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Delta2
2nd May 2009, 17:40
That's very funny

In my company all internet access is filtered thru WebSense software

Doom9 has the most strictest rules about warez, hacking and that stuff as I know, but believe me or not it is catalogued as an Hacking Site

funny, that crap Websense get me nuts

Razorholt
2nd May 2009, 17:53
Well, I think there are several posts here that explain how to crack DRMs... Isn't it hacking?

Wombler
2nd May 2009, 19:18
That's very funny

In my company all internet access is filtered thru WebSense software

Doom9 has the most strictest rules about warez, hacking and that stuff as I know, but believe me or not it is catalogued as an Hacking Site

funny, that crap Websense get me nuts

Same in my work too although I'm not sure what they're using to filter the web addresses.

The funny thing is though that although the main webpage is blocked, I can still go directly to the forums without any problem.:rolleyes:


Wombler

burfadel
3rd May 2009, 10:19
That essentially makes any search engine, software site, (not that you should be downloading at work anyway :D), and online encyclopaedia's hackers sites too!

LoRd_MuldeR
3rd May 2009, 19:08
I wonder how long I will be able to access Doom9 from my German ISP, now that all major German ISP's agreed on a governmental-controlled DNS filter :scared:

Of course the official version says that they'll only block "child abuse" sites, but we all know what is going to happen :rolleyes:

The most scary thing is that any attempt to access one of the "blocked" domains will be logged and may be used as the initial suspicion to sue people...

https://www.mz-web.de/ks/images/mdsBild/1225104629697m.jpg

lych_necross
4th May 2009, 08:19
@Lord_MuldeR, thank goodness for anonymous proxy servers...

Wombler
4th May 2009, 12:39
@Lord_MuldeR, thank goodness for anonymous proxy servers...

Where I work, they've blocked access to those as well. :(


Wombler

Who Am I ?
4th May 2009, 12:47
Where I work, they've blocked access to those as well. :(


Wombler

codeen :devil:

http://codeen.cs.princeton.edu/

Doom9
4th May 2009, 12:50
They recently installed a proxy with filtering at my workplace too - I don't visit my site while at work (unless I'm working at home where I use my private PC to do so) but I've just checked and so far no blocks are in place.

And should't it be "Big Schäuble and Ursula are watching"? Or rather, Big Schäuble is watching and Big Ursula is blocking.

Audionut
4th May 2009, 14:20
At my work they block everything, then allow as needed.

LoRd_MuldeR
4th May 2009, 18:00
And should't it be "Big Schäuble and Ursula are watching"? Or rather, Big Schäuble is watching and Big Ursula is blocking.

You are right, but I couldn't find that pic ;)

@Lord_MuldeR, thank goodness for anonymous proxy servers...

You can expect these to be blocked as well - at least the popular ones. Otherwise all the filtering bullsh*t would be totally useless.

Maybe an encrypted VPN connection will be the only workaround...

Henrikx
4th May 2009, 18:11
You are right, but I couldn't find that pic
Take a look at your frontdoor... :)

http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/s7163g182_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=s7163g182.jpg)

or your favorite Search engine
http://www.imgbox.de/users/public/thumbnails/h8083m182_t.gif (http://www.imgbox.de/?img=h8083m182.jpg)

sumawo13
4th May 2009, 23:01
I noticed this a week or so ago when I was attempting to access the forum at a hospital.

I really don't consider this a 'hacking' forum.

movmasty
5th May 2009, 04:00
That's very funny

In my company all internet access is filtered thru WebSense software

Doom9 believe me or not it is catalogued as an Hacking Site

I always suspected that :devil:


btw use google to hack these restrictions

movmasty
5th May 2009, 04:01
Same in my work too although I'm not sure what they're using to filter the web addresses.

