamless playback, I'll prolly switch. I also hope you can finetune the GUI like in KMP coz I've spent quite some time on my KMP skin and I looooove it the way it is.

PS: one thing's for sure, it opens VERY fast! KMP takes forever to open a video file..
PPS: after taking ages setting all the options, this player kills! http://thumbnails26.imagebam.com/8395/6a6a1883943148.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/6a6a1883943148)

[Astrophizz]

I believe Potplayer's gui is fairly flexible. At least judging by this skin: Perilla Leaf (http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=zh-TW&u=http://dreamxis.blogbus.com/logs/64372191.html&prev=/search%3Fq%3Ddreamxis%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26sa%3DG&rurl=translate.google.com&twu=1&usg=ALkJrhjWCg53MC6YbETq67jlthUWuo4VTQ). It's Google translated from Chinese but still pretty incoherent to me. Anyways I think the person is complaining about some limitations and lack of documentation. But then again he/she made that skin.

[leeperry]

yes, there's an xml file I'll have a look at it :)

so after some more testing, it overcomes all the bad sides of KMP:
-instant opening, KMP takes AGES to even show up
-seamless playback doesn't seem to randomly crash on seek anymore
-KMP has recently been multithreaded....but wow, PP is blazing fast! It's a combo made in heaven w/ mVR :)
-I get glitch-free PCM over S/PDIF, unlike MPC/KMP that like to glitch up before the movie starts :mad:

the only thing I'm worried about is that it's based on KMP's code, and the code to hide the mouse cursor didn't work for me until they very recently fixed it(it works in MPC)...I'll have to watch many movies to check whether it's still there. I've looked for an email/forum for bug reports in case it is, but I'm really not sure who to whine to if need be :o

PS: humm, getting seamless playback to work on AVI takes a lot of luck..WMV is fine, though.

PPS: the GUI is a bit broken, if you want to forbid multiples instances you have to add this to the registry:
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\DAUM\PotPlayerMini\Settings]
"AllowMultiple"=dword:00000000

[Virtual_ManPL]

...
I'll see if there's any benefit switching from KMP :devil:

probably faster + less bugs&crashes&hangs etc... because KMP is already dead player... :p

...
the only thing I'm worried about is that it's based on KMP's code...
because same developer (Kang, YoungHuee) create this players, and PotPlayer is rewritten in C++ as far I remember :cool:

[leeperry]

O RLY? anyway I haven't had any funky mouse cursor appearing for no reason in the middle of a movie so far, hopefully it's been fixed for good :)

the only bummer is that seamless playback seems erratic on AVI files :(

even if I check "open all files in folder", most of the times it doesn't work :/

it works fine on WMV, I will have to try MKV

[leeperry]

so seamless playback works on AVI sometimes, can't really explain why: http://thumbnails12.imagebam.com/8417/edc2b584163408.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/edc2b584163408)

BTW, it shows the filename of the file being currently played in seamless mode...unlike KMP. very cool feature!
and the P&S preset editor refuses to remember my settings: http://thumbnails27.imagebam.com/8417/5c473084163371.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/5c473084163371)

[Havokdan]

Last version: http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=230
Changelog: http://www.dvbsupport.net/info/potplayer.html

Add DVD playback speed
Add a custom volume adjustment
Fixed some MP4 files subtitles synchronized issues
Fixed problem when more than 3 audio tracks in AC3 SPDIF output compression
Fixed sound problem with the noise on broadcasting
Fixed invalid position of subtitles output word spacing settings
Fixed audio decoder playback delays on 64-bit system
Fixed failure menu shortcuts
Fixed deleting some temporary files
Fixed screen using with keyboard shortcuts to minimize
Fixed screen tearing play problem in some MPEG2 files
Fixed MPEG2 <-> H.264 can not be converted to play in the BDA issue
Fixed security of chat module

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.22243 Beta
Update Built-in Codecs
Adjust some default settings
Other bug fixes

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.22219 Beta
Remake DRM
Fixed EVR CP 60-frame playback problem
Some fixs

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.22155 Beta
Fixed the problem of skin garbled output message (UTF-8 +)
Built-in decoder update
Fixed Built-in decoder on initial configuration
Fixed playback control method
Fixed recording broadcast error problem
Fixed time display problem caused by procedural error
Improved de-interlacing functionality video compression
Improved text rendering issues

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.22033 Beta
Improvements of the built-in decoder
Add a video coding compression, + Deinterlacing

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.22016 Beta
* Re-configure the form design parameters
* Simplified main menu
+ Add subtitles Fade Effect
+ Add captions to the output surface mode features in the map
+ Add MadVR renderer
+ Add Play online media positioning function when the slider
+ Add playlist album features
+ Add playlist function temporary queue
+ Add MultiThread H.264 multi-threaded decoding
+ Add playlist tabs
+ Add to display file information MediaInfo components
+ Add a form to set the translucent feature
+ Add images 90-degree rotation
+ Add images migration functionality
+ Add Windows7 Taskbar support
+ Add bookmark function to display thumbnails
+ Add record format can be saved as ASF, OGV format
+ Add self-closing feature when play finished
+ Add a custom boot size function
+ Add file navigator
+ Add to open the streamlined menu
+ Add function to view the summary information
+ Add a voice filter process can be immediately reset function
- Updated built-in decoder
- Fixed some problems can not load subtitles
- Fixed can not load the first two drives in the subtitle problem
- Update VMR9 without rendering and rendering renderer EVR Recommended
- Enhanced (MPEG, NSV, OGG, REAL, MP4) file playback
- Support for simultaneous recording of two or more media video
- Enhance the seamless playback
- To improve the video, audio processing
- Improved video recording
- To improve the frame rate processing demand
- Improve the DXVA decoder
- Fixed some special H.264 files after sliding the screen Loss
- Fixed output HD-DVD's subtitles high CPU utilization problem
- Fixed use of images in a specific ratio of the screen is lost when cutting issues
- Open similar documents to improve the logic
- Adjust the Vista or Windows7 of VMR7, VMR9, EVR mode distribution
- Can edit subtitles cover
- Detailed information output mode
- To improve the Explorer file association
- Some PC play a specific broadcast lead to CPU 100% occupancy rate of
- Fixed some functional problems for the broadcast of the invalid
- Modify the image filter in use immediately reset function
- Fixed the screen output ratio imbalance
- Fixed other known issues

[leeperry]

thanks for the headsup, that's the version I'm running: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=616615&postcount=6

Is there a place to talk to the coders? I've sent an email to kyh on one of his old accounts..

[iSunrise]

First impressions are very good. Paired with madVR this seems totally out of this world, extremely smooth and seemless playback. I really like the already built-in skins, which perfectly match the player´s other capabilities. You can even hide the skin completely, which is a nice touch.

However, I´m not sure why I have to enable "Open a file using thread to fix freeze" under the playback tab, since the player instantly freezes without this option checked. Really took ages to find the problem, this seems to have solved it.

Does anyone also need this checked? I would really like to know what exactly this does.

[leeperry]

it comes from KMP, it opens a second thread to open the file...I have it checked too ;)

[Ronin-7]

Nice player but one thing I cant seem to find is the default playback method resizes a video to the window size, is there a setting that makes it resize the player to the videos resolution like in MPC-HC or VLC's default playback method. I've looked through the settings and tried a few but cant find this.

[naoan]

I found it, f5->playback->screen size-> set to "screen size x 1.0 (100%)".

Now if only I can find a way to modify my extra mouse button to be like mpc-hc (next/prev chapter)... I had the same dilemma with KMP too...

