View Full Version : The oldest dialog box in Windows 7
benwaggoner
4th August 2009, 14:46
This was kind of an incredible thing to see in Windows 7.
Radius turned into Digital Origin ten years ago, was bought by Media 100, merged with Terran Interactive, and its remnants sold to Discreet, now Autodesk.
Yet this dialog lives on 14 years after it was created.
kieranrk
4th August 2009, 15:20
Is this one (http://bink.nu/photos/news_article_images/images/13552/original.aspx) no longer in W7?
avivahl
4th August 2009, 16:08
Is this one (http://bink.nu/photos/news_article_images/images/13552/original.aspx) no longer in W7?
They removed it. :)
Kurtnoise
4th August 2009, 17:01
http://uppix.net/4/f/9/be05c22a500fbdfed5e714a9b90a9.png (http://uppix.net/4/f/9/be05c22a500fbdfed5e714a9b90a9.html)
benwaggoner
4th August 2009, 17:29
http://uppix.net/4/f/9/be05c22a500fbdfed5e714a9b90a9.png (http://uppix.net/4/f/9/be05c22a500fbdfed5e714a9b90a9.html)
Your victory, sir. Wow.
At least I can see why people might still need a Cinepak decoder. But Video 1? I've been doing this stuff way too long, and I don't think I ever made a Video 1 file for a real project.
This and Apple Video were what we dropped like a burning ball of tar once we had computers fast enough for Cinepak :).
LoRd_MuldeR
4th August 2009, 18:45
As far as I know M$ removed those old "legacy" Codecs once (think it was WinXP SP-1), which resulted in various applications being broken.
So they shipped the Codecs again with the next Service Pack and via Hotfix. Hope they won't do the same mistake again.
Probably the sources were lost over the years, so M$ simply ships the antiquated binary that they have ;)
Not to forget that Myst and Riven use Cinepak :D
benwaggoner
4th August 2009, 20:51
As far as I know M$ removed those old "legacy" Codecs once (think it was WinXP SP-1), which resulted in various applications being broken.
So they shipped the Codecs again with the next Service Pack and via Hotfix. Hope they won't do the same mistake again.
Probably the sources were lost over the years, so M$ simply ships the antiquated binary that they have ;)
I don't know that anyone outside of Radius had the source code.
Although the creator of Cinepak is now the CTO of Microsoft MediaRoom, so I suppose maybe we do have it after all :).
Not to forget that Myst and Riven use Cinepak :D
I'm sure there are tens of thousands of CD-ROM titles with it. It was really the dominant codec for PC playback from 93-98 or so. Paid my mortage for years.
I was even a beta tester for Cinepak Pro. We used that to great effect on the original Mindstorms training CD-ROM, which included cut scenes and narrative.
Snowknight26
4th August 2009, 22:17
While looking for where I found an even older dialog box, I ran across something funny:
http://i27.tinypic.com/2mhe73n.png
Icons disappear only if you hit escape, not press cancel. :D
http://i26.tinypic.com/aoue61.png
Not as old but close.
slavickas
9th August 2009, 01:45
Your victory, sir. Wow.
At least I can see why people might still need a Cinepak decoder. But Video 1? I've been doing this stuff way too long, and I don't think I ever made a Video 1 file for a real project.
This and Apple Video were what we dropped like a burning ball of tar once we had computers fast enough for Cinepak :).
IIRC Video 1 was quite ok for screen capturing, and even you could Zip avi quite alot after that :)
LoRd_MuldeR
9th August 2009, 01:52
If you ever get a significant compression with ZIP (or a similar achiever) on a compressed video file, this means that the video compressor used failed horribly with entropy coding...
slavickas
9th August 2009, 20:11
well yeah, but like I said Video 1 was really quite good compressing screen capture, off course just windows, no fancy wallpaper or photoshop :)
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