BD-Rebuilder Guides for Tools

[Furiousflea]

BD-Rebuilder step by step
HD DVD -> Bluray
Burning
Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc
Compatible BD5\BD9 players....



BD-Rebuilder step by step




Software you will need...

BD-Rebuilder - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

Extract file archive anywhere you like, preferably close to the root of your drive to avoid potential problems.


AVISYNTH 2.57 - http://www.avisynth.org/


FFDShow - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/

After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Also make sure VC-1 decoding is set to "disabled".


Matroska Splitter - http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/


AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com


Imgburn - http://www.imgburn.com



Important: After the above have been installed\extracted make sure you RESTART YOUR COMPUTER before you begin.



1. Make sure AnyDVD HD is running at it's default settings and enabled with the small icon in the taskbar in RED - this show's it is enabled. Right click the RED icon and choose "Rip Video DVD To Hard Disk". Select your Bluray drive and output folder and click "Copy". Copying will take a long time depending on the speed of your Bluray drive it can take between 30 mins - 90 mins.

2. Open BD-Rebuilder by browsing to the folder you extracted it to earlier and running BD_Rebuilder.exe. When it first loads you may be a little daunted but creating a good quality BD backup is childs play.

3. First you have to chose what your target will be, are you burning to BD5 (Single layer DVD+\-R) BD9 (Double layer DVD+\-R) or BD25 (Single layer BD-R) - You only need a Bluray burner for writing to BD-R all DVD writers can make a BD5\BD9 backup.

4. So lets get started, click "settings" then from the drop down list click "options" then select your desired output. Next in the same drop down menu click the "Encoder settings" sub menu and you can see that you can chose the quality of the output. The highest quality setting will take so long even on a fast system that it is best to always chose "High quality (default)". Now click the "settings" menu again and this time chose the bottom option "Setup". A dialogue box will appear with a few different options. At the top we have "Audio Languange To Keep", most blurays have a few different audio languages on the disc. It is best to remove the ones that aren't in your native language as long as you aren't backing up a bluray that is meant to be in another language and has no audio track in your native language. So make sure there is a tick by the box for your native language. Next the box below this "Limit to one track for each language", this will make BD-Rebuilder only encode 1 audio track for each language for your bluray. For example if your bluray has an english main track and 1 english commentry track, BD-Rebuilder will deselect the commentry track. It will apply this rule to extras also.

The same thing applies to the "Subtitles" box on the right.

Below this we have "stricter AVCHD compliance for movie only" - This is useful if you are making a backup for playback on devices that don't properly support BD9 but will playback AVCHD (The PS3 is an example of this)

And under that we have the audio encoding options. Audio on bluray is stored at an extremely high quality much higher than DVD. It is normally overkill for most people except the very best high end hardware and is impossible to keep on a BD5\BD9 backup without reducing the picture quality substantially because there will be less room for the video data.

The first option "Do no convert DTS to AC3". If this is selected and your bluray has a DTS\DTS-HD\DTSMA audio track, then it will not be re-encoded to AC3. Note that your audio will still be re-encoded to normal DTS - which is still very high quality and even that can take a lot of space. So it might be a good idea to not tick this box unless you are doing a short "movie only" backup on BD9, for BD5 you should never select this.

Under this we have "Do not reencode AC3" This works in the same way as the option above for DTS but applies to audio encoded with Dolby codecs (TrueHD\AC3+) This option isn't as critical as the DTS one in terms of wasting space on your backup as TrueHD will be encoded whatever you select (uncompressed audio taking massive amount of space) but it is stil best to leave it unticked for BD9 and always BD5.

Finally we have "Use 640kbs for Ac3 encoding" This option will make BD-Rebuilder encode AC3 audio at 640kbs instead of the default 448kbs. This option works in conjuntion with the "Do not convert DTS to Ac3" So if you do not convert your DTS audio to AC3 this option won't do anything. But if you do encode your DTS audio to Ac3 this will chose whether to encode it at 640kbps\448kbps. Jdobbs, the author of BD-Rebuilder thinks that the difference in sound quality between 640kbs and 448kbs is negligable. My opinion differs on this matter and the difference in bitrate shouldn't affect the quality of your video even if you chose the higher quality 640kbs unless your Bluray is very large.