[leeperry]

If anyone cares I've removed the top section and the right-side shorcut to the playlist from the default skin..much better IMHO(it's a ZIP file): http://www.mediafire.com/file/ydyo2jddygd/default2.dsf

and I've deleted all the files in its folder except:
PotPlayerMini.exe
PotPlayer.dll
\Skins\default2.dsf

this ensures that ffdshow's being used for everything.

that's too bad there's no shortcut to the filters list on the transport bar like in KMP, you're forced to get into the menus..and w/ the brilliant recent changes to ffdshow, it takes a lot of submenus to finally reach ffdshow's config :rolleyes:

[Virtual_ManPL]

It's just me or PotPlayer didn't want to close completely ?
I need to do force close in task manager to get rid of it completely (process and start menu info)

I'm using only extracted PotPlayerMini.exe with PotPlayer.dll like leeperry :)

[leeperry]

closing fine here on XP SP3 :)

but a few annoying problems for me:
-the A/B buttons don't work on the default skin...too bad, duh
-I've set the left mouse button to go windowed/FS, in KMP you can click anywhere on the bottom transport bar and you stay in FS...not in PotP, if you don't click exactly on the "time line" it reverts to windowed, very annoying :/
-Sometimes I get some weird noisy sound over PCM S/PDIF, it's very rare but it's never happened in KMP

and about opening times, PotP is just cheating I think! Yes, the GUI shows up right away but it seems to take the same amount of time as KMP to actually play the video file.

I've notified kyh96403 on several of his email accounts about those points + a few other minor bugs, but no reply so far.

[lnatan25]

Hey guys!

Anyone know of a version of the mini KPM skin for an English version? (There is already a KMP1 skin, but not the mini-mode of KMP1.)

[leeperry]

new build: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=622274&postcount=8

[RNiK]

new build: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=622274&postcount=8
Version 1.5.x is still beta or it's now the official stable version?

[lucamark]

Still beta..

[NoX1911]

What's the difference between 'PotPlayerMini.exe' and 'PotPlayer.exe'?

[leeperry]

What's the difference between 'PotPlayerMini.exe' and 'PotPlayer.exe'?
there's no PotPlayer.exe AFAIK

[NoX1911]

Sure there is...

PotPlayerMini.exe = Playback only

[leeperry]

ok, I've posted a bug report/features request on their forum: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1522 :)

[leeperry]

new build available: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=628625&postcount=10

and it includes most of the bugs/feature requests I asked for yesterday on their forum, too good to be true :devil:

I've also reworked the OP.

[buzzqw]

@leeperry

from your link isn't possible to download unless registered to forum..

other links ?

BHH

[leeperry]

it's freely downloadable here, I'll make the OP clearer: http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=230

[buzzqw]

ops.. thanks leeperry i missed the first post

BHH

[Peuj]

new build available: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=628625&postcount=10

and it includes most of the bugs/feature requests I asked for yesterday on their forum, too good to be true :devil:

I've also reworked the OP.

Nice you found and tried the Forum . :thanks:

[Adub]

This program has so many friggin options! It's almost too scary to use. ;)

[leeperry]

BTW, there's a big pack of skins available here: http://good.gd/372905.htm

but I still haven't found one that:
-has a "one click" access to the current filters list
-A/B buttons
-a very thick transport bar for easy access
-shows the filename and the container/video+audio codecs
-no writing in Korean

about time I start modding my own skin I guess..

[Astrophizz]

I finally decided to try it out. There's still no support for chapters in mkv's :( On top of that I can't seem to get the aspect ratio to display correctly and when I go fullscreen the right and left side of the image are cut off so that the bottom and top of the frame touch the bottom and top of the screen.

[leeperry]

I can't tell for the MKV chapters...maybe you can set hotkeys? otherwise go ask on their forum to have the feature added.

yes, it's called "Fullscreen+"...stay away from it, all you need is "FullScreen"

[Havokdan]

I finally decided to try it out. There's still no support for chapters in mkv's :( On top of that I can't seem to get the aspect ratio to display correctly and when I go fullscreen the right and left side of the image are cut off so that the bottom and top of the frame touch the bottom and top of the screen.

Works for me perfectly chapters in mkv, already cut about the image, you probably use double-click the mouse to leave the full screen, by default it generates the "Fullscreen+", try the full screen just by pressing "Enter".

[Neeto]

Potplayer is working well for me, MadVR and all!

Anyone seen an Areo style skin for potplayer?

The package of skins has a "WindowFrame" & "WindowFrame2" which give the transperency on the frame.

This thread talks about the transparancy for buttons on kmplayer not working correctly.
http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5730

Where can I find some info on doing skins for potplayer?

[Astrophizz]

Works for me perfectly chapters in mkv, already cut about the image, you probably use double-click the mouse to leave the full screen, by default it generates the "Fullscreen+", try the full screen just by pressing "Enter".
How did you get the mkv chapters to work? I press "next" and it jumps to the next file in the directory.

Also:

How do I get the subtitles not to shift down (so that they remain the the video frame)? Or how do I use an external subtitle filter? That's like the one filter that I can't seem to change.
My mouse won't disappear during playback, even though the settings say it should.

:thanks:

[Keiyakusha]

How do I get the subtitles not to shift down (so that they remain the the video frame)?

I also want to know this. Subtitles that painted on vmr/evr surfaces are displayed on black bars no matter what and they shifted if user interface appears, which is somehow distracting.
But anyway overall subtitle support is still not that good so we probably should use vsfilter...

[Astrophizz]

Yeah but I can't figure out how to get vsfilter to connect with it :(

[leeperry]

I've never used vsfiter(I was using the built-in subs engine of KMP w/HR, and now use ffdshow w/mVR) but maybe you can force it in /Filter Control/Custom Filter Manager/...add it manually and set it to "prefer". You may also need to use HMS, as the built-in MKV splitter will prolly favor its built-in subs engine.

there's 3 options to hide the mouse cursor, one in the /Playback/ options, one in the /Video/ options and one in the right-click menu under /Options/. It's working perfectly fine for me on XP SP3 so far.

You can set 2 hotkeys for the vertical placement of the subs, the setting should be remembered over sessions...but yes the subs engine doesn't look as sophisticated as KMP as of now, don't be afraid of making feature requests ;)

[oddball]

just a few thing I have noticed when trying this player out.

1. No option to disable internal filter for SD sources (I use ffdshow externally for upscaling SD content). EDIT: I found the resizing option for internal decoder so may not be an issue.
2. No 24P mode. All 23.976FPS or 29.97FPS material is played at their default speed. MPC HC converts 23.976FPS and 29.97FPS into 24FPS
3. Lack of display switching (Switching display to 50Hz for 25FPS material).
4. Using MadVR causes instant player lockup and has to be killed in Task Manager.
5. No option to automatically set subs to 720P resize like in MPC HC? I guess I will have ot guesstimate the font size? How do es that work for .ass subs though?
6. No audio delay option? I need a 125ms delay due to lag in video to my home cinema setup. If I am missing it please point it out to me thanks. BTW I know about the menu for audio sync by 0.1 increments. But I want a box I can enter it and set it and forget it in ms rather than fractional seconds.

Just a few things off the top of my head. But to me the most useful is to disable use of the internal video decoder for SD sources. Without this I find it less usefull than MPC HC.

On the plus side I preferred KMPlayer's subtitle rendering which I assume is the same in PotPlayer.

[leeperry]

1. No option to disable internal filter for SD sources (I use ffdshow externally for upscaling SD content).
2. No 24P mode. All 23.976FPS or 29.97FPS material is played at their default speed. MPC HC converts 23.976FPS and 29.97FPS into 24FPS
3. Lack of display switching (Switching display to 50Hz for 25FPS material).
4. Using MadVR causes instant player lockup and has to be killed in Task Manager.
1. It's entirely possible to disable all the built-in filters, look at the my first screenshot in the OP
2. Only Reclock can do that AFAIK, PotPlayer has a "playback speed" setting, though.
3. Can't comment on MPC as I don't use it, but Reclock can do it via its .vbs script
4. No problem here, everything works like a charm w/ madVR 0.19/0.21 on XP SP3

[Keiyakusha]

leeperry
Sorry, maybe I missed your answer but do you know what does this option in MPC-HC:
options - subtitles - default style - position subtitles relative to the video frame?
is there some analog in PotPlayer that will stop GDI subs (vmr/evr) to be drawn outside of the video frame?
UPD: There is some options that seems to be related to this, but I don't see any effect. Maybe they need some built-in filter to be on... or off :confused:
It is possible to use another mode which is designed for tv-out but I didn't played much with it since as I understand it renders subtitles in every frame, like vsfilter.

