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boxrick
28th March 2009, 00:23
Im having difficulty getting .sup files from a HDDVD, i decrypt the HDDVD with anydvd.

I demux using Evodemux which only seems to leave me with the audio and video files... Could someone show the options required to get a .sup file or any subtitle file from the .evo i dont mind using a different program etc
setarip_old
28th March 2009, 03:35
Hi!

Did you, as you should, click on the tab labeled "Subpicture"?
hubblec4
28th March 2009, 20:21
Im having difficulty getting .sup files from a HDDVD, i decrypt the HDDVD with anydvd.

I demux using Evodemux which only seems to leave me with the audio and video files... Could someone show the options required to get a .sup file or any subtitle file from the .evo i dont mind using a different program etc

evodemux is a very old tool and is not more supported.

you should use "eca3to (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966)" instead of evodemux.

eac3to works almost perfect for demuxing. and its very easy to use. by the way you can use a GUI for eac3to.

hubble
boxrick
28th March 2009, 23:22
Ok used both programs to get a set of .sup files from my chinese language HD DVD, however "sup rip" opens the subtitles and shows each line and the timing but there is just black where the subtitles are meant to be, this is with both demux programs.....

Any advice here?
hubblec4
29th March 2009, 01:08
Ok used both programs to get a set of .sup files from my chinese language HD DVD, however "sup rip" opens the subtitles and shows each line and the timing but there is just black where the subtitles are meant to be, this is with both demux programs.....

Any advice here?

i cant follow you. with eac3to can you extract the sup-files.
than is the question, what would you do?

where you want to play the final movie. on pc with mkv-container?
there for you should try BDSup2sub for best converting.

hubble
setarip_old
29th March 2009, 01:49
@boxrick

Are you certain that this HD-DVD contains subtitles?
boxrick
29th March 2009, 05:00
Ok, the ripping is for playback on a Popcornhour a110. Im making some backups of my Blurays and a few hd dvd for convience purposes.

I am *certain* the hd dvd contains subtitles! I have pulled subtitles from a few other films already ( blu ray format ) and sucessfully did my first HD DVD thanks you guys today.

I demux the .evo ( or mt2s from blu ray ), get the .sup file load this into suprip and then convert it to a .srt file which works fine.

*however* one particular disk seems to be giving me "blank" subtitles so when i load it into suprip it shows all the individual timings correctly however where the white writing normally is and OCR'd there is simply black spaces....

This is from both demuxing using EAC3to & Evodemux. So anyone know what could be causing this ?

http://www.boxrick.com/suprip.jpg
hubblec4
29th March 2009, 14:17
maybe a bug in suprip. please try BDSup2sub. there you can export to BD.sup and than load again in SupRip.


hubble
boxrick
29th March 2009, 16:30
maybe a bug in suprip. please try BDSup2sub. there you can export to BD.sup and than load again in SupRip.


hubble

Tried that they appear to load into BDSUP2Sub but i get errors.... then i export and try and reload into suprip and get an exception:

see Pics....

Maybe someone has the fearless HDDVD subtitles? :devil:

http://www.boxrick.com/sup2.jpg
http://www.boxrick.com/sup3.jpg
setarip_old
29th March 2009, 16:52
@boxrick

Have you tried increasing the "Contrast" value?
hubblec4
29th March 2009, 18:33
mmh. maybe the ripping from hd-dvd to hdd with anydvd is failed.

can you load the hd-dvd.sup correct in BDSup2sub or SupRead?

hubble
0xdeadbeef
29th March 2009, 18:36
Tried that they appear to load into BDSUP2Sub but i get errors....
What kind of errors? Are the captions displayed at all? If not: upload the SUP as described in the BDSup2Sub thread so I can have a look.
Unfortunately, SupRip doesn't like the SUPs created by BDSup2Sub as it obviously has a bug in its RLE decoder. Since this is known for quite a while, I somehow hoped this would be fixed by SupRip, but I guess I could also create more "SupRip friendly" (albeit larger) SUPs.
Then again: do you really need SRTs at all?
boxrick
29th March 2009, 21:13
oops i thought i had attached the image:-

http://www.boxrick.com/sup4.jpg
0xdeadbeef
29th March 2009, 21:26
Ah ok, that looks pretty good, doesn't it ;) ?

These warnings just mean that the caption was faded in/out and BDSup2Sub ignored all palettes but the most opaque one. AFAIK no other tool implements this feature. This also explains that the SUPs are completely transparent in SupRip.

You also didn't answer if you really need SRTs.

BTW: do you export SUB/IDX as the last screenshot indicates or (BD-)SUP? I'm asking as I assumed you exported SUP, because IMHO SupRip crashed on the SUPs created by BDSup2Sub, not on the SUBs.
boxrick
29th March 2009, 22:07
Ah ok, that looks pretty good, doesn't it ;) ?

These warnings just mean that the caption was faded in/out and BDSup2Sub ignored all palettes but the most opaque one. AFAIK no other tool implements this feature. This also explains that the SUPs are completely transparent in SupRip.

You also didn't answer if you really need SRTs.

BTW: do you export SUB/IDX as the last screenshot indicates or (BD-)SUP? I'm asking as I assumed you exported SUP, because IMHO SupRip crashed on the SUPs created by BDSup2Sub, not on the SUBs.

I tried exporting as a .sup first then when that failed i tried .idx / sub all failed...

I need the srt subs on this specific title since i don't read the native language of the disk!
Unless you know a way a popcornhour can read an alternative type of subtitle i can get from a .sup file ? :devil:

So if they are opaque how do you reckon i can fix this? ( sorry for all the questions just this one single disk giving me all these issues, everything else ive managed with and its been fairly straightforwards! )
0xdeadbeef
29th March 2009, 23:29
Check your PMs.
boxrick
30th March 2009, 10:16
With 0xdeadbeefs help managed to sort the problem :)

Cheers for the help guys :thanks:
setarip_old
30th March 2009, 18:21
@boxrick

Please be good enough to post the solution here...
0xdeadbeef
30th March 2009, 19:11
I gave him a test version of BDSup2Sub which disables an optimization in the RLE encoder that obviously crashes SupRips RLE decoder.
I still hope that the author of SupRip fixes this. Then again, I'm playing with the idea to add this workaround in the normal BDSup2Sub releases temporarily until this is fixed in SupRip.
laserfan
30th March 2009, 20:38
I still hope that the author of SupRip fixes this.Have you been in contact with him (Taktaal)???
0xdeadbeef
30th March 2009, 20:45
Sent him a PM, didn't get a reply yet.