Ignore the options on the right below the subtitles selection box, they aren't needed for basic backups.

Click save changes once you have chosen the options that are most appropriate for your particular bluray.

Now you need to select the source directory of the Bluray you want to backup, click "browse" to the right of the "sourc path" box, and locate the folder you backed up your bluray to using AnyDVD HD earlier. Now click "browse" again, under the working path heading and chose a folder where BD-Rebuilder will do it's magic, if you have 2 or more hard drives it is best to select a folder on a drive seperate to the one your Bluray has been ripped to. It is not essential but will make using your computer smoother for doing other tasks while your Bluray is being backed up.

Finally before we hit that big "Backup" button, you need to chose if you want to make a full backup, or a backup of the movie only with no extras or menu on the backup. You can do this by clicking "mode" on the toolbar and clicking the desired option "Full backup" or "Movie only backup".

If you are burning to BD5 you should ALWAYS chose "Movie only backup". If you are burning to BD9, you must look at how long your Bluray is (it will say near the bottom of the screen above the "Backup" button). If it is under 2:30, a full backup should be ok. For BD25 you should always select a full backup.

Thats it, click backup and WAIT.....It can take anywhere from 8 hours on a fast quad core computer to many days on an old Pentium 4\AMD single core computer.


Hope this guid is of some use I will tidy it up in due course


HD DVD -> Bluray (main movie only)




Software you will need

AnyDVD HD - http://www.slysoft.com



EAC3To - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=125966



HD-DVD\Bluray Stream Extractor - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=141829

Extract to same folder as EAC3To (this is simply a frontend so you don't have to mess around with command lines)



TSmuxer GUI - http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=134104




Rip your HD DVD with AnyDVD HD, the in the same way as you would with a Bluray (Look up there on how to do it ^). At this point we need to run the HD-DVD Stream Extractor you should have extracted already. Once you've run it, you'll see at the top left a room for path to the input folder. Click the button to the right of that and browse to the rip of your HD DVD and load it. Next click the little blue "features" button and your HD DVD will be analysed and the results will shortly be displayed in the window below. The top entry will nearly always be your HD DVD "main movie" and have the longest duration (the one you want) with the others (if there are any) being extras.

Go ahead and click the entry that corresponds to the main movie and wait a few seconds until the various streams that are in the "main movie" appear.

Once loaded you should have various streams, as a minimum an "audio" and a "video" one, most likely a few "audio" ones though and a load of subtitle ones too. You need to put a tick by the main "video" stream (this will be 1080p 99% of the time) and NOT the secondary video stream (this will be 480p 99% of the time and is a PiP track if you HD DVD has one).

When choseing what to extract the video as make sure you DON'T chose MKV - Depending on what type of codec was used chose either VC1\h264.

Now on to audio, put a tick in the audio stream that corresponds to your native language and a lossless one if possible (TrueHD\DTS Master Audio) If there is no lossless one then the highest bitrate surround track is normally the correct one to extract. Make sure you "extract as" the same format of the original track, eg TrueHD as "THD" EXCEPT for EAC3 audio, that should be extracted as "AC3"

Now on to subs, if needed. Some movies have "forced" subs and they will apprear in the description here so have a quick check if some forced subs in your native language are need and put a tick by them also if needed.

Now click the browse button up the top right for the output folder selection, click ok. Back at the main windows click the "Extract" button at the bottom of the windows and WAIT - depending on speed of your hard drive and various factors, it can take between 10 mins and 1 hour.

Now on to using TSmuxer to merge those extracted streams into and m2ts container and output as bluray file structure.

