Audio Only AVCHD Disc Authouring

[keysersose]

I have a TrueHD audio file as well as the AC3 core from it..

What I want is the audio only in AVCHD using a DVD5 - stick the disc in a BR player press play and get the TrueHD track to play - and dont want to have to fire up the projector..

Can I do this using just TSMuxer?

[deank]

Not directly, but it is really easy to do it. You need video stream to achieve what you need.

I already did this and if you're familiar with avisynth/x264 I can tell you how to do it - if not - just give me the length of the longest audio-track you expect to use and I'll send you one small AVC video stream to use :)

Dean

[keysersose]

great Thanks Dean!

I imagine longest track would be 90 minutes but of course will always vary disc by disc I make..

have never used avisynth/x264 so an email would be great..


Thank-you..

:)

[deank]

I'd rather post it here, so other people can use it too.

Here is 2 hours (120 mins) blank 720x480p AVC video @24fps.

Download it - black_h264_video.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/black_h264_video.rar) - it is just 31KB, but unpacked is about 5MB.

Use it with tsmuxer and add your audio tracks, then tsmuxer will generate the output you need, cutting video to audio track length.

Let me know if it works for you :)

Dean

[keysersose]

wow Nice! especially Tsmuxer doing the sizing..!!

pretty impressive what you guys do around here I must say..

:) :)

THANKS!

[deank]

I may be wrong about tsmuxer cutting the video to audio length - it could be the reverse :)

So you may need to put CUT-END in Split&Cut in tsmuxer.

[deank]

I was thinking...

For all those audiophiles out there :) I can create a small application audioBD and it will accept DD-AC3/LPCM/DTS-*/DD-TrueHD audio streams and will produce a simple BD structure to be used in BD players for listening to HiDef audio tracks. If there is interest, further I can implement playlists and option to have multiple audio tracks. :)

Dean

[keysersose]

I was thinking...

For all those audiophiles out there :) I can create a small application audioBD and it will accept DD-AC3/LPCM/DTS-*/DD-TrueHD audio streams and will produce a simple BD structure to be used in BD players for listening to HiDef audio tracks. If there is interest, further I can implement playlists and option to have multiple audio tracks. :)

Dean

I would imagine there would be LOTS of interest - PLEASE then include MLP tracks as one of the audio stream choices!!

[schlaufer]

Deank, just a suggestion: would it be much work to include chapterlists? I guess not, if you are passing it to tsmuxer.

[deank]

I don't really know what MPL files are.

@schlaufer: Chapters for audio tracks?

Well... thinking of concerts (as I have some) it might be a good idea to set chapter marks at each song start... right?

[turbojet]

MLP files (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meridian_Lossless_Packing) are only found in DVD-Audio as far as I know. BD equivalent is TrueHD.

Chapters would definitely help but not the easiest thing to do, eac3to is probably the only way to really get the info.

[schlaufer]

Chapters may come various sources, in the worst case entered by hand ;)

Yes, I mean chapter marks at the beginning of each new song, so one can create an HD Audio DVD (or even CDs in case of DD5.1/DTS) from a concert/music movie.

[deank]

Can someone provide a MPL sample? And do such files need special processing to get them to AC3 or (easier) to PCM if they are PPCM already?

Bottom line is: how to get them to AVCHD/BD compatible format.

And about chapters and playlists: let's move forward small steps at a time :) Let's first create playable BD discs and then add other options.

[keysersose]

MLP = Meridian Lossless Packing - they are about 1/2 the size of the wave files..

you can use EAC3to to convert MLP to either:

1-single 6 ch wave file
2- 6 mono waves
3-extract the AC3 core (DD5.1)

but we audiophiles want only the LOSSLESS tracks..

I can make you single song DVD-A disc as an ISO file or just a single MLP file - whatever you prefer..

you can use a program called DVD-A Explorer (Search here) to extract the MLP file from the DVD-A disc (you open the IFO file found in the Audio_TS folder)

[keysersose]

I'd rather post it here, so other people can use it too.

Here is 2 hours (120 mins) blank 720x480p AVC video @24fps.

Download it - black_h264_video.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/black_h264_video.rar) - it is just 31KB, but unpacked is about 5MB.

Use it with tsmuxer and add your audio tracks, then tsmuxer will generate the output you need, cutting video to audio track length.

Let me know if it works for you :)

Dean


Yup Works Great! made a BD using the AC3 core from a DVD-A disc - you need to set the cut option to the album length and disc plays for the length you set..

