BD-Rebuilder + PS3 + subs = true?

[kenta777]

My english isn't any good and I tried to find the answers to my questions but no luck. Sorry if this is already answered to.

I have got a Playstation 3 and a 1080p plasma. I run 2-channel sound.

Tried with some scene 1080p and custom subs with good results but now I want to put my BD's on my fileserver.

I have the following demands:

Possibility to shrink large movies.
Possibility to run english soundtrack in both 2 and 5-7.1 channels if I want to upgrade in the future. (Can I choose wich track on the PS3?)
Possibility to extract Swedish subs and play them on my PS3 (Are they embedded or separate files?)

Is this possible with BD-rebuilder and a PS3?
What do I need more? Anydvd HD?

Big thanks for answers or directions.

[infiniter]

Hmm, it seems that you don't have read what BD-Rebuilder does.

It takes a BluRay, and it means a complete BluRay structure, and resizes it to a certain media size by leaving off audio tracks in the first place and re-encoding video in the second.

So the BluRay does not remain fully intact.

On the other hand, if you want to use "movie only" then it will create a file (.m2ts). For this file applies:
a) it can have several audio tracks, you can also add some later
b) you can switch the audio tracks on PS3
c) it can contain subs
d) you can not use the subs on PS3

The PS3 only plays embedded subs if they're on
a) DVD Video
b) BluRay Video
c) DivX (in XSUB format)
as far as I know (I got one,too).

So the best solution for your case is to rebuild the BluRay. Then you have the audio you want and subs. Selection goes then, of course, via the normal BD menu.

[kenta777]

Thanks for the reply.

If my PS3 cannot play subs, why can i play subs on scene material? Thats x264 with external srt.

I play them through Playstation Media Server "PMS".

Is this possible to do with the outcome of BD Rebuilder?
Movie only+english sound+subs.

[Inspector.Gadget]

Stop asking about scene material or you'll get this thread locked as Rule 6 violation. Better to stick to only material you own and your own encoding attemptds.

[infiniter]

I play them through Playstation Media Server "PMS".

Is this possible to do with the outcome of BD Rebuilder?
Movie only+english sound+subs.
I don't know exactly, but the PMS could hardcode them or it uses a different format. What's possible and what's not is described in the PS3 tech specs at Sony's.

"Movie only" would be .m2ts in this case. Afaik, it does not work. But try it yourself with a clip on a RW.

[Furiousflea]

start by making your first posts in the wrong forum and regarding stuff that's against the rules. You signed up here years ago surely you know the rules.

obvious freeloading lazy ass warez kiddy.

[kenta777]

Ok, really nice folks here.. you guys don't read well.

I don't ask about wares, I ask about a very good program that I intend to buy if it does what I wan't it to do. I also state that i own a copy of DVd Rebuilder.

It should be you that should know about the rules and don't wine about things in a tread that doesn't contribute to the questions in the first post.

Of course I own the disk I downloaded, I guess I'm not that rich so I buy all the needed equipment before I know it works with encoding and all that with my hardware I own.

So please, help me with my questions or go out in the sun and enjoy.

[Furiousflea]

Ok, really nice folks here.. you guys don't read well.

I don't ask about wares, I ask about a very good program that I intend to buy if it does what I wan't it to do. I also state that i own a copy of DVd Rebuilder.

It should be you that should know about the rules and don't wine about things in a tread that doesn't contribute to the questions in the first post.

Of course I own the disk I downloaded, I guess I'm not that rich so I buy all the needed equipment before I know it works with encoding and all that with my hardware I own.

So please, help me with my questions or go out in the sun and enjoy.

Go on then ;)

The PS3 can play BD-R full disc backups. This means if you backup ANY original Bluray correctly it will play back perfectly as a 1:1 copy in your PS3 using AnyDVD HD to rip it to your hard drive and then BD-Rebuilder to compress. Currently AnyDVD HD works with virtually every disc but BD-Rebuilder has numerous bugs currently and works on roughly 2\3 of discs perfectly.