You should now be left with 2-3 raw streams, your video and audio as well as a sub track if you extracted one of them too. Now browse to the folder you have extracted TSmuxer to and run the GUI executable in that folder (the one with a nice icon ;)) At the top 3rd of the screen you have room to drag files on to the program window that will form your bluray structure. So, open the folder you extracted those raw streams to just now and drag 1st the video, then the audio and then the subtitle if you used one.

The middle window should now be populated with a video\audio\subtitle track. For cosmetic reasons you can click your audio\subtitle track and update its displayed language in the drop down list once you've clicked it (not essential though.

Ok, so these files will make up your bluray, Below this is the output section, chose "Create Blu-ray disk" then browse and create a folder where you want to store the Blu-ray structure. Then click ok.

Back at the main TSmuxer window click "Start Muxing"....Wait a while and TSmuxer will tell you once it's finished and if it was successful.

Load this output folder into BD-Rebuilder....Your done.


Notes : You can extract as many audio\subtitle tracks as you want from the HD DVD, I chose a single one for simplicity of the guide. You can keep your commentry tracks and all that rubbish if you want just make sure you drag that file into TSmuxer also when creating youe bluray structure





Burning

Software you will need

ImgBurn http://www.imgburn.com

Install ImgBurn then load it up and chose the top right icon "Write Files\Folder To Disk"

Click the "Browse for Folder" icon, (its above the red X) browse to the output folder of BD-Rebuilder and click the folder representing the name of the movie and click ok to add it.

Chose the destination as your DVD writer\Bluray writer in the dropdown list below the files\folder list window.

Look to the right and you will see a selection of tabs, click the "device" tab and chose your burn speed (recommended as low as possible to give good quality burn)

Next click the "options" tab and change the filesystem to "UDF" and UDF revision to "2.50"

Optionally you can click the "Label" tab and give your disc a label so that when it is loaded on a computer the name of the movei will appear in my computer for easy recognition.

Go back to the "Information" tab and click the big calculator icon at the bottom of the screen, various statistics about your burn will pop appear like size etc.

Click the big burn button at the bottom left of the ImgBurn main window, click ok to any dialogue box that appears.

MAKE SURE YOU TICK THE "VERIFY" BOX ABOVE THE LARGE BURN ICON TO RULE OUT ANY DODGY DISCS WHEN DIAGNOSING ANY PROBLEMS WITH YOUR DISC.

Assuming everything goes ok during the burn you will be left with a nice BD5\BD9\BD25 ready for playback.



Get BD-R Capacity from BD-RE Disc

If burning to BD-RE the space available isn't as high as BD-R by default. To make it so you can write as much to a BD-RE as a BD-R....

Start Imgburn
Tools -> Settings -> "Write tab" -> "Prefer format without spare areas" check box.

Now whne you next format you BD-RE with Imgburn it will hold as much as a normal BD-R



Compatible BD5\BD9 players....

Please refer to my other thread on comptabile BD5\BD9 players if you have any problems it could be that your player doesn't support full disc on BD5\BD9 media, or it may not support BD5\BD9 at all.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

Please post any information you have in terms of compatibility there so I can keep that thread up to date.


Potential Problems

1. Error "Unable to find MSCOMCTL.OCX" or similar...

Solution; Right click BD-Rebuilder -> Run as Administrator (Only needs to be done once)

[archaeo]

You forgot to mention Avisynth, which is a critical component.

Isn't this already covered by jdobbs in the link you provide at the top?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

[Furiousflea]

You forgot to mention Avisynth, which is a critical component.

Isn't this already covered by jdobbs in the link you provide at the top?
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143716

I remembered just as I posted it, it's been added now.

A guide was requested. So I made one, people were saying they still didn't know what to do. I've gone into detail step by step for the less clued up amongst us.