[oddball]

Yes I also need subtitles relative to frame.

1. Yes I know that. But I want the internal filter for DXVA and to use the resize option to upscale SD content. If I went all external filters it would mess up that way of working as I could no longer get DXVA as it would not switch between ffdshow DXVA and standard Non-DXVA ffdshow for SD upscaling.
2. ReClock is not the only filter to do 24FPS. MPC HC happily converts 23.976 and 29.97 to 24FPS. When you check the renderer (I use Custom CP) it shows it at that (It fluctuates a little as it tries to match it though and I get occasional dropped frames).
3. Well that's all well and good but ReClock is a BAD way of doing things especially when it comes to bitstreaming and speedup/slowdown of audio (I can hear the packets get dropped when forcing 24FPS).
4. I am using Windows 7 and latest MadVR build. Mind you it never works with MPC HC properly either. Might just be a problem with the latest build though. Not sure.

[stax76]

It seems the the startup is a bit faster then KMP was (maybe it's just my new SSD or something else). Is there support for the MS remote? It seems not even the basic keys work and that keys work in pretty much all players except PotPlayer.

[Havokdan]

How did you get the mkv chapters to work? I press "next" and it jumps to the next file in the directory.

Also:
How do I get the subtitles not to shift down (so that they remain the the video frame)? Or how do I use an external subtitle filter? That's like the one filter that I can't seem to change.
My mouse won't disappear during playback, even though the settings say it should.

In the case of chapters in mkv I'm in the "Filters>" and moved there, because the command "next" by default is used to jump to the next similar file in the folder.

.The commands Alt+I Alt+V and are the commands that let the captions under the picture or on the black stripe in PotPlayer.

. I can use the vsFilter / DirectVobSub in PotPlayer (Actually I prefer to use it), go to "Custom Filter Manager> Add External Filter" then then load the dll "vsFilter", after changing the priority of "DirectVobSub" to "Prefer "worked perfectly here with mkv files with subtitles ass/ssa inside.

And another thing, to me the function to continue the playback where you left off is not working in the latest build, does anyone have this problem?

I'm sorry, my answers are using the Google Translator

[leeperry]

to me the function to continue the playback where you left off is not working in the latest build, does anyone have this problem?
works fine here, I just checked. anyway, the fancy installer of the english version messes up w/ the registry entries...so I always backup/restore the HKCU/DAUM tree
subtitles - default style - position subtitles relative to the video frame?
is there some analog in PotPlayer that will stop GDI subs (vmr/evr) to be drawn outside of the video frame?
not sure, go ask on their board maybe...AFAICR I used to move the vertical alignment of subs for each movie (w/ my mouse wheel+one mouse button pushed).
1. Yes I know that. But I want the internal filter for DXVA and to use the resize option to upscale SD content. If I went all external filters it would mess up that way of working as I could no longer get DXVA as it would not switch between ffdshow DXVA and standard Non-DXVA ffdshow for SD upscaling.
2. ReClock is not the only filter to do 24FPS. MPC HC happily converts 23.976 and 29.97 to 24FPS. When you check the renderer (I use Custom CP) it shows it at that (It fluctuates a little as it tries to match it though and I get occasional dropped frames).
3. Well that's all well and good but ReClock is a BAD way of doing things especially when it comes to bitstreaming and speedup/slowdown of audio (I can hear the packets get dropped when forcing 24FPS).
4. I am using Windows 7 and latest MadVR build. Mind you it never works with MPC HC properly either. Might just be a problem with the latest build though. Not sure.
1. You can create automatic profiles depending on the files dimensions in the "configuration management"
2. A lot of things are half-working in MPC-HC, Reclock does proper speed adaptations...no dropped frames.
3. Reclock should be allowed to work in PCM indeed, otherwise it'll be a packets slaughter
4. No idea, post logs and ask in the mVR thread maybe
It seems the the startup is a bit faster then KMP was (maybe it's just my new SSD or something else). Is there support for the MS remote?
yes, much faster now(I got it on a ramdisk)

I can't tell about any remote support, but I've set some global hotkeys that I trigger from my Griffin Powermate, it works perfectly!

[Astrophizz]

In the case of chapters in mkv I'm in the "Filters>" and moved there, because the command "next" by default is used to jump to the next similar file in the folder.
Yeah I just wish it was easier than that.

.The commands Alt+I Alt+V and are the commands that let the captions under the picture or on the black stripe in PotPlayer.
I've tried those commands/settings but they don't have any effect on the subtitle position for me :(

. I can use the vsFilter / DirectVobSub in PotPlayer (Actually I prefer to use it), go to "Custom Filter Manager> Add External Filter" then then load the dll "vsFilter", after changing the priority of "DirectVobSub" to "Prefer "worked perfectly here with mkv files with subtitles ass/ssa inside.
I've done this too but Potplayers still doesn't load it :(

[oddball]

The lack of specified audio delay in ms is the real deal breaker for me right now unfortunately.

[Keiyakusha]

How often updated beta versions by the link in 1st post? I think my version is latest but when I starting player it says there is some updates... Can I download these updates manually?

[leeperry]

if you update, it'll end up being in Korean...your choice :D

[Keiyakusha]

Hmm. 1st post says "always get the latest beta" so for some reason I thought that this is official English translation. If not, how much official version ahead of the English version?

[leeperry]

the latest english translated beta is 3 days old, so we're not too far behind...I just tried to update and it's trying to install "[1.5.22243] 2010/06/03" apparently.

[Peuj]

I don't find the settings to open PotPlayer with the default video size.
The video is always opened with the current player size (but with correct ratio).
Anyone knows what are the correct settings?

Thanks

[Astrophizz]

As I recall it's Preferences->Playback->Playback Settings->Screen size->Screen size x1.0 (100%)

[Peuj]

As I recall it's Preferences->Playback->Playback Settings->Screen size->Screen size x1.0 (100%)

Thanks !!

[BrollyLSSJ]

Anyone else noticed that you cannot change the size from the subtitles? I tried to manually set it via the options menu and to change it using Alt + PGUP / Alt + PGDN, but both didn't work. I am using build 1.5.22857.

[Peuj]

Anyone else noticed that you cannot change the size from the subtitles? I tried to manually set it via the options menu and to change it using Alt + PGUP / Alt + PGDN, but both didn't work. I am using build 1.5.22857.

It works well for me using Alt + PGUP / Alt + PGDN.
I have the same version.

[BrollyLSSJ]

Strange. it isn't working for me with One Piece, but using TokPlayer it works fine. I even tried starting PotPlayer as admin, but that didn't help either.

[leeperry]

I've been asked in PM to add a procedure to post on their forum, so you can now find it in the second post of this thread...time to make yourself heard! I'm sure the devs only want to improve their player, so it's in everyone's interest :cool:

[Peuj]

I've been asked in PM to add a procedure to post on their forum, so you can now find it in the second post of this thread...time to make yourself heard! I'm sure the devs only want to improve their player, so it's in everyone's interest :cool:

Thanks a lot ! ;)

[JulCat]

Is there some easy way to show the Cover Art of a Music disc in Pot Player??

[Astrophizz]

I've been asked in PM to add a procedure to post on their forum, so you can now find it in the second post of this thread...time to make yourself heard! I'm sure the devs only want to improve their player, so it's in everyone's interest :cool:

Nice! If I can get my cursor hiding issues resolved (can't hide it no matter what I do!) and subtitle fixes (like being able to use vsfliter) then I might make Potplayer my main player :)

[BrollyLSSJ]

I've been asked in PM to add a procedure to post on their forum, so you can now find it in the second post of this thread...time to make yourself heard! I'm sure the devs only want to improve their player, so it's in everyone's interest :cool:
Thank you, that is indeed helpful.

