having trouble with new bluray discs

[matthew08]

ok so i have been ripping my bluray movies lately. I have successfully encoded I am Legend and House of Flying Daggers into mkv containers. However, I made iso's of the Matrix and Yes Man. AnyDVD wont rip these discs, and I cant find the keys to them. Using dumpvid with the mounted image to a virtual drive just freezes. I realize it is brute forcing and will take some time but i have left it overnight to no success. please help me by showing me the easiest tools to decrypt the newest copy protected discs.

[setarip_old]

Hi!

Use "MakeMKV" instead...

[matthew08]

nope its not working. on both of them it says "cant read AACS VID from disc - most likely current aacs host certificate is revoked by your drive. the volume key is unknown for this disc - video cant be decrypted"

[Peer van Heuen]

ok so i have been ripping my bluray movies lately. I have successfully encoded I am Legend and House of Flying Daggers into mkv containers. However, I made iso's of the Matrix and Yes Man. AnyDVD wont rip these discs, and I cant find the keys to them. Using dumpvid with the mounted image to a virtual drive just freezes. I realize it is brute forcing and will take some time but i have left it overnight to no success. please help me by showing me the easiest tools to decrypt the newest copy protected discs.

AnyDVD HD decrypts and "rips" every single blu-ray disc known, so you must be using a terribly outdated version.

[matthew08]

isnt there any other (free) way to decrypt these?

[Doom9]

Let me paint you a picture:
Fox / MGM (and in the future Paramount) use BD+. At present, AnyDVD HD is the only program to reliably remove that (there's a certain lag between the first people getting a disc and AnyDVD HD being updated - but there's one single disc (@edit: oops.. it appears there are two discs now) they cannot handle right now). Effort to bring the open source BD+ debugger to handle the most recent titles appears at a stall.
Every new disc uses the latest keys (MKBv12), for which no processing keys have been released - ruling out DumpHD and Blu-ray disc ripper. MakeMKV has MKBv12 keys, however it doesn't make 1:1 copies but instead just dumps the contents to MKV files, which may not be what you're looking for.

Those are your options. If you want it all, you have to pony up money or participate in the efforts to handle BD+ and find new processing keys.

[matthew08]

crap alright thanks then

[Peer van Heuen]

isnt there any other (free) way to decrypt these?

Well in favor of the assumption that you're abiding by the forum rules, I'll assume that you don't have a blu-ray drive on your PC and are instead pulling images from your PS3.

Otherwise there would be some free ways to get your decryption using the original discs from the PCs blu-ray drive, as long as BD+ is not involved.

But in the long run and if you really want to rip and decrypt the latest bluray discs of any kind (including BD+), there will be no free lunch served here either. At the moment there isn't even a real payware alternative to AnyDVD HD at that matter (sorry for the ad character of that statement, but I'm a little proud of that fact).

Keeping up with BD protections requires a huge amount of work and for a freeware solution to exist that really keeps up, you'd need a bunch of talented, unemployed computer nerds devoted to that task only and having enough spare money to buy the required material.
I'll leave the calculation of the odds for that to you, since it would be rather speculative :)

I personally disapprove of people wanting to get movies for free that cost a few ten to hundred million in production.
Looking for free software on the other hand is OK, as long as the software was intended to be free.
But if you want free software you'll usually have to live with spending some of your lifetime getting it to work in the first place (which usually more than weighs out the advantage of the price). And then most of it will still work unsatisfactory.

But that's all for anyone to choose by himself...

[Peer van Heuen]

[...] - but there's one single disc (@edit: oops.. it appears there are two discs now) they cannot handle right now).

You can pretty safely wind that back down to 1 again :)
And the remaining disc (a pure Scandinavian version) is not really a protection issue but rather some dumbness of mine...

[matthew08]

Well in favor of the assumption that you're abiding by the forum rules, I'll assume that you don't have a blu-ray drive on your PC and are instead pulling images from your PS3.


I personally disapprove of people wanting to get movies for free that cost a few ten to hundred million in production.


Thanks for your help, I honestly appreciate it. Let me just state though that I am in fact ripping my own bd movies from my ps3, I thought that would be obvious seeing how it would be stupid to download iso's of movies and then have to decrypt them myself...

Could you please explain what you meant about decrypting movies (w/out BD+) if I have an actual PC bd drive? I am considering getting one soon now that the prices are down and writing speeds are up

[lchiu7]

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Every new disc uses the latest keys (MKBv12), for which no processing keys have been released - ruling out DumpHD and Blu-ray disc ripper. MakeMKV has MKBv12 keys, however it doesn't make 1:1 copies but instead just dumps the contents to MKV files, which may not be what you're looking for.

A couple of points on this

1. You're correct that no MKBv12 processing keys have been released but for one title at least, the keys for it have been discovered and posted here. It's just the process for finding the key I understand is not automatic and probably more science than art.

2. MakeMKV does appear to process MKBv12 keys but if the title also has BD+ then it cannot handle it. I have tried MakeMKV but the results were not satisfactory so for me, if I encounter a MKBv12 title, I watch it the old-fashioned way, on the PS3.

[Peer van Heuen]

Thanks for your help, I honestly appreciate it. Let me just state though that I am in fact ripping my own bd movies from my ps3, I thought that would be obvious seeing how it would be stupid to download iso's of movies and then have to decrypt them myself...

Yes, I don't think anyone downloads protected ISOs for further processing, but a very common scenario is rented or borrowed blu-rays where the protected ISOs get saved away for later processing (and I have to say, that I personally feel that this procedure is on a somewhat gray spot...)

Could you please explain what you meant about decrypting movies (w/out BD+) if I have an actual PC bd drive? I am considering getting one soon now that the prices are down and writing speeds are up

I forgot about the fact that MKB12 is not out in the open, so I'll have to back off that statement partially.
What I was about is: if you don't have the discs actual volume key, you need the original disc to obtain the volume id (in order to calculate the volume key...).
An ISO won't give you that.
And to obtain that you either need some piece of software that
can do a full authentication with your drive or a sniffer that will monitor bus traffic while a legit player does that for you (I don't want to start about free software here again, but that's how it is).

I suggest, you get yourself AnyDVD HD and you're good.
And since AnyDVD already "knows" nearly all blurays, it will close to always handle ISOs without requiring the original.
And it does that all in the background without a single click or command.
I think we even have some discount (20%?) at the moment.

[matthew08]

well is there anyone who knows or someplace i could find the vuk's of yes man and the matrix?

[Doom9]

oh no you didn't. asking for keys is prohibited (https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1213133#post1213133).

[matthew08]

oh, sorry. didnt know that. i just assumed but i do suppose yall have a ton of people asking so i understand.