Backing up Wall-E as Movie only?

[yonexsp]

Has anyone managed to get this movie to work? It keeps failing for me with an error regarding not being able to find the audio tracks. It does full disc, but then the player I want to use only supports movie only, grrrrr :(

[jdobbs]

DVD Rebuilder or BD Rebuilder? I've done movie-only with BD Rebuilder. In fact it is one of the test discs I keep on my hard drive.

[datman]

Has anyone managed to get this movie to work? It keeps failing for me with an error regarding not being able to find the audio tracks. It does full disc, but then the player I want to use only supports movie only, grrrrr :(

that was my very 1st encode and had no problems

[Furiousflea]

Has anyone managed to get this movie to work? It keeps failing for me with an error regarding not being able to find the audio tracks. It does full disc, but then the player I want to use only supports movie only, grrrrr :(

long shot, but have you tried selecting the "alternate playlist" from the mode menu in BDRB?

[setarip_old]

@yonexsp

You might want to try an out of the ordinary experiment that involves other-than-the standard (NOT using AnyDVDHD) ripping, as follows:

1) Use "MakeMKV" to rip the "WALL-E" BluRay disc. When the initial analysis has been completed, you'll be able to readily identify the main movie. UNcheck ALL titles other than the main movie title - And then click on the "+" to the left of the movie-only title to see all of the title's video, audio, and subtitles streams - and UNcheck those that you don't wish to keep). Then press "Start" and "MakeMKV" will rip your movie-only title.

2) Load the MKV file into "tsMuxeR" and select "BluRay". Click on start.

You should (as I did) now have a BluRay "movie-only" package that is perfectly acceptable to "BD-RB" - and will be properly processed.

[Rumbah]

I just wanted to do a backup of the European BD of this movie (English, German, Italian) and I'm running into the problem, too.

When trying the BD with AnyDVD as source and use the movie only option, BD Rebuilder throws an error:

http://img19.imageshack.us/img19/3354/unbenannt1vyb.png (http://img19.imageshack.us/my.php?image=unbenannt1vyb.png)

Eac3to shows the following analysis:
1) 00083.mpls, 1:38:42
[0+68+1+69+2+70+3+71+4+72+5+73+6+74+7+75+8+76+9+77+10+78+11+79+12+80+13+81+14
+82+15+83+16+84+17+85+18+86+19+87+20+88+21+45+50202+92+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

2) 00082.mpls, 1:38:42
[0+46+1+47+2+48+3+49+4+50+5+51+6+52+7+53+8+54+9+55+10+56+11+57+12+58+13+59+14
+60+15+61+16+62+17+63+18+64+19+65+20+66+21+67+50202+91+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

3) 00120.mpls, 1:38:25
[93+46+1+47+2+48+3+49+4+50+5+51+6+52+7+53+8+54+9+55+10+56+11+57+12+58+13+59+1
4+60+15+61+16+62+17+63+18+64+19+65+20+66+21+67+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

4) 00121.mpls, 1:38:25
[93+68+1+69+2+70+3+71+4+72+5+73+6+74+7+75+8+76+9+77+10+78+11+79+12+80+13+81+1
4+82+15+83+16+84+17+85+18+86+19+87+20+88+21+50199+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

5) 00119.mpls, 1:38:25
[93+24+1+25+2+26+3+27+4+28+5+29+6+30+7+31+8+32+9+33+10+34+11+35+12+36+13+37+1
4+38+15+39+16+40+17+41+18+42+19+43+20+44+21+45+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

6) 00081.mpls, 1:38:12
[0+24+1+25+2+26+3+27+4+28+5+29+6+30+7+31+8+32+9+33+10+34+11+35+12+36+13+37+14
+38+15+39+16+40+17+41+18+42+19+43+20+44+21+45+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

7) 00116.mpls, 1:38:12
[0+46+1+47+2+48+3+49+4+50+5+51+6+52+7+53+8+54+9+55+10+56+11+57+12+58+13+59+14
+60+15+61+16+62+17+63+18+64+19+65+20+66+21+67+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

8) 00117.mpls, 1:38:12
[0+68+1+69+2+70+3+71+4+72+5+73+6+74+7+75+8+76+9+77+10+78+11+79+12+80+13+81+14
+82+15+83+16+84+17+85+18+86+19+87+20+88+21+50199+50202+23].m2ts
- Chapters, 32 chapters
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