[BrollyLSSJ]

I'm just not sure how to reply within the same thread, I've only found how to reply by creating a "child" thread...so let us know if you figure it out.
I posted a thread now and see 4 buttons on the left: the pencil is to write another thing and the button directly on the right of the pencil translates to reply. But I didn't use it yet. The next button is to edit the post and the one after that to delete your post. The buttons on the right seem to be for the playlist (maybe controlling PotPlayer from the browser or they added music to the website.

[leeperry]

I posted a thread now and see 4 buttons on the left: the pencil is to write another thing and the button directly on the right of the pencil translates to reply.
yes, that's the one...and it creates a child thread, that doesn't bump your original thread.

I've seen some ppl posting within their original thread...I just dunno how? there's a dialog box at the bottom, I tried to type in, but nothing happened.

[BrollyLSSJ]

I seem to have found out to post in the same thread. Take a look at: http://cafe362.daum.net/_c21_/bbs_read?grpid=1E88b&mgrpid=&fldid=AZMV&page=1&prev_page=0&firstbbsdepth=&lastbbsdepth=zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&contentval=000PRzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz&datanum=1577&listnum=20

Is that what you want?

[leeperry]

oh, cool! how do you do that then?

[BrollyLSSJ]

On the right site of the post under mine is a black sign. I clicked that (translated to reply).

[leeperry]

On the right site of the post under mine is a black sign. I clicked that (translated to reply).
this one? http://thumbnails32.imagebam.com/8762/096fc887612299.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/096fc887612299)

I tried to type stuff in that box and click on it, but nothing happened..

[BrollyLSSJ]

No, not that one. I've used your screen and added a black eclipse:

http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/8767/c413d587668248.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/c413d587668248)

Though I wonder what browser you are using as i get the Korean signs and not these "sqares". I am using Opera.

[leeperry]

I use an old version of IE, and don't have any asian pack installed...so first this button: http://thumbnails29.imagebam.com/8768/87ff1087674090.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/87ff1087674090)
so you type in that box, then what? the left button or the right one to submit? http://thumbnails7.imagebam.com/8768/2a0b9287674093.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/2a0b9287674093)

I will update my instructions, and I'd really like to add A/B buttons on the TMT3 skin...I just have no idea how to do that :D

but the TMT3 skin is great coz it's got a one click access to the current filters list if you click on the bottom left, and you can toggle seamless playback w/ the first button..very handy!

[BrollyLSSJ]

Yes, that is how you do it. Though I prepared a small video for it: http://tinypic.com/player.php?v=2v8333r&s=3

[leeperry]

ok, perfect! I will update the instructions then :)

BTW, I've added A/B buttons to the TMT3 skin..but I haven't really figured out how to change the default icons yet(the .dsf file is a renamed .zip file): http://www.mediafire.com/?zdma2izgzyj

http://www.pixelz.fr/0/6/d/93c8e35ac3ee8c0c3f40359df6d93tt.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/0/6/d/93c8e35ac3ee8c0c3f40359df6d93.png)

the "favorites" shortcuts is nice too, I love this skin.

[BrollyLSSJ]

The TMT3 Skin is indeed really beautiful. Though I am using the one packed withing the PotPlayer Release from dbvsupport.net.

[leeperry]

ok, I'm done w/ the TMT3 skin...perfectissimo: http://www.mediafire.com/?nvwmnywjmm2

http://www.pixelz.fr/1/2/d/67a8cdc34395179b08649f74fb4b3tt.jpg (http://www.pixelz.fr/1/2/d/67a8cdc34395179b08649f74fb4b3.png)

the container icons could use a brush up, but I'm gonna add all my fav. videos to the favorites shortcuts for now :D

[BrollyLSSJ]

There is a new translated Beta available:

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23127 Beta

Add subtitles border transparent function
Add can automatically switch the standard audio mode in the Configuration Manager
Add saving subtitles named filmname
Add subtitles Fade effect function
Add Trying to load the subtitle file folder if there are no matching subtitles available
Add a built-in audio renderer (cross-fade function)
Changes in to the individual computer program to play H.264 suspended animation issues
Fixed initialization specific album art problem
Fixed position of each switch configuration state of preservation
Fixed deadlock issue procedural security measures
Fixed adjust speed when broadcast can not be played in the current location
Improved special broadcast buffer mode

[leeperry]

Oh, cool! I didn't get a reply on their forum but they did increase the 100 files limit in seamless playback to 1000 after all...that should do :D

I wish they would treat files opened in seamless playback mode as chapters and allow to use the |< >| buttons to skip between them, but apparently they didn't like the idea.

[BrollyLSSJ]

This new build solved my "pixelation" issues. But it does not let me properly play Videos recorded with CamStudio.

[madshi]

Could someone ask the devs to add support for madVR fullscreen exclusive support? No, madVR does not really support fullscreen exclusive mode yet. However, madVR has a new interface which the media player can invoke to activate madVR fullscreen exclusive mode. It doesn't really work yet, but the feature can already be implemented in the media player and later, when a new madVR version finally implements fullscreen exclusive mode, it will then automatically work with all media players which have implemented support for this feature. MPC-HC already has this implemented. Instructions for devs are contained in the text file "devInfo.txt" shipping with madVR 0.22.

[leeperry]

Could someone ask the devs to add support for madVR fullscreen exclusive support?
done: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1600

[BrollyLSSJ]

It seems the author answered in another thread: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1611

[leeperry]

that was about another report, he did reply about the FS exclusive mode: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1600

[BrollyLSSJ]

Does madVR support DXVA? Though I guess I need to install it to have DXVA, there is no portable version or am I wrong?

[leeperry]

never used DXVA, I'm a CUDA guy(it does wonders to do heavy Avisynth post-processing on high bitrate 1080p btw :D), but you can set PotPlayer to use an .ini file so this will make it portable...it made KMP slower to open than having it in the registry, so you may wanna run benchmarks like I did ages ago: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11629

[BrollyLSSJ]

I know how to make the player portable, but wanted to know if there is a way to make MadVR / Haali also portable. But I guess that isn't possible, atleast I failed to use Haali Video Renderer portable.

[leeperry]

well, keep the install.bat in mVR's folder and it'll be portable. HR does require a full install AFAIK.

Anyway, been playing w/ PotP for a little while now....I can get it to randomly lock up sometimes when seeking in seamless playback mode, but I suspect some of those AVI files to have errors. I'll need to check them before filling a bug report.

I've set PotP to open the window in the middle, but it doesn't work really well..I'll make a report about this, apart from this tiny meaningless detail everything works like a dream for me w/ mVR/Reclock/CoreAVC CUDA & ffdshow A/V in XPSP3 http://forum-images.hardware.fr/images/perso/runner11.gif

[oddball]

Can you also request an audio delay option in milliseconds? To me it's essential. Sure I can use external ffdshow for that but it would be better built directly into the player. I still want to give this player a chance but right now without using ffdshow externally it's of no use to me.

[BrollyLSSJ]

With audio delay do you mean the option usable with right click => audio => audio sync?

[leeperry]

Can you also request an audio delay option in milliseconds?
well, make a feature request on their forum? I've been whining a lot on their forum lately, I'll take it easy for now...and don't mention KMP, it makes them nervous. When pandora.tv took ownership of KMP, there was some very strange posts on the KMP official forum....Half of Korea is not quite a democracy after all ;)

[oddball]

With audio delay do you mean the option usable with right click => audio => audio sync?

That's no good because it does not stick. I know exactly the ms I want to enter. I just need a box like in MPC-HC or ffdshow to enter the amount and for it to remain permanent.

[oddball]

well, make a feature request on their forum? I've been whining a lot on their forum lately, I'll take it easy now...and don't mention KMP, it makes them nervous. When pandora.tv took ownership of KMP, there was some very strange posts on the KMP official forum....Half of Korea is not quite a democracy after all ;)

It's all Chinese to me and seeing as you are already registered and posting there can you request it on my behalf?

[leeperry]

new english translated build available:
PotPlayer 1.5.23234

* Add time limit of subtitle function.
* Add FLAC source filter selection.
* Add FLAC audio codec selection.
It's all Chinese to me
it's not Chinese, it's Korean :p

[johnyboy]

to leeperry:
"1) in KMP, if you open it and click on PLAY it will open the last opened file...any chance you could do it in PotPlayer too please? that's the last time I'll be mentioning *** on your board, I promise!"