Now just need to add those MLP files..;)

Thanks

[keysersose]

I just made an avchd disc from the MLP files!

Used EAC3to to convert the MLP file to a single 6 channel wave file..downside is that the Linear PCM is roughly twice the size of the compacted MLP files..

my album was originally 24/96 kHz and only 34 minutes long - the avchd disc size is 3.7 GB and I didnt include a core AC3 track - looks like most albums will then need a dvd9..:(

I could downsample the waves to 48 kHz, but refuse to drop the quality..

The bonus though is that this method overcomes the watermark!!!!

The ideal solution here would be to encode the MLP/Waves to TrueHD and make the AVCHD with a TrueHD track and add an optional AC3 or DTS core....

[deank]

How did you create the single PCM file and was it usable in tsmuxer?

I managed to convert the MPL sample to AC3.

I tried to convert it to PCM but then it needed headers (pcm2tsmu) and then tsmuxer accepted it.

My PS3 plays the LPCM 5.1 but I can listen to it in stereo only, because my receiver is connected with optical and only bitstream is available so I can't test it.

Another question:

How can I use the .thd output from eac3to?


eac3to.exe d:\01MLP.mlp test.thd

TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Creating file "test.thd"...
eac3to processing took 9 seconds.
Done.

[keysersose]

How did you create the single PCM file and was it usable in tsmuxer?

eac3to.exe 01mlp.mlp 01mlp.wav

generates a single 5.1 channel file which Tsmuxer sees as a LPCM file and plays and displays as Linear PCM on the PS3..


I managed to convert the MPL sample to AC3.

I tried to convert it to PCM but then it needed headers (pcm2tsmu) and then tsmuxer accepted it.


guess it should be .WAV not pcm..


My PS3 plays the LPCM 5.1 but I can listen to it in stereo only, because my receiver is connected with optical and only bitstream is available so I can't test it.


ok I see - assume you could see and play the DD (ac3) 5.1 stream though?

Another question:

How can I use the .thd output from eac3to?


eac3to.exe d:\01MLP.mlp test.thd

TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Creating file "test.thd"...
eac3to processing took 9 seconds.
Done.
[/QUOTE]

My! That looks simple enough - is there some mandatory requirement that the AVCHD needs a core AC3 stream as well?

[keysersose]

How can I use the .thd output from eac3to?


eac3to.exe d:\01MLP.mlp test.thd

TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Creating file "test.thd"...
eac3to processing took 9 seconds.
Done.


I just tried this on the album track - eac3to step was OK but TSMuxer doesnt recognize the file

"can't detect stream type"

[tebasuna51]

I think you can't convert mlp to thd:

eac3to v3.14
command line: eac3to "God Save The Queen.mlp" "God Save The Queen.thd"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MLP, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
This audio conversion is not supported. <ERROR>

[keysersose]

I think you can't convert mlp to thd:

eac3to v3.14
command line: eac3to "God Save The Queen.mlp" "God Save The Queen.thd"
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MLP, 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 96khz
This audio conversion is not supported. <ERROR>

That's correct - however the original file Dean used was a THD file named as MLP - EAC3 is seeing it as a THD file but whatever it does to the output isn't liked by Tsmuxer

[tebasuna51]

If you have a thd you can obtain a thd with ac3 core accepted by TsMuxer with:

eac3to input.thd output.thd+ac3

[keysersose]

If you have a thd you can obtain a thd with ac3 core accepted by TsMuxer with:

eac3to input.thd output.thd+ac3


Thanks - someone else told me same thing - I am getting clipping errors (no idea why) if the ac3 core stays as 5.1..

Looks like it will work using 16 bit and downmixed to stereo..

:)

[deank]

It doesn't work because of the 96khz I guess


D:\tools>eac3to.exe d:\01MLP.mlp test.thd+ac3
TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
invalid sample rate
Initialization of the AC3 encoder failed.
Aborted at file position 262144.

Other settings will give

The thd ac3 joiner doesn't have the correct connections.
Aborted at file position 262144.

but

D:\tools>eac3to.exe d:\01MLP.mlp test.thd

works. It's that I don't know what to do with the .thd file to use it in BD (m2ts).

thd->thd+ac3:

D:\tools>eac3to.exe test.thd out.thd+ac3 -resampleto48000
TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Resampling to 48khz...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
Creating file "out.thd+ac3"...
Clipping detected, a 2nd pass will be necessary.
libav End of stream indicated
The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 64 bits.
Starting 2nd pass...
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Resampling to 48khz...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
The thd ac3 joiner doesn't have the correct connections.
Aborted at file position 262144.