The funny thing is though that although the main webpage is blocked, I can still go directly to the forums without any problem.:rolleyes:


Wombler

because we,the forum, are not hackers, it is Doom himself.

movmasty
5th May 2009, 04:04
I wonder how long I will be able to access Doom9 from my German ISP, now that all major German ISP's agreed on a governmental-controlled DNS filter :scared:

Of course the official version says that they'll only block "child abuse" sites, but we all know what is going to happen :rolleyes:we are children too :o


The most scary thing is that any attempt to access one of the "blocked" domains will be logged and may be used as the initial suspicion to sue people...

https://www.mz-web.de/ks/images/mdsBild/1225104629697m.jpg
Open dns??

movmasty
5th May 2009, 04:07
Big Schäuble and Ursula are watching.
Who???

patul
5th May 2009, 05:25
You guys should sometime look into the anonimity network solutions, like Tor for example :devil:

lych_necross
5th May 2009, 08:40
Well, there is always Darknet/Freenet, but I don't think it would fly in a corporate environment. Codeen looks interesting, but an encrypted VPN would be the best option to bypass overly restrictive filters.

ChronoCross
5th May 2009, 20:58
...or perhaps people should stop browsing doom9 from work and actually do work? Technically the filter isn't really a mis-categorization as this is indeed a form of hacking forum. Just the term hacking is used too generally in this particular case. The filter should probably only be filtering harmful hack sites rather than hack sites in general.

laserfan
5th May 2009, 22:23
...or perhaps people should stop browsing doom9 from work and actually do work?Ha, ha! Good one! You mean "get productive"? And get the U.S. economy moving again? Ain't gonna happen, people are caught in the web! :devil:

Hopefully before getting laid-off (or fired) everyone will have saved enough to be able to hire a Chinese tutor for their kids (they're gonna need to speak the language). No, wait, they need the money for their high-speed ISPs. And their digital cable. And their cellular service. And the HDTVs they need in every room. And... :p

Delta2
7th May 2009, 14:26
Well, after a little investigation I managed to bypass that websense

and works like a charm :)

Doom9
8th May 2009, 23:23
...or perhaps people should stop browsing doom9 from work and actually do work?I think studies have shown that some surfing actually increases productivity. I tend to separate private and professional pretty strictly, but when time permits I visit forums that have something to do with what I do at work and help out... intellectual challenges help keep your mind fit after all. And whether people take a coffee break, a smoking break, a bathroom break or a surfing break - a break is a break.

blutach
12th May 2009, 01:27
As much as we love Doom9's forum, we need to recognise that it is the company's assets (PC, Internet connections, routers etc) and time we are using.

I saw a post at a forum the other day where a fellow came on complaining that he lost his job for doing something a bit different (installing a prog on a company computer against company policy). He then had the gall to blame the product for giving him away! Companies are serious about this stuff. In most cases, you agree to their Internet and computer policy in writing when you join the company, so there is little or no come back.

My advice is to surf from home.

Regards

ron spencer
12th May 2009, 02:59
most companies have block internet time....that is unlimited, so that is not a cost anyway (unless mom and pop) and routers are there anyway...so no matter; surf till you drop LOL.

websense easy to break anyway for doom9....doom9 has https, and websense lets all https in anyway

DigitAl56K
12th May 2009, 03:43
My advice is to surf from home.

My advice is if you're going to work under such conditions make sure it's worth it. When companies start implementing such policies and enforcing them it means that the relationship between employees and managers is lacking the trust and respect where individuals can be expected to manage their work/life balance, meet their commitments, and perform to expectations without strong rules and harsh discipline. There will always be the bad apples, but to treat everyone equally is to treat everyone as if they may be a bad apple.

setarip_old
12th May 2009, 05:34
@DigitAl56K

Hi!

In light of the fact that the company one is employed by:

A) Owns the computers, and

B) Pays its employees for their time at work,

said company has the right to determine whether its employees are using work hours and equipment for the best interest of the company.

Unless you're a professional athlete, no one should be expected to pay you to "play" - "Trust" and/or "respect" are not significantly work related words...

blutach
12th May 2009, 06:45
@DigitAl56K

And you can forget about trust - I know of situations where senior managers - guys on a few hundred thousand plus perks - have lost their job for prohibited surfing and downloading (in this case, kiddie porn!).

Whilst on the subject of downloading, the MPAA have easy targets for firms which have no blocking in place. What company wants to be on the receiving end of that?

It's not often the previous poster and I are in agreement, but this time we are.