For me PotPlayer open last file, if i dont't have any file in the list, potplayer open the dialog window. Maybe you don't have set playback->play from the latest point, in settings. I have my files organized in favorite(albums) and when i select a favorite the player start automate from last file/position from the list. And is remembered when i close the player.

[leeperry]

I did check that option, KMP will open the last opened file...even if the playlist is empty :)

[johnyboy]

For me is more logical in this way :)
If i have a empty list what do you want to play? :) I open a dialog window ....:devil:

[leeperry]

You're probably right, I just took bad habits ^^

I hope they will be OK to add the files opened in seamless playback mode as bookmarks, then I'll add 2 buttons in the GUI and we'll be able to skip on the go :eek:

There's been a new build a few hours ago btw

[oddball]

It took me about 30 mins or more to signup and post on that board :D

[leeperry]

OMG, so cool!!! the feature I've always craved to see in KMP is now right there in PotP :cool:

You can open up to 1000 files in seamless playback mode, whatever AVI/MPG/MKV..mixed containers are OK, and press the previous/next buttons to skip between them...so cool!
How did you get the mkv chapters to work? I press "next" and it jumps to the next file in the directory.
It should be possible to modify a skin to do what you want...we could modify the TMT3 ff/fast rewind buttons to skip chapters instead, I've asked for the proper commands: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1641

[Razinal]

I just migrated from KMP to PotPlayer and I noticed the thing that really is missing is a 'Recent Files' section, well yeah if I press Play button when there isn't any files in playlist it loads the last file but sometimes I want the previous to last file or the one before it and PotPlayer Lacks it.

Is there some hidden method or skin that can get me 'Recent Files' in PotPlayer ?

Thanks

P.S. : It seems PotPlayer has the same dislike of DirectVobSub that KMP had. Is DirectVobSub going to get embedded into PP?

P.S.S : Is x64 edition of PP is going to be faster than x86 when both are using ffdshow as their decoder (for all codecs) and ffdshow x86 is compiled by ICL11 while the x64 ffdshow is compiled by msvc 2008?

[leeperry]

1. make a feature request

2. the built-in splitters favor the built-in subs engine, just like KMP

I currently use HMS+ffdshow for subs, all is well so far

3. x64 doesn't make much point to me as there's no madVR/Reclock/CoreAVC builds anyway...is there even a x64 PotP version?

[lucamark]

is there even a x64 PotP version?

http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=236

[leeperry]

k, added to the OP then.

[BrollyLSSJ]

That's really nice to offer a x64 build. I thought TokPlayer was the only one with x64 support.

Another new build for the x32 version:

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23260 Beta
Update built-in decoder (to be tested)

[Mixer73]

Hey guys, I just tried PotPlayer and I gotta admit its pretty nicely laid out, and seems to work pretty well out of the box. However for the majority of what I do it doesn't want to work at all, I have DVR-MS files capped from DVB-T which are MPEG2/AC3 typically and it just does not want to play them at all, I get garbled audio and no picture. I couldn't see any way to control splitter for DVR-MS. System is Vista Ultimate 64 so system splitter should be good... I tested a file I have edited to .mpg extension and it played just fine.

Any suggestions?

[leeperry]

I couldn't see any way to control splitter for DVR-MS. System is Vista Ultimate 64 so system splitter should be good... I tested a file I have edited to .mpg extension and it played just fine.
you could delete all the files in PotP's folder except for the files mentioned in the OP, check what filters are used in MPC-HC for the same files and force them manually in PotP: http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/3647/33664105.th.png (http://img84.imageshack.us/f/33664105.png/)

dunno why the extension change helps, though...but you could make an automatic profile based on extension then: http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8138/70376361.th.png (http://img138.imageshack.us/f/70376361.png/)

You could use MPC-HC x64's standalone filters...you may also wanna update your filters list manually: http://img806.imageshack.us/img806/6321/12179997.th.png (http://img806.imageshack.us/f/12179997.png/)

[leeperry]

new english translated build:
PotPlayer 1.5.23269

Fixed issues with switching to madVR renderer

[MrRandom]

Hi, hopefully someone will spare the time to help me with simple instructions as i'm new new to this.

Through PotPlayer I would like to use CoreAVC to decode my x264 .mvk rips and ffdshow to decode my XviD .avi rips.

I would also like to use AC3Filter to decode the AC3 and DTS audio tracks on the above rips.

I would like to do this portably from one folder if possible.

So on my desktop I have a PotPlayer folder which contains the files:

PotPlayerMini.exe
PotPlayer.dll
CoreAVCDecoder.ax
ffdshow.ax
ac3filter.ax

Then I load up PotPlayer, browse to preferences/video decoder/filter management and add the three filters through 'add external filters...'

From here I go back to preferences/video decoder and change MPEG2 & XVID to use ffdshow and H264 to use CoreAVC then under preferences/audio decoder change AC3 & DTS to use AC3Filter.

Should this work and is there any way to check it is working and also is there any different ways/programs/settings that may achieve better results?

Thanks.

[leeperry]

Should this work and is there any way to check it is working and also is there any different ways/programs/settings that may achieve better results?
It might work by manually registering each filter(regsvr32 ___.ax") but if I were you, I'd just do full installations of the latest ffdshow tryout(http://www.xvidvideo.ru/ffdshow-tryouts-project-x86-x64), CoreAVC 2.0 and AC3Filter.

[Astrophizz]

I still can't get vsfilter to work with PotPlayer, even if I set it to preferred. It still uses the internal subtitle renderer :(

[leeperry]

even when using a third party splitter? go whine on their forum if need be ;)

[Penge]

I found a Playlist releated bug.
Reproduce:

1: Make at least 2 album and add files to each their.
2: Switch to any album except the "Default Album"
3: Close the player
4: Open any File Manager (I tried with Windows Explorer and Total Commander)
5: Open any file with double click from the file manager.
6: After start playing the previously opened file, open an other file from file manager.
7: All file disappear from the album which has been selected before close player and the size of <albumname>.dpl file change to 40KB in the C:\Users\<username>\AppData\Roaming\PotPlayerMini\Playlist\ path.

[Mixer73]

you could delete all the files in PotP's folder except for the files mentioned in the OP, check what filters are used in MPC-HC for the same files and force them manually in PotP:

It was actually a lot simpler than this, looks like the internal ASF filter is borked, I switched to the system ASF splitters and it is working Ok although it seems to be deinterlacing in the decoder and then agian after, but I'll sort that out.

[leeperry]

just like KMP, PotP has several ASF splitters...some work better than others in specific situations.

[Mixer73]

just like KMP, PotP has several ASF splitters...some work better than others in specific situations.

Performance seems excellent for me, although its defaulted to the Cyberlink MPEG2 decoder and I'd prefer Microsoft... I think I've been spoilt by the easy external filter handling in MPC-HC!

Its odd that it seems so hard to get the best overall solution for watching interlaced MPEG2 ;)

EDIT: Got MS MPEG2 filter going and in NV12 colourspace so I should have auto graphics card deinterlacing, looking good so far.

Is it just me or is all the new funky stuff in MPC-HC lately making it harder to get good performance with something basic like my requirement?

[iSunrise]

new english translated build:
PotPlayer 1.5.23269

Fixed issues with switching to madVR renderer

Not sure what this change is referring to. Does anyone have an idea which bug this change is supposed to fix?

And while we´re at it, build 1.5.23260 fixed PotPlayer hanging while playing a file when the option "Open a file using thread to fix freeze" is unticked. It now works all the time. Great!

[leeperry]

build 1.5.23260 fixed PotPlayer hanging while playing a file when the option "Open a file using thread to fix freeze" is unticked. It now works all the time.
good point! PotP hangs sometimes when I seek within regular AVI files...using HMS seems to fix this problem, but it still happens in seamless playback mode(using the built-in "seamless parser"). I was forced to check that "thread" option, otherwise PotP would hang when switching from windowed mode to FS before the picture showed up. It doesn't happen anymore, I need more time to confirm whether that'll fix my seeking hanging problem too.