D:\tools>

[tebasuna51]

Maybe if you let eac3to do all the job:

eac3to v3.14
command line: eac3to test.thd test.thd+ac3
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
TrueHD, 7.1 channels, 96khz
AC3 encoding doesn't support back channels. Will mix them into the surround.
AC3 encoding doesn't support this samplerate. Will resample to 48khz.
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Remapping channels...
Resampling to 48khz...
Mixing surround channels...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
Creating file "Test.thd+ac3"...
The original audio track has a constant bit depth of 24 bits.
The processed audio track has a constant bit depth of 64 bits.
eac3to processing took 4 seconds.
Done.

[deank]

It doesn't work... Probably I don't have some decoder/encoder installed:

D:\tools>eac3to.exe test.thd out.thd+ac3
TrueHD, 5.1 channels, 96khz
Decoding with libav/ffmpeg...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
invalid sample rate
Initialization of the AC3 encoder failed.
Aborted at file position 262144.

And before all this... what program should I use to obtain real information about channels/sampling rate/duration/endianess with audio files. mediainfo is no good.

[tebasuna51]

I'm using libav/ffmpeg, maybe eac3to version?

Info about 'channels/sampling rate' is fine with eac3to.
'duration' is a big problem with VBR and lossles formats. With CBR (ac3, dts) is easy if you know the bitrate and the file size, also easy with wav/lpcm.
'endianess', for what you need that? (big for lpcm, little for wav/raw)

[deank]

I use eac3to 3.14 for testing.

I can't rely on file extension for endianness.

Basically I need means to process audio files (ac3/dts/pcm/lpcm/mpl), obtain their properties and pass (after conversion if needed) to tsmuxer to get m2ts file to use in BD/AVCHD.

[rack04]

Does this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1223582#post1223582) post by Madshi help you at all?

[deank]

No. Those values are when streams are already muxed into m2ts. I needed information about the streams before using them.

[keysersose]

Thanks - someone else told me same thing - I am getting clipping errors (no idea why) if the ac3 core stays as 5.1..

Looks like it will work using 16 bit and downmixed to stereo..

:)

darn - doesn't work with a stereo AC3 core either..

on playback there is no audio stream seen or playing..

[keysersose]

unbelievable - I just installed ver 1.8.30 of TSMuxerGUI - remade the disc using the stereo AC3 core and disc plays fine!

plays the 5.1 Dolby TrueHD track at 96kHz - I do not see any other audio streams ( I thought there would be a stereo track)

code used was:

eac3to album.thd album.thd+ac3 -resampleTo48000 448 -down16 -down2

[keysersose]

tried a few ways but couldnt get the chapter stops to be usable on the disc - just have one long Chapter 1..

any suggestions?

[tebasuna51]

I can't rely on file extension for endianness..
Wav files are not only a extension is a well defined container than can contain PCM audio and other compressed streams.

LPCM is raw data without any header then you must rely in the extracter tool. Don't exist a rely method to know the info from a lpcm file.

Basically I need means to process audio files (ac3/dts/pcm/lpcm/mpl), obtain their properties and pass (after conversion if needed) to tsmuxer to get m2ts file to use in BD/AVCHD.

No problem with ac3/dts/wav/w64 files.
Not possible with lpcm files
With mlp you can decode to wav/w64 files (the conversion to thd isn't possible until a free thd encoder)

You can use any code in my little tool LeeAudBi03b.7z (http://www.sendspace.com/file/q99ok3)

or in source code of NicAudio in my signature.

Both read headers in ac3/dts/wav/w64 files to know the data you need.

[odin24]

I was thinking...

For all those audiophiles out there :) I can create a small application audioBD and it will accept DD-AC3/LPCM/DTS-*/DD-TrueHD audio streams and will produce a simple BD structure to be used in BD players for listening to HiDef audio tracks. If there is interest, further I can implement playlists and option to have multiple audio tracks. :)

Dean

I have often thought about doing this myself... not develop an app, just making an audioBD. I hope you do create something, my only concern is that chapters can be incorporated, and that the disc automatically starts upon insertion... this probably won't be an issue since auto-playback is implemented on tsMuxeR structures.

Can't wait to see what you come up with. Thanks in advance.