[Capsbackup]

@Furiousflea:
Perhaps a link to these instructions and/or a simplified guide would bring me in. I am all for helping out here, but I can definitely get lost quite easily without the details. But as I said before, if I am not up to the task or the qualifications, I'm out and I will stand by and read others attempts.
Thanks for the helpful guide, but I should have been more specific. I was referring to a guide/link for debugging .x264 for Dark Shikari, since I have had an .x264 crash and was trying to find that reason for the BD-RB development efforts

[Furiousflea]

@Furiousflea:

Thanks for the helpful guide, but I should have been more specific. I was referring to a guide/link for debugging .x264 for Dark Shikari, since I have had an .x264 crash and was trying to find that reason for the BD-RB development efforts

lol :eek:

oh well, it's abit more detailed that the instructions jdobbs has given so hopefully it will help someone. Sorry I can't help you with the debugging thingy ;)

[cyberdoggy]

Thanks allot, This is at least a solid step for us to follow so we don't have to keep asking the same questions in the debug forum. ;)

[datman]

Yes thank you for the guide.


It's good for people like myself and newer folks.

One thing that messed me up right at start all the options in FFDshow setup. Silly me wanting everything I checked them all. I turned a 12 hour encode into, who knows a 3 day encode

[GaPony]

Software you will need...

FFDShow - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/

After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Also make sure VC-1 decoding is set to "WMV9".



Are you sure about this being a requirement? I've always had ffdshow's decoder setting for VC-1 set to libavcodec and haven't noticed any problems... I have several movies with VC-1.

[Sophocles]

Jdobbs did recommend the MPEG2 setting in his instructions. I never really took the time to pursue options since it is a rather simple adjustment.

[Furiousflea]

Are you sure about this being a requirement? I've always had ffdshow's decoder setting for VC-1 set to libavcodec and haven't noticed any problems... I have several movies with VC-1.

I *think* for interlaced VC1 libavcodec has problems. Could be wrong though.

[dre111nl]

:goodpost:Thanks for the guide! Nice job!:thanks:

I have a few questions, may be you can answer.

1. FFDSHOW setting MPEG2: I have two options libavcodec and libmpeg2, which should I select? Any important differences?
2. FFDSHOW setting VC-1: is currently disabled on my PC. So, enabling it to WMV9 is advised? (see post above).
3. I want to BD-RB to backup to BD25, but movie-only. In your guide you write that for BD25 I should select full backup. Can you explain why?
4. If I want to keep the movie only on BD25 should I use TsMuxer first, to keep the movie only in a BD-structure, then do a full backup with BD-RB?

Thanks for your answers! I appreciate it.
:)

[GaPony]

I *think* for interlaced VC1 libavcodec has problems. Could be wrong though.

Well that explains it! I wouldn't know the difference between an interlaced VC-1 file and a Volkswagen. :) I went ahead and changed it. Nothing has exploded yet, so I guess it doesn't hurt. ;)

[GaPony]

:goodpost:Thanks for the guide! Nice job!:thanks:

I have a few questions, may be you can answer.

1. FFDSHOW setting MPEG2: I have two options libavcodec and libmpeg2, which should I select? Any important differences?
2. FFDSHOW setting VC-1: is currently disabled on my PC. So, enabling it to WMV9 is advised? (see post above).
3. I want to BD-RB to backup to BD25, but movie-only. In your guide you write that for BD25 I should select full backup. Can you explain why?
4. If I want to keep the movie only on BD25 should I use TsMuxer first, to keep the movie only in a BD-structure, then do a full backup with BD-RB?

Thanks for your answers! I appreciate it.
:)


I can maybe help with a couple answers..

1. I use libavcodec for the mpeg-2 setting. No problems... and its what the default setup from the ffdshow calls for.

2. Apparently wmv-9 is the choice for the VC-1 setting.

3. You can do a Movie Only to BD25 if you want, but in copying a bunch of full movies to BD-25, I can see absolutely no difference between the original Blu-Ray and the copy...none.

4. Just use BD-Rebuilder. Thats what its designed to do... take all those manual steps out of the process for you. Simply select Full Movie, set the quality level ( Default works great), and select the output size to BD25... Hit the start button.

