How do I rip a ntsc movie without it becoming 23.976 fps?

[Jeremy Duncan]

I want my rip to keep the 29.976 fps it has when played from the disk.
Right now when i rip it it becomes 23.976 fps, and I don't want that fps.

[~bT~]

a bit more info would help.. like your exact steps?

[Jeremy Duncan]

a bit more info would help.. like your exact steps?

I use dvd fab free: http://www.dvdfab.com/free.htm

i select only rip main movie and select ac3 english.

But it's been a long time since i did this and forget if it gives me 23.976 fps or 29.976 fps vobs.

I guess what I'm asking is if there is a established way of ripping 29.976 ntsc movies without them becoming 23.976 fps.

When i tried dvddecrypter a few years ago and the movie the fifth element it made it have lines in the picture.

What i want is some instructions and a link to sw that I can try and see if I can get a 29.976 fps dvd rip, with no lines. :script:

[linyx]

No ripping programs that I know of will perform an inverse telecine while ripping DVDs... Maybe you are using DGIndex? If so then be sure to set the Video > Field Operation to Honor Pulldown Flags.

[RunningSkittle]

Are you not familiar with how telecine works?

[Inspector.Gadget]

You'll get 29.97 fps content; DVDFab HD Decrypter doesn't re-encode anything. 29.97fps content - as is the standard for DVDs distributed in NTSC areas - will have interlacing on playback of the VOBs if either hard pulldown or soft pulldown exists. In the rare cases where a movie is 29.97 content and every frame is progressive (some old flick with Harrison Ford I ripped a while ago) you won't see this if you step through it in a DGIndex or MeGUI preview window. In all other cases (where there is no software deinterlacing applied) you will see the lines you described above.

In essence, ripping doesn't change the video at all: encoding does. Furthermore, encoding to 23.976 fps is a GOOD thing where you have either soft telecine you eliminate via "Force Film" or hard telecine that you eliminate via one of the several IVTC Avisynth filters in common use. The bottom line is that ripping your DVDs does nothing to change the audio or video content: that is all done in the indexing/frameserving/encoding stages of your conversion.

[Jeremy Duncan]

I tried it again today and it does not change the fps to 23.976. See the picture for my setup and ripping process:

http://thumbnails16.imagebam.com/2853/40dd5a28521271.gif (http://www.imagebam.com/image/40dd5a28521271)

[DJ Bobo]

@ Jeremy
Am I missing something here? a post count of over 700 and you want an NTSC movie to be 29.97fps??? Why? You wanna copy the movie to DVD? Then just use DVD-Shrink.
You need MPEG-4 output? Check the Doom9 guides, and make sure you get clean progressive 23.976fps at the end!

I don't wanna know how many rips you messed up the last 3 years!! :eek:

[dialysis1]

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I want my rip to keep the 29.976 fps it has when played from the disk.
I tried it again today and it does not change the fps to 23.976.Isn't that what you want?

[Jeremy Duncan]

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Isn't that what you want?

Yes, it is. I don't encode my stuff. I use avisynth for realtime ffdshow using the dvd disk. When I do rip I make a avi for my youtube channel and make a music video.

[DJ Bobo]

Even if you process them through avisynth, you need to have them in the original framerate which is 23.976fps.
Only TV broadcast is true 29.97fps.
Anyway, you're in the wrong forum, decrypting never had anything to do with the framerate.