[keysersose]

I have often thought about doing this myself... not develop an app, just making an audioBD. I hope you do create something, my only concern is that chapters can be incorporated, and that the disc automatically starts upon insertion... this probably won't be an issue since auto-playback is implemented on tsMuxeR structures.

Can't wait to see what you come up with. Thanks in advance.


The disc will auto start - so no need to fire up your projector

lack of chapters is a big downer - with music, you want to be able to skip over a song you may not like..real shame because TSMuxer is an amazing product because it;s super easy to use and ideal for these audio only apps..

[deank]

Well you can add chapters in tsmuxer before processing your files.

[keysersose]

Well you can add chapters in tsmuxer before processing your files.

hmmm.. I tried this a few different ways with no luck

originally I made a cue file and copied this into the custom chapters box in TSMuxer:

00:00:00:00
00:03:33:32
00:06:49:05
00:09:21:65
00:13:00:24
00:16:17:42
00:18:30:57
00:22:50:42
00:26:38:62
00:29:44:45

Dont know what I am doing wrong..

[odin24]

Your chapters should look like this;

00:00:00.000

not

00:00:00:00

[deank]

use HH:MM:SS or HH:MM:SS.MLS format...

00:00:00.000
00:03:33.320
00:06:49.050
00:09:21.650
00:13:00.240
00:16:17.420
00:18:30.570
00:22:50.420
00:26:38.620
00:29:44.450

[keysersose]

wow that was an easy fix!

Thanks guys!!!!

Looks like I'll be busy converting my hires audio collection..:)

[evdberg]

Regarding MLP, as far as I know the difference between MLP and TrueHD is just the header. The data itself is exactly the same. So it should be possible to 'convert' MLP to TrueHD.

[Golgot13]

Regarding MLP, as far as I know the difference between MLP and TrueHD is just the header. The data itself is exactly the same. So it should be possible to 'convert' MLP to TrueHD.

MLP and TrueHD are exaclty same.
Only there are on TrueHD file some data information (room size, sort of audio:music,...; ..)

ScenaristBD/BluPrint/DSA see MLP file like TrueHD audio track ;)

[nwg]

Using Evodemux with HD DVD's, it will say MLP for a TrueHD stream (Blade Runner HD-DVD for example).

[keysersose]

I'm using the PS3 - There are 3 audio streams on the disc I made - AC3 2.0, AC35.1 and 5.1 TrueHD..

I have 3 issues with my disc:

1-Chapters - they are there - when I advance to the next chapter the info screen blanks out - it takes about 3 seconds to advance and the next song starts playing..

2-regardless of the authoring sequence the disc defaults to and starts playing the AC3 5.1 track - I want the default to be the THD one..

3-you can choose between bitstreaming the tracks to your receiver or let the PS3 convert to LPCM and send that to your receiver. In LPCM mode I can choose only the THD or DD5.1 - no stereo track - in bitstream mode, the PS3 sees only the DD2.0 or DD5.1 - doesnt see the THD stream..the obvious preference would be to see and access all 3 streams regardless of whether you bitstream or convert to LPCM..

[keysersose]

To Dean,

have you had a chance to look further into doing a program for this?

[deank]

I'm using the PS3 - There are 3 audio streams on the disc I made - AC3 2.0, AC35.1 and 5.1 TrueHD..

2-regardless of the authoring sequence the disc defaults to and starts playing the AC3 5.1 track - I want the default to be the THD one..

I think I found a setting in mpls files that allow forcing the higher-quality stream to be first, but I'm still reading.

[keysersose]

I think I found a setting in mpls files that allow forcing the higher-quality stream to be first, but I'm still reading.


I wonder if this specific issue can be addressed with either TSMuxer or TsRemux? IOW let your program create the various audio streams and instruct TSMUxer allow you to mark the various streams as Audio1, 2, 3 and default to 1..

[deank]

These programs cannot control stream preference.

I decided to include audioBD in multiAVCHD, instead of creating another application - it becomes difficult to follow/fix bugs in 3 or 4 programs.

I'll post back when I have more progress.

[keysersose]

These programs cannot control stream preference.

I decided to include audioBD in multiAVCHD, instead of creating another application - it becomes difficult to follow/fix bugs in 3 or 4 programs.

I'll post back when I have more progress.

Thanks Dean - that will be great! - am looking forward to trying it out!

Let me know if you want me to do any beta testing for you

[deank]

It will be really simple, because I'll add an option "use AUDIO tracks only" and "create audioBD" button, along with "HD audio priority" (it will affect both video and audio only compilations).