9) 00004.mpls, 00004.m2ts, 0:24:14
- h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (16:9)
- DTS Master Audio, English, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, Italian, multi-channel, 48khz
- DTS, German, multi-channel, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, Italian, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, German, stereo, 48khz
- AC3, English, stereo, 48khz

With details for e.g. title 3:
M2TS, 3 video tracks, 7 audio tracks, 7 subtitle tracks, 1:38:23, 311.701p
1: Chapters, 32 chapters
2: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9)
3: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (20:11)
4: h264/AVC, 480p24 /1.001 (20:11)
5: DTS Master Audio, English, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
(core: DTS-ES, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz)
6: DTS-ES, Italian, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz
7: DTS-ES, German, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 1509kbps, 48khz
8: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz
9: AC3 Surround, Italian, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz
10: AC3 Surround, German, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz
11: AC3 Surround, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbps, 48khz
12: Subtitle (PGS), English
13: Subtitle (PGS), English
14: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
15: Subtitle (PGS), German
16: Subtitle (PGS), Italian
17: Subtitle (PGS), German
18: Subtitle (PGS), English

I hope that helps.

[yonexsp]

@yonexsp

You might want to try an out of the ordinary experiment that involves other-than-the standard (NOT using AnyDVDHD) ripping, as follows:

1) Use "MakeMKV" to rip the "WALL-E" BluRay disc. When the initial analysis has been completed, you'll be able to readily identify the main movie. UNcheck ALL titles other than the main movie title - And then click on the "+" to the left of the movie-only title to see all of the title's video, audio, and subtitles streams - and UNcheck those that you don't wish to keep). Then press "Start" and "MakeMKV" will rip your movie-only title.

2) Load the MKV file into "tsMuxeR" and select "BluRay". Click on start.

You should (as I did) now have a BluRay "movie-only" package that is perfectly acceptable to "BD-RB" - and will be properly processed.

Phew, I hope this isn't indicative of future issues. Heading in this direction is the opposite of 1-Click.

But thx for the info I'll give it a try. I hope BDR add's intelligence to get around those BD movies that are all spilt up.

[jdobbs]

Have you tried the latest version?

[yonexsp]

Have you tried the latest version?

Going to try it in the next 10mins, just saw the new version was posted

[yonexsp]

Have you tried the latest version?

Still fails, even tried alternate movie-only playlsit as well.

[16:15:41] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1_CAN
- Input BD size: 22.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:54.636]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[16:15:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:15:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00091]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[16:15:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[Capsbackup]

Still fails, even tried alternate movie-only playlsit as well.

[16:15:41] BD Rebuilder v0.20.07 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1_CAN
- Input BD size: 22.87 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:54.636]
- Target BD size: 7.72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[16:15:42] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [16:15:42] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00091]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[16:15:43] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

This type of error is usually a set up problem on your end. You need to make sure matroska, WMP11, ffdshow and the proper settings within ffdshow and avisynth are properly installed. If you can't open and play the .m2ts file directly with MPC, this will confirm an improper setup.

[jdobbs]

Usually "Failed to retrieve audio" (especially when it happens instantly --as in your case) means you haven't recreated the directory structure as it is represented in the ZIP file -- and BD-RB can't find TSMUXER. Alternatively it may be possible that the version of TSMUXER included in the last version has some new bugs.

I'm adding some new code in the next version to tell you upfront when required files are missing.

[Rumbah]

I tried the movie with the latest version 0.20.08 an it still gets an error:
-----------------------
[14:02:48]-----------------------
[14:05:30] BD Rebuilder v0.20.08 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1_DEU
- Input BD size: 24,22 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:41.998]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[14:05:31] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [14:05:31] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[14:05:32] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

The same error as with 05 and 07, and I made some backups with 07 and they worked fine, only Wall-E ist problematic. And I can play the m2ts files without a problem in Windows Media Player.

Is there anything I can provide to help fix it? The extracting works fine if I do a full backup.