I prefer to burn the output to disc myselft with ImgBurn instead of having BD-Rebuilder send it automatically. It gives me the opportunity to check the movie before committing a $5.00 BD-R 25gb disc. :)

[tyte_E_YT]

If I remember correctly, someone said that selecting 'movie-only' is desirable on a bd25 if one wants the burned disc to be able to play in both ps3 AND set top box, or standalone, blu-ray players. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong. Oh wait thats what this is for: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674

[GaPony]

Maybe if you provided the make and model of your player(s) you could get some more specific information from people who have those players and some experience with them. Essentially, if your player supports AVCHD you can play a movie only copy whether its on BD9, BD5 or BD25... with some minor adaptations for some specific models.

The thread you cited is supposed to be a discussion about compatibility of full movie copies to BD9/BD5.

[tyte_E_YT]

Yes you're right about that thread G. I'm a little mixed up with so many options. Basically what happened is my girlfriend took 27 Dresses on bd25 to her friend's house and it played previews fine until the main movie at which point it was blank. I still need to find out what model her stb was, and then the problem could have simply been because I did it 2 weeks ago with an older (current at the time) BD-RB.

[DaMacFunkin]

Most disks that display this problem havn't been ripped properly, you shouldn't remove Region code, you shouldn't disable BD Live and you shouldn't remove user Prohibitations in Any Dvd HD, you should also add the line to your ini file FIX_CLPI=0 in BD Rebuilder, this will give you ultra compatibillity on Panasonic players and others using the same chipset. Also make sure all your title sets have at least 1 audio track enabled....

[dre111nl]

Thanks to all of you for the reply on the FFDSHOW settings. But also the settings for Any DVD HD helps. I'm sure I have the settings differently.

Maybe something to add in the guide?

:thanks:

[tyau]

:goodpost:Thanks for the guide!

4. If I want to keep the movie only on BD25 should I use TsMuxer first, to keep the movie only in a BD-structure, then do a full backup with BD-RB?



Yes, this is generally what I am doing. The few times I used BD-Rebuilder to make a "movie only" backup for me, it crashed.

When I used TsMuxeR to make a movie-only structure for me prior to using BD-Rebuilder for processing it into a DVD-5, things always went smoothly.

Because RB-Rebuilder is still in beta phase, perhaps it is best to reduce the amount of procedures RB-Rebuilder has to execute. Using TsMuxeR to strip down the movie prior to using RB-Rebuilder has worked for me with 100% success rate.

It is my wish that I could skip the above steps with the official release of BD-Rebuilder.

[GaPony]

Thanks to all of you for the reply on the FFDSHOW settings. But also the settings for Any DVD HD helps. I'm sure I have the settings differently.

Maybe something to add in the guide?

:thanks:

A mention of using AnyDVD-HD in default mode should be adequate... If in doubt just click the default button in AnyDVD's setup.

[ron spencer]

thanks....what is color boost for?

also, is trellis option always good?

[tyau]

Personally, I notice that color boost is not a very noticible option. Though if you look closely, color boost increases the saturation of the output video. It doesn't boost quality or anything, it only boosts saturation very slightly. I use color boost because to me it seems like it may hide some of the imperfections as a result of video compression. That's just my observation, so please do not flame me if that is not the case.

Trellis should improve video quality, and using BD-RB with this option turned off does not improve speed significantly. So its benefit may outweigh the cost of using it.

[datman]

3. You can do a Movie Only to BD25 if you want, but in copying a bunch of full movies to BD-25, I can see absolutely no difference between the original Blu-Ray and the copy...none.

4. Just use BD-Rebuilder. Thats what its designed to do... take all those manual steps out of the process for you. Simply select Full Movie, set the quality level ( Default works great), and select the output size to BD25... Hit the start button.

:)

for me a large number of BDdvds once they are remuxed in a movie only size (if that's what you want) are small enough to fit on a BD25 disc and with far less processing time and you keep full audio

[dre111nl]

for me a large number of BDdvds once they are remuxed in a movie only size (if that's what you want) are small enough to fit on a BD25 disc and with far less processing time and you keep full audio

That's true, works most of the time. Sometimes have to remover the TrueHD audio.