PS: humm, it still freezes if I disable it.

[master345]

Have been an avid user of KMPlayer for about a year but it was not without its problems and lack of updates!!

I am so happy to have stumbled upon this player only last week which Ig ot through the links of this site.

I have a few questions:


1) saving all my settings/prefs - i have exported preset to a reg file but dont know if it saves evrything. i fear that i need a potplayer.ini file generated which i cannot find! i have 'store ini file' ticked in general!
How do i save all my prefs/generate and find the ini file?

2)dts spdif comes up out as dd on my amp? im still receiving multi channel but it weird - any ideas?
i havent clicked anything on the passthrough options (DTS, DTS etc) as they make the sound mute when ticked.

all answers will be greatly appreciated.

[BrollyLSSJ]

Normally it directly creates the ini file if you tick it in the options. Atleast I got the potplayermini.ini.

[leeperry]

KMP was slower to open if you used the .ini file, you may wanna compare as I did a while ago: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=11629

I usually backup HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Daum\

Can't comment on AC3/DTS over S/PDIF, but PCM works like a charm...a lot better than in KMP/MPC, which is fantastic :)

[leeperry]

BTW, you can easily modify skins to have 2 buttons to skip between chapters by using "ID_BOOKMARK_PREV" and "ID_BOOKMARK_NEXT". I haven't checked whether that was compatible w/ MKV using HMS yet...prolly not, the built-in MKV splitter might be required.

I've set ±5ms skipping on the mousewheel, so I put those 2 commands on the << >> buttons of the skin..might come in handy, as it should also work on DVD.

[master345]

pcm just gives me 2 channel!

still cant get ini file to generate lol how weird?

do i have to press initialise button next to export presets? what does initialise button do?

i went into regedit and export potplayermii folder as a reg file. this will save everything right?

i have x64 is it worth me using that instead of x86 version? i heard there are issues with codecs etc?

thanks in advance

leeperry i swear i have seen you on anydvd forums hehe

[iSunrise]

good point! PotP hangs sometimes when I seek within regular AVI files...using HMS seems to fix this problem, but it still happens in seamless playback mode(using the built-in "seamless parser"). I was forced to check that "thread" option, otherwise PotP would hang when switching from windowed mode to FS before the picture showed up. It doesn't happen anymore, I need more time to confirm whether that'll fix my seeking hanging problem too.

PS: humm, it still freezes if I disable it.
Hm, never had that seeking problem with AVI files and I´ve got quite a lot of them, even very old and ancient ones (from <2002) which tend to be very problematic with certain combinations of decoders. I am using the built-in decoders and splitters whenever possible, since the built-in stuff really works great (apart from the VC-1 decoder, ffdshow is often more compatible). Also, when using the built-in decoders, the player windows reacts very fluid when I move it across my screen, while, when using ffdshow, the player window is a bit jerky. Not sure what´s the cause for this behaviour, though. But that´s just nitpicking, really.

I also didn´t really believe it at first, but I just checked it again, just to be sure. I don´t need that "open thread fix" option ticked anymore, it´s working totally flawless with madVR 0.23 or other renderers now.

I have not changed anything on my system for about 3 months except for the following:

1) Updated NVIDIA drivers from 197.xx to 258.xx
2) Updated madVR from 0.21 (or 0.22, can´t remember) to 0.23
3) Updated PotPlayer to 1.5 build 23260

Out of curiosity I´ve just tested going back from madVR 0.23 to 0.21 and it still worked with the option unticked. So this is either related to the NVIDIA drivers or (that would make more sense) to the new PotPlayer build. Just FYI, not sure if that helps at all.

[johnyboy]

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23311 Beta

* Improved the inter-word tagging subtitles
* Fixed some MP4 files audio playback problems
* Fixed some damage AVI playback problems

[Keiyakusha]

Hey guys, does anoyne knows if there is any plans in improving internal subtitle engine to support more stuff? I'm not going to bug the dev with 1001 feature request, but maybe he revealed some future plans?

[BrollyLSSJ]

what does initialise button do?
It resets your configuration to default values.
i have x64 is it worth me using that instead of x86 version? i heard there are issues with codecs etc?
The x86 is newer (Atleast the translated version.), therefore i would use the x86 version. Though you can try both.

[leeperry]

Out of curiosity I´ve just tested going back from madVR 0.23 to 0.21 and it still worked with the option unticked.
I have an o/c Q9450 CPU, maybe that's the problem. I'm also on XPSP3...anyway, I always had to enable this option in KMP so nothing has really changed I guess. It's hard to deny that PotP is based on KMP's code, it's funny that they get nervous when I mention KMP on their forum.."don't ask no question, don't hear no lie" :D

pcm just gives me 2 channel!

i went into regedit and export potplayermii folder as a reg file. this will save everything right?

i have x64 is it worth me using that instead of x86 version? i heard there are issues with codecs etc?

leeperry i swear i have seen you on anydvd forums hehe
1) yep, uncompressed stereo PCM is all I personally need...but PotP over S/PDIF is a lot more glitch-resilient than MPC/KMP for me

2) you need to backup the registry key I mentioned in my previous post

3) if you don't need CoreAVC/madVR/Reclock, 64bit might be usable

4) this could be :D

[master345]

im presuming i should keep updates off as one just appeared for PotPlayer1.5.23312 in korean and hung my program on a number of attempts at startup even after click yes.

hmm hopefully we will see this update soon in english!

also i am watching a an avi that is oos on all my other players but pot player automatically syncs it!! how does it do that?!

[BrollyLSSJ]

Build 23312 (x64) and 23326 are available on dvbsupport.net:

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23326 Beta
Fixed a problem that mouse cursor does not hide automatically
Winamp playback video link correction
Fixed a problem that the file can not open if folder has hidden attribute

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23312 Beta

- This version is the latest announced version on http://tvpot.daum.net/video/live/PotplayerSpec.do (in Korean) -

[travolter]

guys.. I see that potplayer have internal ASF source filters that allow fast seeking of WMV files....

There is any way to use/install these filters for use them with other videoplayers?

By default microsoft ASF source filters are used in other of my directshow videoplayers,,.. but I hate them..

[leeperry]

nope, all the splitters are proprietary...I haven't played around w/ them too much yet, but indeed KMP was the only player able to seek quickly in some VOD files I had, when using the "KMP ASF Reader": http://thumbnails24.imagebam.com/8991/ce086b89906426.jpg (http://www.imagebam.com/image/ce086b89906426)

I think "z" wrote a tutorial about splitters in the KMP FAQ section: http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=4&order=desc

[travolter]

Im using KMP only for these splitters too.
KMP and Pot are good players.. but a pity not be able to have more splitter alternatives for ASF files in rest of directshow players.

People think that all HD stuff is contained in MKV/MP4 so matroska/haali is enough... but there are many HD WMV(VC1) content released today and a fast splitter for faster seek of these files is needed.

[leeperry]

So you're saying that the ASF splitters in PotP aren't as good as in KMP? Don't hesitate to post problematic samples on their official forum :)

Well, it's their software...and it's not open-source.

[renanbg]

For me, is the best player ever.
In KMP I could never play a 1080p movie without screen freezing.
PotPlayer played a 1080p with only 0,7% cpu usage and no freezing.
Amazing player.

[Keiyakusha]

For me, is the best player ever.
In KMP I could never play a 1080p movie without screen freezing.
PotPlayer played a 1080p with only 0,7% cpu usage and no freezing.
Amazing player.

PotPlayer is a nice player indeed, but what you says about KMP is not a fault of a player, but weak cpu + fault of the user.

[vvcepheus7]

one question, this program has "album art" option? I need this option for to change my kmp!!