It will allow those of you who own BD concerts to safely add their video files, but only audio will be used for the final compilation.

I'll issue another version soon that will include support for aac/ac3/pcm/lpcm/dts/HD audio (DD/DTS). It is the MPL files that delay all.

[deank]

I got another GREAT :D idea, inspired by this old PSX interface

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/8e/Dvd_xmb_img02_pop.jpg

I'm thinking of expanding the current XMB-styled menu in multiAVCHD to a more featured one, using really XMB style to browse not just UP and DOWN but LEFT and RIGHT.

This way it can get as the real XMB and you can chose what content to play.

XMBar may contain [exit icon] [pictures icon] [audio icon] [video icon].

This way the user can have pictures/HD audio tracks and HD videos in one AVCHD compilation.

Of course I'll need to check how to make browsable slideshow, but we'll get there ;)

Let me know what you think.

[keysersose]

I got another GREAT :D idea.

I'm thinking of expanding the current XMB-styled menu in multiAVCHD to a more featured one, using really XMB style to browse not just UP and DOWN but LEFT and RIGHT.

This way it can get as the real XMB and you can chose what content to play.

XMBar may contain [exit icon] [pictures icon] [audio icon] [video icon].

This way the user can have pictures/HD audio tracks and HD videos in one AVCHD compilation.

Of course I'll need to check how to make browsable slideshow, but we'll get there ;)

Let me know what you think.

sure is cool with me..anything that gives us professional looking results is fine with me..

Personally I have no plans to add anything other than audio tracks to whatever discs I make - I just want to stick a disc in my BR player and get hires 5.1 music..

however others like adding artwork or will want things like slideshows or adding the lyrics which match the songs as they play..

me..just the music..and I'd rather stick to a single DVD5 - the extra video content could push the size up to a DVD9..

[The1n]

I'd rather post it here, so other people can use it too.

Here is 2 hours (120 mins) blank 720x480p AVC video @24fps.

Download it - black_h264_video.rar (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/black_h264_video.rar) - it is just 31KB, but unpacked is about 5MB.

Use it with tsmuxer and add your audio tracks, then tsmuxer will generate the output you need, cutting video to audio track length.

Let me know if it works for you :)

Dean

Hi Deank,

Is there any possibility that you can explain how you make this video track with avisynth/x264. Example with different fps's.

Thank you also for all your contribution on these forums.

The1n

[deank]

Sure.. it is a simple AviSynth script:

here is 120sec black 1280x720 @ 23.976

blankclip(24*120, width=1280, height=720, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, pixel_type="YV12")


here is 60sec red 1440x1080 @ 23.976

blankclip(24*60, width=1440, height=1080, fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001, pixel_type="YV12", color=$900000)


You can use fps and fps_denominator to select framerate.

For example:

fps=30000, fps_denominator=1001 for 29.970
fps=24000, fps_denominator=1001 for 23.976
fps=24000, fps_denominator=1000 for 24.000
fps=24 for 24.000
fps=25 for 25.000

etc...

Here is the Wiki page. (http://avisynth.org/mediawiki/BlankClip)

[The1n]

@Deank

Thank you very much, works a charm.

Regards
The1n

[odin24]

Could anyone recommend how I could re-process a DVD-A to BDaudio? The sturcture of the DVD-A has AOBs in the Audio_TS folder. I used EVOdemux, which does recognize the 96/24 MLP, I demuxed to MLP, LPCM, PCM, none of which allowed me to create a BDAudio disc using the 96/24 LPCM tracks.

Eac3to would not recognize them as PCM tracks either, however pcm2tsmu did create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file from the EVODemuxed files, which only created static when I tried to play on my PS3. My audio set up does support 96/24 through HDMI.

Thanks.

[keysersose]

Could anyone recommend how I could re-process a DVD-A to BDaudio? The sturcture of the DVD-A has AOBs in the Audio_TS folder. I used EVOdemux, which does recognize the 96/24 MLP, I demuxed to MLP, LPCM, PCM, none of which allowed me to create a BDAudio disc using the 96/24 LPCM tracks.

Eac3to would not recognize them as PCM tracks either, however pcm2tsmu did create a tsMuxeR compatible PCM file from the EVODemuxed files, which only created static when I tried to play on my PS3. My audio set up does support 96/24 through HDMI.

Thanks.

use DVD-A Explorer to extract the 24/96 MLP files - use eac3toGUI to convert them to LPCM and then make the avchd using Tsmuxer..

