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valnar
23rd March 2009, 19:54
This can go in one of several forums, so I just picked one...

I need help with creating files compatible to be played on a BR player from a DVD-R disc.

I helped my father buy a Panasonic DMP-BD35K Blu-Ray player as it is reported to be one of the best.
I don't have a BR player myself (yet).
I don't live anywhere near my father (I support his PC/technology needs remotely) so I cannot easily test anything.

I am capturing & converting a bunch of Hi8/Digital8 videos for him from his old camcorder. So far, I've been creating them in AutoMKV with a solid x264 profile, H@L3.1, with known good compatible parameters that should play from a variety of sources if needed (Sage HD200, Popcorn Hour, DXVA @ Windows, etc.)

Unfortunately, I don't expect him to buy a Popcorn Hour or WDTV any time soon, so I thought I could create files compatible with his BR player.


Does anyone know the answers to these questions?

Is it required I create an AVCHD structure on a DVD-R disc to play x264 files? What tool would I use for that?
Or... can I just throw my x264 created files on there in AVI or MP4 format and have it recognize them? Are there certain parameters I need to use to be compatible with a Blu-ray STB?


:thanks:

fozzieb
26th March 2009, 09:27
I would like to know this too, I have used tsmuxer to change mkv to blue-ray structure but the res is wrong and on the br player all i get is the dts audio.

From what i read i need to add borders to make the res 1280x720, is there a way to do this without re-encoding the video?

And if the source is 23/24 fps is that ok for pal BR player or do i need to make it 25fps?

Cheers.

turbojet
26th March 2009, 09:42
They have to be encoded as BD (Bluray Disk) compliant which is max consecutive 3 b-frames, and one of these resolutions with the maximum number of reference frames in ( ) subtract 1 from reference if you are using --b-pyramid:
1920x1080 (max 4 ref or 3 ref + --b-pyramid)
1440x1080 (max 5 ref or 4 ref + --b-pyramid)
1280x720 (max 9 ref or 8 ref + --b-pyramid)
720x576 (max 11 ref or 10 ref + --b-pyramid)
720x480 (max 13 ref or 12 ref + --b-pyramid)

If these aren't met the video needs to be encoded, TSMuxer is currently working on a way to add borders without encoding.

Then to put on BD5/9 (Bluray on DVD5/9) you have a few options:
TSMuxer (http://smlabs.net/tsmuxer_en.html) - simple and can join files, output to bluray disk
popBD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=145482) - simple, can't join files, can split files so they can be burned on 2 BD5/9
multiAVCHD (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143744) - advanced, can create menu so can select each video from a menu, make sure you go through all the options, output to multiBD

Then burn BDMV and CERTIFICATE directory as a UDF 2.50 disk, ImgBurn (http://www.imgburn.com/) is free and does a great job of this.

If the Panasonic player doesn't play the BD5/9 make sure you have 24p playback disabled in settings.

AVCHD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AVCHD) is usually only used for digital cameras and playback from flash cards.

23.976 FPS is pretty much standard for movies and works fine for PAL BD playback

valnar
26th March 2009, 13:47
So for SD rez video, 720x480 anamorphic, as in DVD? There is no 640x480 1:1 ratio option I assume?

Do you know if AAC audio can be used?

Atak_Snajpera
26th March 2009, 15:35
Do you know if AAC audio can be used?
NO. You can use only AC3/DTS/LPCM

So for SD rez video, 720x480 anamorphic, as in DVD?
yes. 720x576 should be also supported

deank
1st April 2009, 11:25
AVCHD requires 720x576 videos to be in 50i format.

It was the only way to make Playstation3 use 576p mode, instead of switching to 480p (and cutting the bottom part of the video frame). It also worked with true pal 720x576p@25fps.