[BrollyLSSJ]

PotPlayer is a nice player indeed, but what you says about KMP is not a fault of a player, but weak cpu + fault of the user.
It is also a fault of the Player. For me build 1436 worked fine for some time, then somehow MKVs were freezing, but mp4 and wmv were find. Now, after upgrading to 1437, MKVs, MP4s and WMVs are freezing. Though they are freezing only with EVR, not with other Renderers. I even tried the videos which were playing fine before. Therefore it is the Players fault as my hardware did not change at all.

Note: while freezing sound continues as it should, only the picture freezes. After clicking the progress bar it continues as it should, until the end of the movie or until it freezes again.

[Keiyakusha]

It is also a fault of the Player. For me build 1436 worked fine for some time, then somehow MKVs were freezing, but mp4 and wmv were find. Now, after upgrading to 1437, MKVs, MP4s and WMVs are freezing. Though they are freezing only with EVR, not with other Renderers. I even tried the videos which were playing fine before. Therefore it is the Players fault as my hardware did not change at all.

"I could never play a 1080p movie" is not the same as "some builds worked, some not, and only mkv was affected". There was some problems with EVR renderer, yes. Maybe they present even now. However it also looks like described problem can be problem with a splitter. If so, this is also can be user's fault.

[leeperry]

The only thing I can say is that the EVR CP in older versions of KMP would randomly freeze the picture if you had the internal video transform filter enabled. But if you ran KMP in SuperSpeed mode, this was solved AFAIK. Too bad the HLSL scaling code in KMP was "borrowed" from MPC and originally written by Haali, and it's got the dreadful "ghost" lines, hah....even in 1:1 btw.

I'm a bit nostalgic of KMP, as I really loved its GUI and the fact that the bottom transport bar didn't disappear after 3 secs...I find this VERY annoying in PotP. But PotP works better in many other areas, such as PCM over S/PDIF...which was a glitch feast in KMP.

[BrollyLSSJ]

"I could never play a 1080p movie" is not the same as "some builds worked, some not, and only mkv was affected".
Yeah, you are right about that. I got that statement wrong.

There was some problems with EVR renderer, yes. Maybe they present even now. However it also looks like described problem can be problem with a splitter. If so, this is also can be user's fault.
I tried it with the given files and with manually updating the codecs, but I have have these problems with both and also with MPCVideoDec.ax. On the other hand I am also using the same MPCVideoDec.ax for PotPlayer and do not have these problems.

[Marcin_gps]

Hi guys,

Two problems here:
1) Subtitles in some cases show up after 30 seconds of dialogs. How come? I believe that depends on subtitle format (?) That's very annoying...
2) ffdshow's dxva won't run. Ffmpeg-mt loads instead even if I set the dxva as prefered in custom filter settings.

Besides madVR and reclock work like a charm - best quality ever :)

Cheers,
Marcin

[Keiyakusha]

Marcin_gps
1) you mean 30 seconds delay? Something was spoken and only after 30 seconds correct subtitle shows up?
2) are you trying to use ffdshows DXVA and madvr at the same time? If so, you can't have both.

[Dexter_prog]

Todat it's telling me that an update and I let it autoupdate but it goes SO slow. After it autoupdated everything was in Chinese :s. How can I get the English update from the site?

[Keiyakusha]

After it autoupdated everything was in Chinese :s.
No, it wasn't.
English version is not official (or semi-official), so no autoupdates...

[Master_T]

Am I the only one having really low audio volume and also bad audio quality on the latest beta? I was using 1.4.20906 before finding this (great) thread and it worked fine, but with the latest build here:

http://www.dvbsupport.net/download/index.php?act=view&id=236

the sound is really crappy... any ideas?

[Keiyakusha]

Is it possible to make PotP stay centred when opening new files + keep constant width + adjust height to match aspect ratio?
Something like autozoom: autofit in MPC-HC. This was also possible in KMP.
EDIT:
Well, maybe not necessarily centered on the screen, but keep position of the player's center. Currently upper-left corner remains in one place when resolution is changed. I can't stand this! :Р

[BrollyLSSJ]

A new translated version is available:

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23336 Beta
Add search function to the play list
Add repeat setting function
Fixed some memory error problem while broadcasting running
Fixed broadcasting sync problem while recording
Fixed a problem while adding files to playlist from explorer

- This version is the latest announced version on http://tvpot.daum.net/video/live/PotplayerSpec.do (in Korean) -

[leeperry]

Is it possible to make PotP stay centred when opening new files + keep constant width + adjust height to match aspect ratio?
nope, it was working great in KMP but it's broken by design in PotP: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1615

[Keiyakusha]

nope, it was working great in KMP but it's broken by design in PotP: http://cafe.daum.net/pot-tool/AZMV/1615
Too bad... But to be honest, I don't understand his answer. "this is default value" "people request 1x size"? There is already 8 possibilities (1X, 2X, fit to screen, etc...) Maybe he never thought about this as optional function?


By the way, I saw someone was able to make vsfilter work inside PotP. Can you share your config for 32bit PotP (*.reg file)?
EDIT: *.ini file also fine :Р

[Astrophizz]

By the way, I saw someone was able to make vsfilter work inside PotP. Can you share your config for 32bit PotP (*.reg file)?
EDIT: *.ini file also fine :Р
I too would appreciate this :)

[Marcin_gps]

Marcin_gps
1) you mean 30 seconds delay? Something was spoken and only after 30 seconds correct subtitle shows up?
2) are you trying to use ffdshows DXVA and madvr at the same time? If so, you can't have both.

1) That's right - 30 second delay after the first line was spoken.
2) Too bad ;/

[RNiK]

Just FYI, PotPlayer can be used as a standalone app (not sure if it's completely portable).

Instead of installing it "executing" PotPlayer1.5.###.exe you can "open" the file via 7-Zip and then "extract" all folders and files (you may skip $COMMONFILES - $PLUGINSDIR - $SYSIDIR folders) in a desired path.

http://a.imageshack.us/img266/3743/potplayer.png (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/potplayer.png/)

:)

[mangkook]

Excuse me. Hopefully someone could help with my situation.

I just move to Windows 7 64 bit. Since there's a build for 64 I decided to try that 3-4 days ago. DXVA is working with EVR. But I found the video rather unsatisfying. then after playing with other renderer DXVA no longer working. Initializing wont do. Today I decided to try latest beta build: 23336. same issue. no DXVA.

I'm using nvidia 8500GT with 258.96 driver. DirectX version 11.
Dual Core E5200 with 4 GB ram

Splayer dxva is working. I'm using dual display setup BTW.

[Keiyakusha]

DXVA is working with EVR. But I found the video rather unsatisfying. then after playing with other renderer DXVA no longer working.
I don't see anything surprising. DXVA should be used with EVR renderer under Vista/7 and VMR9 under XP.
In SPlayer afaik there is no option to choose renderer at all...

1) That's right - 30 second delay after the first line was spoken.
Hmm, I don't know how this can be... Make sure there is no such delay in subtitles itself.

[leeperry]

I don't understand his answer. [..]
Can you share your config for 32bit PotP (*.reg file)?
well, he said "I think play center is useless." I love how KMP is always centered no matter what, too bad.

OK, lemme see what I can do but the reg tree of PotP is full of personal data..

[mangkook]

I don't see anything surprising. DXVA should be used with EVR renderer under Vista/7 and VMR9 under XP.
In SPlayer afaik there is no option to choose renderer at all...


Perhaps I forgot to mention that after playing with various renderer (and after 4-5 times changing forth back / restart player etc) AND back to EVR, DXVA no longer worked. it just using YUY2 output. same with "select automatically".

BTW, I uninstall potplayer, remove all potplayer folder in appdata and remove the pf file, dxva is back after reinstalling.

case closed. however, I wonder what is changed in the back since initializing dodn't fix the problem.

[Keiyakusha]

OK, lemme see what I can do but the reg tree of PotP is full of personal data..

Well, ini file probably also fine (however it contains the same thing)... the only really personal data that I saw is under
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Daum\PotPlayerMini\FileIconList] or [FileIconList] in .ini
which contains full path to potplayer. But you can remove this part completely.
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Daum\PotPlayerMini\RememberFiles] or [RememberFiles] in .ini
also can be deleted (if there is something in this group)

Perhaps I forgot to mention that after playing with various renderer (and after 4-5 times changing forth back / restart player etc) AND back to EVR, DXVA no longer worked. it just using YUY2 output. same with "select automatically".