[deltec]

I do classical recordings in pcm 24 bits 88khz or 96 Khz they could be 2 channel stereo or multichannel 5.1 always in pcm, could I create a BD or AVCHD disc with the originals files in pcm and play it on samsung 2500 ?

[keysersose]

I do classical recordings in pcm 24 bits 88khz or 96 Khz they could be 2 channel stereo or multichannel 5.1 always in pcm, could I create a BD or AVCHD disc with the originals files in pcm and play it on samsung 2500 ?

yes to both questions..

The 2500 does support AVCHD discs

[deltec]

Thank keysersose but reading original spec from the site of ACVHD they says that linear PCM is supported for a max of 1,5Mbts, that means 16 bits 48 khz, not 24bits 88Khz as I need!!

[keysersose]

Thank keysersose but reading original spec from the site of ACVHD they says that linear PCM is supported for a max of 1,5Mbts, that means 16 bits 48 khz, not 24bits 88Khz as I need!!

I was able to take a retail DVD-A disc with tracks being 24/96, convert it to LPCM and it played fine on my PS3 and displayed it LPCM 24/96...

Dolby TrueHD on bluray is either 24/48 or 24/96 and there is no problem playing these as AVCHD discs..

[deank]

To revive this topic :)

I added some experimental/initial support for audio titles in multiAVCHD (as I promised few months ago). You can now create audio-AVCHD / audioBD discs.

Currently, mlp/mp2/mp3/ac3/dts/wav/pcm/lpcm/flac formats are supported. (certain restrictions apply <=4GB for MLP and FLAC->LPCM)

You can create a compilation:

* with or without menu
* with chapter marks in each song (for faster browsing)
* with black background for each audio title
* with custom background + Title name + Duration for each title (as in the screenshot attached below)
* and have tracks play sequentially
* and quit / loop playback after the last title
* Poster image can be used for audio-title background
* Custom chapters can be loaded/edited for audio-title
* Language ID for audio track can be changed

FLAC will be converted to AC3 if "TrueHD to LPCM" option is not checked, otherwise it will be converted to LPCM (a better way to keep its quality).

MLP (Meridian) will be converted to WAV/LPCM (4GB limit per title).

DTS, AC3, WAV, PCM/LPCM are not reprocessed/reencoded but added 'as is'.

MP3/MP2/FLAC files are reencoded to AC3/LPCM and sampling rate is changed to 48000 if not reported or if < 48000.

Dean

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/multiAVCHD_audioBD.jpg

[14:53:33] Log started for multiAVCHD v3.0 (build 652)
[14:53:33] Selected output mode: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)

[14:53:33] Processing 34 titles...
[14:53:33] Preprocessing audio title (D:\_CDs_Backup\Astral\Astral Projection - 01 Ionized.mp3).
[14:53:33] Preparing audio title background (PAL).
[14:53:33] Encoding background (x264)...
[14:53:36] Processing audio...
[14:53:36] Converting audio to AC3 (eac3to)...
[14:53:43] Muxing...
[14:53:44] Completed...

[14:53:44] Media transfer: 00000 -> 00000.m2ts
[14:53:44] Processing playlist...
[14:53:44] Title #1 added: "Astral Projection - 01 Ionized"
[14:53:44] Verifying title...
[14:53:49] Title has: 1 audio tracks and 0 subtitle tracks

...

[15:06:55] Compiling menu pages...
[15:08:53] Authoring custom menu completed.
[15:08:53] Setting menu for 34 titles...
[15:08:53] Playback will end after title #34.
[15:08:53] Setting menu properties...
[15:08:53] Processing clip (CPI/CLPI) files...
[15:08:54] Completed.
[15:08:55] Renaming files to FAT compatible 8.3 filenames...
[15:08:55] Done!

[15:08:57] Saving multiAVCHD quick-load project (mpf):
[15:08:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral\multiAVCHD.mpf (OK!)