Regards

setarip_old
12th May 2009, 18:21
It's not often the previous poster and I are in agreementVirtually never would be more accurate ;>}

DigitAl56K
12th May 2009, 22:10
[Color=Blue]In light of the fact that the company one is employed by:

A) Owns the computers, and

B) Pays its employees for their time at work,

said company has the right to determine whether its employees are using work hours and equipment for the best interest of the company.

Companies employee people, not machines. Perhaps it's a different case if you're an hourly employee. Otherwise your relationship with your employees is going to dictate how often they go above and beyond for you. Employ happiness affects performance, plain and simple. The only thing you can do when you have a bunch of unhappy employees is make them compete against other unhappy employees for their jobs. But some companies are like that I suppose, where you are just another cog in the machine. And again, I wouldn't want to work at such a place.

setarip_old
12th May 2009, 23:11
@DigitAl56K

Suffice it to say, different industries, different businesses, and different size businesses have different requirements - including the work environment.

As a business owner, I very likely have a different perspective than that of many of the other members of the Doom9 Forum...

rica
12th May 2009, 23:45
Hi guys,
are you awared big brother is everywhere for some time?
Still there are some recipies anyway:D

rica
13th May 2009, 00:02
As a business owner, I very likely have a different perspective than that of many of the other members of the Doom9 Forum...

Sorry for asking this but i must ask:
how do you find this time for posting to doom9 forum as a business owner; you have a lot of posts here, don't you? (appreciated btw)

PS. Most probably i'll have 4000 posts here in four years, not much (!) BTW i'm not a business owner.

setarip_old
13th May 2009, 01:56
@rica

Hi!

1) Effective use of time - and multitasking

2) Application of the theory of management that also proved successful to others such as Ronald Reagan - "You don't have to know how to do everything, you just have to hire (and, sometimes, breed) good managers who do (know how to do everything)

3) Be at a stage of life (both my businesses stages of life and my rather advanced stage of life) where the businesses no longer require my "hands-on" involvement on a daily basis

I should add that, like Thomas Alva Edison, rather than "getting eight hours sleep" each night, I tend to take several 10-20 minute "catnaps" during the course of a day

And the list goes on...

rica
13th May 2009, 02:10
where the businesses no longer require my "hands-on" involvement on a daily basis[/B]

Great!
This is the recipy of being succesfull in this world.
How happy you are.
Then why don't you think there might be some people -some of your stuff- who might use their free time effectively like you?

setarip_old
13th May 2009, 02:16
Then why don't you think there might be some people -some of your stuff- who might use their free time effectively like you?1) I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking

2) More importantly, this is now way off topic

rica
13th May 2009, 02:23
1) I'm afraid I don't know what you're asking

2) More importantly, this is now way off topic

1):D

2):sly:

Take care!

DigitAl56K
13th May 2009, 03:13
1) Effective use of time - and multitasking

Wow, it is amazing to me that you have acquired such magical powers of time management, yet you believe your employees have not ;)

Back on topic: I'm in ur forum, editing my posts. Mwuhahaha :)

blutach
14th May 2009, 02:07
Back on topic: I'm in ur forum, editing my posts. Mwuhahaha :)You must be mistaken - this is not setarip_old's forum - last time I looked, it was Doom9's.

Regards

BigDid
14th May 2009, 03:11
You must be mistaken - this is not setarip_old's forum - last time I looked, it was Doom9's.
Regards
Hi,

It could be the poster was mistaken by the tremendous number of posts from Setarip (more than 12.000) which is even more than Doom9 (10.000+) ;)
Wait, in this case it should belong to Neuron2 (15.000+) :)

Back on topic:
...
btw use google to hack these restrictions
Care to elaborate how using google can do that?

Did

Sharktooth
14th May 2009, 17:32
uhm..."using"... google cache.
however he probably meant to use google to look for a solution.

rica
14th May 2009, 22:09
Here you are:

http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1341/setarip.th.png (http://img7.imageshack.us/my.php?image=setarip.png)

_ _ _ _ _

Sharktooth
15th May 2009, 03:15
http://www.opendns.com/