[dre111nl]

May be not the right place to ask, but as we are speaking about a guide....

What about the settings for Imgburn? Does Imgburn have a "defect management" setting? NERO has, but it slows down the burning of a BD-R from 2x to 1x....

Regards,
Dre

[Vanderlow]

Could you mention something about what it takes to make an HD-DVD ready/prepared for BD-Rebuilder to work?

[Furiousflea]

Could you mention something about what it takes to make an HD-DVD ready/prepared for BD-Rebuilder to work?

Strange conincedence I just posted that exact answer....

Will put it in the guide.

[Furiousflea]

I can maybe help with a couple answers..

1. I use libavcodec for the mpeg-2 setting. No problems... and its what the default setup from the ffdshow calls for.

2. Apparently wmv-9 is the choice for the VC-1 setting.

3. You can do a Movie Only to BD25 if you want, but in copying a bunch of full movies to BD-25, I can see absolutely no difference between the original Blu-Ray and the copy...none.

4. Just use BD-Rebuilder. Thats what its designed to do... take all those manual steps out of the process for you. Simply select Full Movie, set the quality level ( Default works great), and select the output size to BD25... Hit the start button.

I prefer to burn the output to disc myselft with ImgBurn instead of having BD-Rebuilder send it automatically. It gives me the opportunity to check the movie before committing a $5.00 BD-R 25gb disc. :)

I have updated the guide to recommend disabling of VC1 decoding in FFDShow, personally I think it's just down to what crap each person has on their system which setting works best best :) jdobbs has recommended having it set as disabled might as well keep it consistent.

[Furiousflea]

May be not the right place to ask, but as we are speaking about a guide....

What about the settings for Imgburn? Does Imgburn have a "defect management" setting? NERO has, but it slows down the burning of a BD-R from 2x to 1x....

Regards,
Dre

Sorry dude, my hands are typed out for now but might add that later.

[Furiousflea]

thanks....what is color boost for?

also, is trellis option always good?

Best just to leave those options alone. Trellis should always be on and colour boost...self explanatory :)

[Furiousflea]

Made some additions to the guide, hope it is helpful to some. :)

Apologies for my bad formatting, but it *should* get you sorted with most discs.

[tyau]

[U][SIZE="5"][B]FFDShow - http://sourceforge.net/projects/ffdshow-tryout/

After the install, run "Video Decoder Configuration" for FFDSHOW from the "START/Programs" menu, and make sure MPEG2 decoding is enabled. Also make sure VC-1 decoding is set to "disabled".


Oh, my Goodness! I just realized that MPEG2 has been disabled by default in FFDShow on my computer.

I wonder if that slowed down my encoding speed in BD-RB.

Gonna try it out again with the "proper" setting tomorrow before I go to work. Hopefully I would get close to around 8-10hrs, instead of the ridiculous 12hrs.

[MikeyBK]

Oh, my Goodness! I just realized that MPEG2 has been disabled by default in FFDShow on my computer.

I wonder if that slowed down my encoding speed in BD-RB.

Gonna try it out again with the "proper" setting tomorrow before I go to work. Hopefully I would get close to around 8-10hrs, instead of the ridiculous 12hrs.

The 12 hour time is more likely due to the processor you have....

[saphire199]

I just had a quick question. Has anyone figured out/played with an approximate "guide" for what size movie file to what size output disk? I see that the audio you choose can make a difference, but besides that, anything to point out that, say at such and such a movie size, can be done on BD-5 up to x amount of data. I am doing movie only. I never did like all the extras, I never watch them. But, most other movies I do movie only, have been doing them all to BD-5, no problems, but this can be a movie file anywhere from 15 - 30 gb. I am just wondering if anyone has found a compression curve to say, well, if you're doing BD-5, suggested no more than 25 gb; BD-9, suggested no more than 40 gb, etc. Thanks, and I hope I put this in right thread, I see the BD RB for dummies thread also.

saphire199

[GaPony]

Playback quality is very subjective, so each person will have to decide those figures for themselves.