Compilation summary:
Format: Playstation 3 (USB/SDHC/MS)
===============================================================================
1. Astral Projection - 01 Ionized [00:07:23]
2. Astral Projection - 01 Solid elctroincs [00:07:43]
3. Astral Projection - 02 Andromeda [00:09:32]
4. Astral Projection - 02 Zero [00:05:53]
5. Astral Projection - 03 Enlightened Evolu [00:07:22]
6. Astral Projection - 03 Power Gen (Live S [00:07:44]
7. Astral Projection - 04 Channeling [00:04:00]
8. Astral Projection - 04 Free Tibet [00:07:40]
9. Astral Projection - 05 Maian Dream [00:07:02]
10. Astral Projection - 06 Kabalah (New Age [00:09:05]
11. Astral Projection - 07 Ten Minutes to Su [00:07:09]
12. Astral Projection - 07 Time Began With T [00:07:24]
13. Astral Projection - 08 Analog voyager [00:09:40]
14. Astral Projection - 08 Utopia (Concept r [00:07:48]
15. Astral Projection - 09 12000 Suns [00:12:10]
16. Astral Projection - 09 Electronic [00:09:04]
17. Astral Projection - 10 Ambience [00:05:27]
18. Astral Projection - Another World - 01 - [00:09:26]
19. Astral Projection - Another World - 02 - [00:06:54]
20. Astral Projection - Another World - 03 - [00:08:57]
21. Astral Projection - Another World - 04 - [00:10:25]
22. Astral Projection - Another World - 05 - [00:09:51]
23. Astral Projection - Another World - 06 - [00:09:32]
24. Astral Projection - Another World - 07 - [00:08:22]
25. Astral Projection - Another World - 08 - [00:08:34]
26. Astral Projection - Another World - 09 - [00:07:32]
27. Astral Projection 01-Dancing Galaxy [00:09:16]
28. Astral Projection 02-Soundform [00:08:11]
29. Astral Projection 03-Flying Into a Star [00:09:45]
30. Astral Projection 04-No One Ever Dreams [00:08:24]
31. Astral Projection 05-Cosmic Ascension (f [00:10:19]
32. Astral Projection 06-Life on Mars [00:09:08]
33. Astral Projection 07-Liquid Sun [00:11:00]
34. Astral Projection 08-Ambient Galaxy (dis [00:06:11]
===============================================================================
Overall duration : 04:43:53
Output size : 1516 MiB (1.48 GiB)

[15:08:57] D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral folder created!
[15:08:57] Rename D:\multiAVCHD\AVCHD_Astral to AVCHD and copy it to root of USB drive or USB disk.
[15:08:57] You may now remove temp folder (D:\multiAVCHD\_TEMP\).
[15:08:57] Your compilation contains 4hrs 43min 53sec of video material.

[15:08:57] multiAVCHD finished in 924 seconds (00:15:24)!

[15:08:57] End of log.

[7saigon5]

Your program said it has been expired this built 693+....Please advise!At this current it worked fine(built 691) and if you should make decent like this then I will be happy and support you the author....

[jolson]

Regarding MLP, as far as I know the difference between MLP and TrueHD is just the header. The data itself is exactly the same. So it should be possible to 'convert' MLP to TrueHD.

MLP and TrueHD are exaclty same.
Only there are on TrueHD file some data information (room size, sort of audio:music,...; ..)

ScenaristBD/BluPrint/DSA see MLP file like TrueHD audio track ;)
So it should be not only possible, but practically doable, to convert MLP to TrueHD by adding just that header information...? And save 40-50% of space over uncompressed PCM.

I guess there's no public spec over the TrueHD format...?

But, if the header is small, one could try to find out the necessary information with just a hex editor. Or, even better, does anyone have the same track both as MLP and TrueHD?

[keysersose]

to revive this topic again..:)

I have been using TSMuxerGUI to make avchd discs with a DTS-MA audio track

have been playing fine on my PS3

I bought the new Denon flagdhip player - it will play the discs but I cannot:

1-see any details on screen
2-fast forward
3-chapter skip

I can live without 1 and 2 but really want to be able to skip tracks

Is Tsmuxer specific to make discs only for the PS3?

any ideas on what to do for the Denon player?

Dean: I have tried everything using your MultiAvchd with no success at all

Thanks

[deank]

I've done 10ths of audio compilations and they all work just fine. I'm not sure what is causing your trouble.

[keysersose]

I uploaded a full album and sent you the links

if you can, please download it - add in the chapter marks with it and let me know if you make a working avchd

Thanks

[keysersose]

to revive this topic again..:)

I have been using TSMuxerGUI to make avchd discs with a DTS-MA audio track

have been playing fine on my PS3

I bought the new Denon flagdhip player - it will play the discs but I cannot:

1-see any details on screen
2-fast forward
3-chapter skip

I can live without 1 and 2 but really want to be able to skip tracks

Is Tsmuxer specific to make discs only for the PS3?

any ideas on what to do for the Denon player?