[DK]

same problem here

[20:26:17] BD Rebuilder v0.20.08 (beta)
- Source: QUACK_D1_DEU
- Input BD size: 24,12 GB
- Approximate total content: [01:38:24.564]
- Target BD size: 7,72 GB
- MOVIE-ONLY mode enabled
[20:26:19] PHASE ONE, Encoding
- [20:26:19] Extracting audio/subs [VID_00093]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
[20:26:19] - Failed to retrieve audio, aborted

[jdobbs]

Will it extract the audio if you try to use TSMXER's GUI? I'm not familiar with that disc... guess I'll have to try and find it.

[DK]

the largest m2ts file in my case is 6.1gb - the entire movie is split into over 100 hundred seperate small parts.

using tsmuxer on the largest file and demuxing it actually works

[Rumbah]

Is the demuxing process in full mode different from the movie only one? Because it works in full backup mode, so it extracts the audio of all the mts files, the error occurs only in movie only mode.

[jdobbs]

It is different, because there may be multiple parts that have to be joined for Movie-Only. If multiple parts exist they are each encoded separately for a full backup.

[yonexsp]

Any update on this?

[setarip_old]

@yonexsp

Did you ever get around to trying the simple, all-freeware workaround I suggested to you in my initial post to this thread?

[yonexsp]

@yonexsp

Did you ever get around to trying the simple, all-freeware workaround I suggested to you in my initial post to this thread?

No, I don't really have the time. Also, I'd like to just use BDR and not go back to the way things were in my youth, with codec packs, and multiple software.

1-Click is what I want. It either works or not. As others pointed out, Full-Disc works, but not movie only. So, maybe when I get some time, but really I love the simplicity of BDR to back-up my BDR onto my HD.

[setarip_old]

Certainly it's your prerogative, although your logic is flawed (there are no additional codecs involved) and you exaggerate the "extra effort" required.

What I proposed you try:

1) Will take but two additional "single clicks" and approximately an additional 1/2 hour

2) Will allow you to determine with certainty whether your problem is with BD-RB or, perhaps, with your original BluRay disc

3) May allow you to successfully (as I did, using this method) make a "movie-only" copy of your BluRay "WALL-E"


BTW - As an alternative, that involves but "one click", for "movie -only", you might want to try the recently arrive "AVCHDCoder"...

[jdobbs]

I've lost this one... I've done WALL-E (Region A) multiple times for movie-only. What's the issue?

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

OP's original post:Backing up Wall-E as Movie only?

Has anyone managed to get this movie to work? It keeps failing for me with an error regarding not being able to find the audio tracks. It does full disc, but then the player I want to use only supports movie only, grrrrr

[Rumbah]

The problem in pictures and seperate TSMuxer demux works:

http://g.imagehost.org/0724/1_52.png (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0724/1_52) http://g.imagehost.org/0754/2_6.png (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0754/2_6)

http://g.imagehost.org/0653/3_7.png (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0653/3_7) http://g.imagehost.org/0569/4_7.png (http://g.imagehost.org/view/0569/4_7)

[Rumbah]

It still does not work with the latest version (May, 31) and the German Wall-E as source.

[jdobbs]

Have you tried using the .META that BD-RB creates from the command line? At least then we can see specifically what error is being encountered.

[setarip_old]

@jdobbs

Hi!

If the German BluRay version of "WALL-E" is similar to the multiple Europen DVD versions of that title, it likely contains a multi-angle at the point when the captain opens a book (At 1 hour 12 to 1 hour 18 minutes, if I remember correctly), whereas the R1 version had no such multi-angle.

If this is the case, would this cause a problem for BD-RB?

[Rumbah]

In the temp WORKFILE directory I get a AUD_00000.meta file with the following content:

MUXOPT --no-pcr-on-video-pid --new-audio-pes --demux --vbr --vbv-len=500
A_DTS, "N:\BDMV\STREAM\00000.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00068.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00001.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00069.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00002.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00070.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00003.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00071.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00004.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00072.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00005.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00073.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00006.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00074.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00007.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00075.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00008.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00076.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00009.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00077.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00010.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00078.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00011.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00079.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00012.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00080.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00013.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00081.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00014.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00082.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00015.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00083.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00016.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00084.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00017.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00085.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00018.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00086.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00019.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00087.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00020.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00088.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00021.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00045.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\50202.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00092.M2TS"+"N:\BDMV\STREAM\00023.M2TS", down-to-dts, track=4352, lang=eng,mplsFile=00083
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And yes, there are some parts of the movie in English, German and Italian but I don't know if it's really multiangle as I think it uses different playlists for the different versions. So all the parts in different languages are in different m2ts files.