As for myself...

I don't put Full movie copies onto a BD-5, but dozen or so Movie Only copies I've done to BD-5, have looked very good.

I don't put Full movie copies over 2 hrs onto a BD-9, and I've gotten to the point of putting all "Movie Only" copies onto BD-9 and they look as good as the original.

I put all my "Full Movie" copies onto BD-25 and they are just as good as the original.

Again, this is just my method...

[saphire199]

Thanks. Yeah, I was trying to get some subjective idea from someone who has done alot of movies several ways - so from your post, you have decided that even "movie only" look slightly better on BD-9 than on the 5, right?

[GaPony]

Thanks. Yeah, I was trying to get some subjective idea from someone who has done alot of movies several ways - so from your post, you have decided that even "movie only" look slightly better on BD-9 than on the 5, right?

They look "good" on BD-5, but longer ones may have some issues. I just avoid ever needing to copy the same movie twice by putting them on BD-9 in the first place. The cost of around $1.20 each isn't that great in relation to the cost of the Blu-Ray original.

Lately, I've been copying almost everything to BD-25, since I was able to get them for $4.40 each. Alot of people don't want to go that route yet, but I think its a pretty good deal for getting an exact duplicate, in terms of quality, of the original movie.

Again, its subjective. I've done close to 100 movies in various ways, so I have a system that works for me, with knowing I plan on playing these movies on my Sony BDP-S550.

When I only had the PS3, I could only make movie only copies, and that's why/how I decided to use BD-9 instead of BD-5.

[saphire199]

When I only had the PS3, I could only make movie only copies, and that's why/how I decided to use BD-9 instead of BD-5.

OK, that raises another question - what happened when you tried to play full back ups on the PS3? As I said in my first post, I have only made movie only copies and have had no problem playing on PS3. But now I am making a full back up of The Mummy to try it out (BD25) so I hope I am not gonna run into something!

Also, where do you get BD25 for $4.40 each. Lowest I've been able to find were almost $6. And what kind are they? Thanks.

[Furiousflea]

OK, that raises another question - what happened when you tried to play full back ups on the PS3? As I said in my first post, I have only made movie only copies and have had no problem playing on PS3. But now I am making a full back up of The Mummy to try it out (BD25) so I hope I am not gonna run into something!

Also, where do you get BD25 for $4.40 each. Lowest I've been able to find were almost $6. And what kind are they? Thanks.

Doesn't the PS3 support ANYTHING on proper BD-R\RE media?

I think it's just on BD5\BD9 the PS3 chokes on anything except pure movie only material?

Please clarify.

[GaPony]

The PS3 will play a Full Movie or Movie Only copy on BD-25. (BD-R or BD-RE media)

The PS3 will play a Movie Only copy on BD9/BD5

The PS3 sees a Full Movie on BD9/BD5 as a data disc. You can navigate to the BDMV/STREAMS folder and play each .m2ts file individually, but thats a useless endeavour. The PS3 will not play a Full Movie on BD9/BD5 in any normal fashion... period.

I hope this helps...

[deank]

I'm quite sure that it would play it after some small adjustments to certain files and soon PS3 owners will enjoy the feature, too.

[GaPony]

OK, that raises another question - what happened when you tried to play full back ups on the PS3? As I said in my first post, I have only made movie only copies and have had no problem playing on PS3. But now I am making a full back up of The Mummy to try it out (BD25) so I hope I am not gonna run into something!

Also, where do you get BD25 for $4.40 each. Lowest I've been able to find were almost $6. And what kind are they? Thanks.

I've normally been using the Verbatim BD-R 25 media, and got them for $5.49 during a sale, but I also bought a 25-pack of RiData BD-25 (2x) and found them to be very good. Not the fastest media in the world to burn, but thats not a big deal (About 40 minutes to burn). The price was right and the media works well... Currrently $4.25 per disc.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817132059

Keep an eye on this one, it goes on sale fairly often...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817130047

[GaPony]

I'm quite sure that it would play it after some small adjustments to certain files and soon PS3 owners will enjoy the feature, too.