Dean: I have tried everything using your MultiAvchd with no success at all

Thanks

I was able to get the discs to work on the Denon by creating a blank video file that is 1080P..the original one I was using was 480x720..

:)

[deank]

I uploaded a full album and sent you the links

if you can, please download it - add in the chapter marks with it and let me know if you make a working avchd

Thanks

I'll try it tomorrow :)

[jolson]

I was able to get the discs to work on the Denon by creating a blank video file that is 1080P..the original one I was using was 480x720..
:)
So if I have one of your BD's and want it to be playable in a stand-alone BD player, how do I reauthor it?

[keysersose]

So if I have one of your BD's and want it to be playable in a stand-alone BD player, how do I reauthor it?

does the disc not play presently?

[jolson]

does the disc not play presently?
Same problem as you on the Denon.

[keysersose]

ok steps are:

1-mount your iso file
2-go to BDMV/Stream/
3-install TSMuxerGUI
4-move the 000001.mt2s file to the input panel
5-demux option

6-email me at mrkeysersose@gmail.com - I'll email the 1080P video file and chapter points

7-using TSMuxerGui make a new Blu-ray disc using the 1080P video file and demuxed album.dtshd audio stream

8-cut and Paste chapter points - use cut option to indicate album length

[7saigon5]

So far I have made 2 BD music compilation using MultiAVCHD....

[keysersose]

So far I have made 2 BD music compilation using MultiAVCHD....

2 questions..

1- do you have chapter stops?
2- what format is the audio stream?

[deank]

multiAVCHD build 703

* Fix for audioBD / audioAVCHD compilations

Chapter jumps, fast forward and rewind now work properly.

The best way to import an album title (many songs in one audio file) is to use .CUE sheet playlist.

If multiAVCHD is unable to detect album duration it will look for specific lines in the .cue file (if cue file is present).

If you're using .cue files, please add:

TRACK 99 AUDIO
TITLE "END"
INDEX 99 MM:SS:FF

at the end of the file, replacing MM:SS:FF with the actual duration of your album.

For example for 1 hr 5min 13sec long album:

TRACK 99 AUDIO
TITLE "END"
INDEX 99 65:13:00

(65 minutes = 1hr 5mins : 13 seconds)

* If .cue file is not present and album duration is not detected it defaults to 2 hours (7200 seconds)
* If. cue file is present but there is no "INDEX 99" album-duration-indication, then duration defaults to last track start time + 5 mins

Dean

[deank]

multiAVCHD build 704

addresses some problems with .dtshd files if .cue file is not present or if .cue filename is different than the .dtshd filename.

Prompt pop-up for manual duration entry is added in format HH:MM:SS when multiAVCHD is not able to detect audio album duration.

It should now all work for audio compilations / albums (audioBD and audioAVCHD).

Dean

[wswartzendruber]

1. There's one thing I haven't seen mentioned anywhere in this thread: Profile 3.0, which is dedicated for audio-only Blu-rays. Is your utility compliant with this standard?
2. Do Blu-ray discs support metadata similar to ID3?
3. Can Blu-rays be played without AACS or BD+, or do I have to use AVCHD?

My end goal is to master a disc that will play on Profile 3.0 audio players when they become available.

[deank]

1) Yes, it will produce output compatible with Profile 3.0
2) Yes, meta information is stored it \META\DL and \META\ES
3) Yes, you can, but you also can use AVCHD if the player is AVCHD-compatible.

Dean

[deank]

Here is something about profile 3:

Functions of BD-ROM Profile 3 Players

Required functions of the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 3 are the same as
for the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 1 and BD-ROM Profile 2, except that

• Only the following user operations are mandatory for the BD-ROM Players which complies with BD-ROM Profile 3:

- Skip to Next Point() UO
- Skip Back to Previous Point()UO
- Play FirstPlay() UO
- Stop() UO
- Still Off() UO

• Output of video and graphics data is not available. However, decoding of the Interactive
Graphics stream still needs to be supported, so that that buttons which activate automatically
(without requiring the Activate Button user operation) will still activate automatically, and so that
any button related user operations that are supported by the BD-ROM Player are correctly
handled.

• BD-J is not applicable.

• Player function of Browsable slideshow is not applicable.

• Player function of Audio mixing model is not applicable.

• Player function of Binding Unit manifest file is not applicable.

• Player function of Local storage and Virtual File System is not applicable

[wswartzendruber]

You, sir, are an enormous help! :)