[jdobbs]

My Region A copy doesn't have that many PGS streams (it only has three).

[Rumbah]

Well, the subtitles are for:
English
English for the hearing impaired
Italian
German
Director's comment Italian
Director's comment German
Director's comment English

It's quite normal for European discs as there is often only one disc for eastern Europe with all the different languages and subtitles on it (I even saw DVDs with subtitles in 12 different languages).

[DK]

@yonexsp

You might want to try an out of the ordinary experiment that involves other-than-the standard (NOT using AnyDVDHD) ripping, as follows:

1) Use "MakeMKV" to rip the "WALL-E" BluRay disc. When the initial analysis has been completed, you'll be able to readily identify the main movie. UNcheck ALL titles other than the main movie title - And then click on the "+" to the left of the movie-only title to see all of the title's video, audio, and subtitles streams - and UNcheck those that you don't wish to keep). Then press "Start" and "MakeMKV" will rip your movie-only title.

2) Load the MKV file into "tsMuxeR" and select "BluRay". Click on start.

You should (as I did) now have a BluRay "movie-only" package that is perfectly acceptable to "BD-RB" - and will be properly processed.

This actually seems to help.

Numerous versions of BD-RB all failed with the aforementioned error message concerning the audio extraction.

I have now used MakeMKV and was amazed by the output size.

Input ~40GB
Output to MKV files: ~57GB

MKV files were created; 3 of them contain the three main language-versions: English, Italian, German

These main mkv files are all 18.5x gb in size.

In certain scenes there must be "translated" content in either ENG, ITA or GER which show "dubbed" signs or the like so it may be a matter of multiangle with Wall-E.

Right this minute BD-RB 22.02 runs fine with ONE of the mkv turned into BD via tsmuxer again.

Will let you know about the result.

[GaPony]

Could it possibly be the Director's Comments track? I do remember having some problems with that when I was making a copy of WALL-E with other tools, before BD-Rebuilder came onto the scene. Apparently the Director's Comments was the first audio track, and the normal audio track was the second.

[setarip_old]

@DK

Hi!This actually seems to help.
In certain scenes there must be "translated" content in either ENG, ITA or GER which show "dubbed" signs or the like so it may be a matter of multiangle with Wall-E.

Thanks for confirming both of my statements in earlier posts to this thread ;>}

'Tis a shame that the OP is obstinate in refusing to follow my suggestion...

[G_M_C]

My Wall-E had en PiP with director's comment. Might be that those audio-streams (secondary audio-streams) cause the problem.

But as seen from Rumba's first picture, he hasn't chosen one of the secondary audio streams. But it's the only thing i can think of that might cause a problem.

[comdw]

This actually seems to help.

Numerous versions of BD-RB all failed with the aforementioned error message concerning the audio extraction.

I have now used MakeMKV and was amazed by the output size.

Input ~40GB
Output to MKV files: ~57GB

MKV files were created; 3 of them contain the three main language-versions: English, Italian, German

These main mkv files are all 18.5x gb in size.

In certain scenes there must be "translated" content in either ENG, ITA or GER which show "dubbed" signs or the like so it may be a matter of multiangle with Wall-E.

Right this minute BD-RB 22.02 runs fine with ONE of the mkv turned into BD via tsmuxer again.

Will let you know about the result.


I used this method too but unsure which of the three resulting movies to use!? They all look ok but can I be sure which one without watching them?

My disc label is QUACKD1_GBR and I now have title01, title02 and title05 all the same length and size. Anyone know which I should go for?

[DK]

the three version will most likely contain three languages in a similar order as the audio streams are present.

since you can play these mkv files start one after the other and look for scenes where you will find signs on buildings etc which wall-e passes by and see which language they are in.

[comdw]

the three version will most likely contain three languages in a similar order as the audio streams are present.

since you can play these mkv files start one after the other and look for scenes where you will find signs on buildings etc which wall-e passes by and see which language they are in.

Yep, it was exactly that. :thanks:

[yonexsp]

Aside from the workaround, has anyone managed to back this movie up, movie only "1-Click" without getting the audio extraction error?

@jdobbs you mention you did, any specific s/w on your system that migth explain the variance of experience?