BTW, I uninstall potplayer, remove all potplayer folder in appdata and remove the pf file, dxva is back after reinstalling.

case closed. however, I wonder what is changed in the back since initializing dodn't fix the problem.

Aha... I never experienced this. Probably some setting wasn't written correctly and was replaced/corrected after reinstalling. PotP also can switch renderers on the fly but not sure if this is the same as changing renderer in preferences. Maybe some conflict...

[Dexter_prog]

Is there anyway for PotPlayer to report video size in ###x### like Kmplayer did when one goes from 1X to any other size (0,5; 1,5; etc)?. I can't find it in the preferences and I get "Screen Size: 1 times" which is not as useful as the proper size in pixels.

Also, the DVD control doesn't seem to be as good as on KMplayer. I was watchin this Family Guy DVD and when one hovers the mouse over the title of an episode it shows a family guy logo letting you know you are about to click on that episode and now it does not show anything. What I mean is that there's no animation in the DVD menus.

[mangkook]

I think I'm giving up on potplayer for a while. dxva is runnging without a problem right now but the output video is awful, toosharp & pixelated. while splayer continues to display very nice dxva output (of the same file).

I've tested both x86 & x64 just to be sure.

anyone got any idea?

[roozhou]

I think I'm giving up on potplayer for a while. dxva is runnging without a problem right now but the output video is awful, toosharp & pixelated. while splayer continues to display very nice dxva output (of the same file).

I've tested both x86 & x64 just to be sure.

anyone got any idea?
What renderer are you using?

[mangkook]

What renderer are you using?

I tried both EVR custom / EVR (Vista/Net)

here I put some sample from anime arakawa under the bridge:

Potplayer dxva EVR

http://img833.imageshack.us/img833/3546/arakawapot.th.png (http://img833.imageshack.us/i/arakawapot.png/)

splayer dxva

http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/3804/arakawasv.th.png (http://img651.imageshack.us/i/arakawasv.png/)

[zegames]

When this player will support officially multi language? This is the best player far.

[BrollyLSSJ]

I think I'm giving up on potplayer for a while. dxva is runnging without a problem right now but the output video is awful, toosharp & pixelated. while splayer continues to display very nice dxva output (of the same file).

I've tested both x86 & x64 just to be sure.

anyone got any idea?
If you used PotPlayer without an external filter you could try to add the MPCVideoDec.ax (Standalone Filter) to PotPlayer and use that the play the video. It should produce the same video quality as splayer, because splayer is built of MPC-HC.

[mangkook]

If you used PotPlayer without an external filter you could try to add the MPCVideoDec.ax (Standalone Filter) to PotPlayer and use that the play the video. It should produce the same video quality as splayer, because splayer is built of MPC-HC.

Thank you. It works! at first i was mistakingly using wrong 64bit MPCvideoDec.ax. after reverting to 64bit potp the filter works. :thanks:

I guess I still having nightmare of trying to use MPCvideoDec.ax with Kmplayer before.



However I'm still trying to figure out what exactly to do to get my embedded subtitles to display within video and not on the black bar (when I'm using my 4:3 monitor)

sometimes switching : subtitles>display on video works.. sometimes wont

[Keiyakusha]

However I'm still trying to figure out what exactly to do to get my embedded subtitles to display within video and not on the black bar (when I'm using my 4:3 monitor)

sometimes switching : subtitles>display on video works.. sometimes wont
There is no direct way to do so with GDI subs. It "sometimes works" when you have ass subs and set PotP to override ass styles. Alternatively you can make PotP to draw subs in every frame (like vsfilter) by setting "TV out"

[Astrophizz]

The "TV out" setting doesn't fix that for me :(

[Keiyakusha]

With TV out subs still on black borders? Well, maybe try to uncheck "display side in black if available".

[Dexter_prog]

Is there anyway for PotPlayer to report video size in ###x### like Kmplayer did when one goes from 1X to any other size (0,5; 1,5; etc)?. I can't find it in the preferences and I get "Screen Size: 1 times" which is not as useful as the proper size in pixels.

Also, the DVD control doesn't seem to be as good as on KMplayer. I was watchin this Family Guy DVD and when one hovers the mouse over the title of an episode it shows a family guy logo letting you know you are about to click on that episode and now it does not show anything. What I mean is that there's no animation in the DVD menus.
anyone?

[leeperry]

@Dexter_prog: if something doesn't work as you want, you can always hop on their forum and ask if they'd consider adding the features you want...their forum is where the party's at :)

BTW, there's a new beta that adds an "open centered" option, but it doesn't really work...I've filled a bug report about it. It requires registration: http://www.sat-universe.com/showpost.php?p=646265&postcount=19

[BrollyLSSJ]

There is an update available:

Daum PotPlayer 1.5.23408 Beta
Add move video window to screen center while starting playback
Add retain subtitles bottom margin feature
Add directly save DHTV stream
Fixed invalid argument error problem that occured in some computer
Fixed some VC-1 encoded video playback that can not be decoded with DMO
Fixed some problem in DTS and DTS-HD

[lateko]

Could someone confirm if the sub -format (microdvd?) subtitles work ok on version 1.5.23336? In my tests text don't seem to appear on time. Converting to srt solves the problem.

[Marcin_gps]

Hmm, I don't know how this can be... Make sure there is no such delay in subtitles itself.

I'm 100% positive that there is no delay - source txt show it right (MPC as well).

->lateko
Skip 30 sec. starting from first 'words' and see what'll happen.

[zegames]

How to 'rewind' when stop a video? In PotPlayer starting the same video again, will resume from last latest point before to stop (if option is enabled in pref > playback). This is strange, in MPC the stop 'erase' the 'last point'. Well, I hope you guys understood what I said. Hard to explain it in my poor english, lol.

[Roobaj]

Anyone can help me with these two issues?

one: how to make the subtitles show up like MPC HC, see pictures:

http://imgur.com/nBdCA.jpg --> PotPlayer

http://imgur.com/eoItj.jpg --> CCCP latest beta

second: how can you make it play separate OPENING/ENDING files in the same folder?

and oh, is it better to set default video render to AUTO or EVR Custom like MPC HC?

thanks.

[Unity]

second: how can you make it play separate OPENING/ENDING files in the same folder?


I'm using haali as an external filter. (look in the preferences)
You set haali for playing MKV , and then you can use ordered chapter like in MPC HC.

[Roobaj]

Can you please give me step by step directions? very noob at this.

[Unity]

You have to go in the preferences then :

-> filter control
-> Source/Splitter
->then you click on filter management ( on the lower right )
-> Add registered filter
-> select all the haali stuff.
-> click OK.

Now in the source filter list , you can choose haali media splitter for matroska.

And you are done.

Anyway Pot seems to be lacking for ass subtitle support.
I don't see some karaoke , i'm able to see in mpc hc for example.

[Roobaj]

I see no Haali or Direct Vobsub for that matter, perhaps because CCCP is 32bit only and I am using PotPlayer 64bit version?

[Keiyakusha]

Oh I just saw new option "Place video window on the center of the screen". Currently it works weird but overall it looks like workaround for behavior when player has fixed upper-left corner instead of fixed center. Actually I'm sad to see this option because with it there is much less chances to see proper auto-fit (like in KMPlayer with selectable size of the window or MPC-HC without selectable size).

[leeperry]

yes this option is completely broken...I've disabled it.

[magma_blaziken]

I got some nice icons here

http://www.fileserve.com/file/zw3xxbS

This site won't let me share them earlier as i needed to wait 5 days b4 posting
and almost completely foget.
These icons are better than the original 1 just replace the the same dll in the folder
Backup if you think the original is worth keeping
Got this from some Chinese/Korean site i think (who cares?)

[zegames]

I got some nice icons here

http://www.fileserve.com/file/zw3xxbS

Useless, I'm using potplayer x64.