1. As of this version 0.20.05 it won't maintain PIP video
2. Won't maintain LPCM audio correctly
3. Won't work with seemless branching discs
4. Wrongly maps audio streams in some cases

Now taking that all into account, when it does make a good backup, it does a very good job and obviously over time it will improve and those bugs will surely dissappear over the coming weeks\few months.

It has no problem maintaining subs or anything, your backup will play exactly the same as your original in that respect as long as it is on a BD-R and NOT a DVD5\DVD9.

The Ps3 will ony play backups properly from a BD-R = Remember that!

Also, the PS3 can stream m2ts (files bluray is made of containing the various streams) but it won't allow you to place ANY HD audio in the m2ts and stream those. They must be played from a bluray disc.

If the scene releases are working as expected, you might want to report what file format they are, and open them in tsmuxer to find out some information about what is inside them and replicate that yourself.

It's unclear as to your exact desires...

1. Play video from a server
2. Play backed up bluray discs

Very different things.

[jdobbs]

2. Won't maintain LPCM audio correctlyAn issue with TSMUXER, not BD-RB. But true none the less.3. Won't work with seemless branching discs??? It does for me.4. Wrongly maps audio streams in some cases Maybe one out of a hundred at the most -- in fact I've never seen one yet. But I fixed it for the next release anyhow.

Reminder: Beta, beta, beta...

[kenta777]

Ah, big thanks for this. It's getting clearer.

My goal is to play streamed movies (HiDef) to my PS3 with sound (for now 2-channel) and subs.

With DVD Rebuilder I could rebuild movie only with subs and audio and play streamed to for example my PS3.

It is this I would like to do with BD Rebuilder also.

[Furiousflea]

An issue with TSMUXER, not BD-RB. But true none the less.??? It does for me. Maybe one out of a hundred at the most -- in fact I've never seen one yet. But I fixed it for the next release anyhow.

Reminder: Beta, beta, beta...

Bit defensive eh ;)

I'd have to disagree with you on the mapping of streams only being wrong on 1\100. More like 1\15 or a bit more.

Godfather Part III
Godfather Part II
Resident Evil
Sin City Japanese
300

(I've done about 50 althogether so I must have been very unlucky!!!)

Tsmuxer may well be the culprit, but I did post a utility that supposedly allows tsmuxer to import wav audio correctly that it exports. There will certainly be a utility that can join the 4GB chunks also, if that utility doesn't do it too)

I'm aware BDRB is a beta, I was answering the persons question on its current suitability and I did mention it had those problems and it was still in development.

Not sure how I should have answered.

No matter though, I'm having a bad day so sorry if the above sounds coarse :(

[Furiousflea]

Ah, big thanks for this. It's getting clearer.

My goal is to play streamed movies (HiDef) to my PS3 with sound (for now 2-channel) and subs.

With DVD Rebuilder I could rebuild movie only with subs and audio and play streamed to for example my PS3.

It is this I would like to do with BD Rebuilder also.

It's not designed for that, go and ask in the appropriate forum. It's for backing up blurays you own to optical media (DVD\BD-R\RE) as a way to backup your blurays.

The author (jdobbs) has outlined this in the main beta thread.

Sorry can't help, but don't think anyone will want to help in this forum due to it being off topic.

[kenta777]

Ok, thanks anyway.

I do use DVD Rebuilder for making backups of my DVD's but only main movie with sound and subs to save space on my fileserver.

Was hoping that BD Rebuilder would be the same software but of course for hidef.

[Furiousflea]

Ok, thanks anyway.

I do use DVD Rebuilder for making backups of my DVD's but only main movie with sound and subs to save space on my fileserver.

Was hoping that BD Rebuilder would be the same software but of course for hidef.

"tsmuxer" is the program you want. It can open m2ts files and strip unwanted streams leaving just subs\audio\video of your choice and then output to either m2ts\ts\bluray\avchd.

Since the ps3 can stream m2ts, but not all formats that would be the way to go. It can remove the HD audio part and leave the normal core audio that the PS3 can play...

Have a look in the hd dvd\bluray authoring forum for the main thread on it's use.

[kenta777]

Big thanks!

This is a jungle btw. :)