[jdobbs]

Aside from the workaround, has anyone managed to back this movie up, movie only "1-Click" without getting the audio extraction error?

@jdobbs you mention you did, any specific s/w on your system that migth explain the variance of experience?Glad you brought this up. I'd been meaning to spend some time on it and see what I could do, but forgot.

[yonexsp]

Glad you brought this up. I'd been meaning to spend some time on it and see what I could do, but forgot.

Awesome!! also thx for putting the HD DVD piece in recently :)

I can't wait to see my copy of Wall-E playing on the HD DVD players I have around the house, not just my BD player in the basement :)

[setarip_old]

@yonexsp

Hi! Awesome!! also thx for putting the HD DVD piece in recently. I can't wait to see my copy of Wall-E playing on the HD DVD playersYou do realize, don't you, that using the BD-RB "hidden setting" for HD-DVD compliance doesn't generate an HD-DVD "package"?

It generates a BluRay "package" that "MultiAVCHD" will convert to an HD-DVD "package" in a matter of 10 to 20 minutes...

[yonexsp]

@yonexsp

Hi! You do realize, don't you, that using the BD-RB "hidden setting" for HD-DVD compliance doesn't generate an HD-DVD "package"?

It generates a BluRay "package" that "MultiAVCHD" will convert to an HD-DVD "package" in a matter of 10 to 20 minutes...

Yup, I do

[yonexsp]

Any news on this? :)

[setarip_old]

What "news" are you awaiting?

[yonexsp]

What "news" are you awaiting?

Read the earlier posts and you will see

[setarip_old]

I've done so - and you seem to be the only poster (to this and another thread) having difficulty generating playable HD-DVDs...

[yonexsp]

I've done so - and you seem to be the only poster (to this and another thread) having difficulty generating playable HD-DVDs...

? It not the HD DVD's that is the issue.

It is the fact that some discs like Wall-E are problematic to encode as movie only.

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@yonesxp

This thread has shifted course in mid-stream (By you, in post #41), so that it appeared that your current interest was in converting to HD-DVDs.

Be that as it may, and now that a couple of months have passed since you originally sought a resolution to your inability to successfully create a "movie-only" BluRay version of "WALL_E", I would once again suggest you use the proven, quick, slightly out of the ordinary method that I detailed for you in my Post #5 in this thread back in April:@yonexsp

You might want to try an out of the ordinary experiment that involves other-than-the standard (NOT using AnyDVDHD) ripping, as follows:

1) Use "MakeMKV" to rip the "WALL-E" BluRay disc. When the initial analysis has been completed, you'll be able to readily identify the main movie. UNcheck ALL titles other than the main movie title - And then click on the "+" to the left of the movie-only title to see all of the title's video, audio, and subtitles streams - and UNcheck those that you don't wish to keep). Then press "Start" and "MakeMKV" will rip your movie-only title.

2) Load the MKV file into "tsMuxeR" and select "BluRay". Click on start.

You should (as I did) now have a BluRay "movie-only" package that is perfectly acceptable to "BD-RB" - and will be properly processed.
As I then told you in my Post #22 to this thread (And subsequently confirmed successful by others): Certainly it's your prerogative, although your logic is flawed (there are no additional codecs involved) and you exaggerate the "extra effort" required.

What I proposed you try:

1) Will take but two additional "single clicks" and approximately an additional 1/2 hour

2) Will allow you to determine with certainty whether your problem is with BD-RB or, perhaps, with your original BluRay disc

3) May allow you to successfully (as I did, using this method) make a "movie-only" copy of your BluRay "WALL-E"

[Rumbah]

I tried it once again and I think the new log points to an error:
- [14:34:05] Extracting A/V streams [VID_00000]
- Error in attempt to extract audio/subs.
- Can't create output file Y:\TEMP\WORKFILES\00000+00024+00001+00025+00002+00026+00003+00027+00004+00028+00005+00029+00006+00030+00007+00031+00008+00032+00009+00033+00010+00034+00011+00035+00012+00036+00013+00037+00014+00038+00015+00039+00016+00040+00017+00041+00018+00042+00019+00043+00020+00044+00021+00045+50202+00023.track_4352.dts
So BD-RB tries to create a file with a file name bigger than 255 characters which is not allowed for NTFS.

[Capsbackup]

For a movie only backup, an option that has worked for me is to use Clown_BD/eac3to on the original Blu-Ray to create a new BluRay, less any audio and subtitle tracks you want, which will have only one .m2ts file. You can now run this new BluRay thru BD-RB to select the BD5/9 or BD25 file size of your choice.
However, since this is preprocessing, do not report any problems or failures in the BD-RB bug reports thread!

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@Rumbah

If you try my suggestion of using "MakeMKV", you should not be confronted with the problem you've reported here...

[Rumbah]

Yes, it works your way but that does not change the fact that there is an error with DVD-RB. Perhaps there are other BluRays on which the movie is separated in many pieces and DVD-RB would have problems there, too.

[jdobbs]

Yes, it works your way but that does not change the fact that there is an error with DVD-RB. Perhaps there are other BluRays on which the movie is separated in many pieces and DVD-RB would have problems there, too. Yeah, it needs to be fixed. But the problem is "How?" -- that error is in TSMUXER, not BD-RB.

[Rumbah]

Can't you just change the output file name to audio1.dts or cut the name to 255 characters or doesn't TSMUXER allow to set the output file name by command line?
Because manual extraction with a gui and a shorter file name works fine.

[jdobbs]

Can't you just change the output file name to audio1.dts or cut the name to 255 characters or doesn't TSMUXER allow to set the output file name by command line?
Because manual extraction with a gui and a shorter file name works fine. All I provide is the output directory -- TSMUXER names the extracted file(s). If you know a way to do it differently please explain...

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@jdobbs

Hi!

Perhaps the author of either "MakeMKV" or "eac3to" will share their methodology with you?

[yonexsp]

Yeah, it needs to be fixed. But the problem is "How?" -- that error is in TSMUXER, not BD-RB.

Seems like a pretty big error in TSMUXER

[jdobbs]

Seems like a pretty big error in TSMUXER I guess it depends on the point of view -- several hundred encodes and I've never hit it once.

It's only a big error when it happens -- which is exceptionally rare.

[jdobbs]

Can't you just change the output file name to audio1.dts or cut the name to 255 characters or doesn't TSMUXER allow to set the output file name by command line?
Because manual extraction with a gui and a shorter file name works fine.If you know a way to do it differently please explain... You are saying manual extraction with the gui works fine. If that is true, please explain how. I can find no way that you can combine all the parts of the MPLS (as is absolutely necessary to avoid audio sync issues) and output it to a different filename. TSMUXER selects the output filename (which is too large) when it is demuxing.

[Rumbah]

You're right, for manual extraction I just tried a single m2ts file as it was before you got the detailed error message. If I try to demux from the playlist I get the file creation error.

So I guess we have to wait till the TSMuxer guys fix it.

[jdobbs]

You're right, for manual extraction I just tried a single m2ts file as it was before you got the detailed error message. If I try to demux from the playlist I get the file creation error.

So I guess we have to wait till the TSMuxer guys fix it.No, I'm putting in code that will catch the error when it happens, and then will output to a single M2TS followed by extraction from that M2TS. It's a pain, takes more time, and uses more space, but at least it won't fail -- and it will only happen when this error forces it.

[programmer_rich]

jdobbs, any update since 7th Dec?

I've tried 31.06 but it still fails in the same why on a movie only backup of the European Wall-E Bluray so I assume you haven't had chance to implement the change yet?

[jdobbs]

jdobbs, any update since 7th Dec?

I've tried 31.06 but it still fails in the same why on a movie only backup of the European Wall-E Bluray so I assume you haven't had chance to implement the change yet?Sorry, but no I haven't.

[DK]

Still makeMKV is a workaround for (at least some) European versions.

[rotty]

Has anyone managed to get this movie to work? It keeps failing for me with an error regarding not being able to find the audio tracks. It does full disc, but then the player I want to use only supports movie only, grrrrr :(

I used clownbd (using the correct mpls file for your language) and made 1 m2ts + 1 mpls file. This disc Movie only will fit on a BD-R ok, but of course you can then us BD Rebuilder to compress to DVD.

clownbd also joins the seperate m2ts file without any audio sync issues that you can get in tsmuxer.

By the way I cant remember which mpls is the english option but I know its not the first one shown in bdinfo. Its certain parts like newspaper headlines etc that change language in the film.