I have no way of knowing what will be. I'm just explaining what is... If you have some information that will make a Full Movie on BD9/BD5 playable on the PS3, I'll be glad to get it from you.

A player will either support BD9/BD5 playback or it won't. Many do, the PS3 doesn't. Its pure luck, I think, that it sees a movie only as AVCHD and will play those.

[deank]

Okay :) Let's rephrase it: It does play them. PS3 requires some more info in some files when using DVD media to go into AVCHD mode (avoiding DATA DISC message) but then the full menu functionality is preserved (at least HDMV content, not sure about BDJ).

[Furiousflea]

Okay :) Let's rephrase it: It does play them. PS3 requires some more info in some files when using DVD media to go into AVCHD mode (avoiding DATA DISC message) but then the full menu functionality is preserved (at least HDMV content, not sure about BDJ).

BDJ has been confirmed to 100% not work under any circumstances on BD5\9.

Just to wrap things up :)

[saphire199]

The PS3 will play a Full Movie or Movie Only copy on BD-25. (BD-R or BD-RE media)

The PS3 will play a Movie Only copy on BD9/BD5

The PS3 sees a Full Movie on BD9/BD5 as a data disc. You can navigate to the BDMV/STREAMS folder and play each .m2ts file individually, but thats a useless endeavour. The PS3 will not play a Full Movie on BD9/BD5 in any normal fashion... period.

I hope this helps...

Yes it does help and it fits with what I want to do anyway. If I want to make a full movie copy, I do it on BD25. Movie only, I can get away with BD5or9 depending on size of movie itself. So thanks GaPony.

[deank]

I can post a small tool I wrote for those willing to test with their BD players and/or Playstation3. It will make a full movie backup to play as expected - with no glitches either from DVD5/9 or USB hdd. I believe jdobbs will include it in some of next BDRB versions.

Here it is.

http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD.jpg
(http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe)

Self-extractable .7zip. Contains: goBD.exe (74KB) and calclib.dll (http://www.calcitapp.com/) (1,4MB). If you're going to test on PS3 with USB hdd you need to apply AVCHDme or some other tool that will make filenames 8.3. For DVD - just burn it and see for yourself.

It will touch only your main index.bdmv file. If it doesn't work you may try processing index.bdmv in BACKUP folder, as it is not processed. No other files are changed in any way. The tool adds a small portion of information to force your player in AVCHD mode, but once in this mode player should treat the content as it is (be it BD or AVCHD) despite AVCHD restrictions. I hope someone will go forward and test it with their stand-alone-player and then report. It works flawlessly in PS3.

Dean

[deank]

BDJ has been confirmed to 100% not work under any circumstances on BD5\9.

Just to wrap things up :)

Not to argue with you... Take a look here. (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1255369#post1255369)

You can also add PS3 as a player that plays BD content written on DVD.

[jdobbs]

I can post a small tool I wrote for those willing to test with their BD players and/or Playstation3. It will make a full movie backup to play as expected - with no glitches either from DVD5/9 or USB hdd. I believe jdobbs will include it in some of next BDRB versions.

Here it is.

http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/gobd.jpg
(http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/gobd-tool.exe)

Self-extractable .7zip. Contains: goBD.exe and calclib.dll. If you're going to test on PS3 with USB hdd you need to apply AVCHDme or some other tool that will make filenames 8.3. For DVD - just burn it and see for yourself.

It will touch only your index.bdmv file.Any interested: Please try this. This could make a lot of users very happy if it is proven through testing!

[GaPony]

I'll take a whack or two or five at it... :)

[jdobbs]

Cool. deanK and I have been exchanging PMs related to this and other things. If this works as well as it looks like it will, it will be implemented directly into BD-RB. Unfortunately I don't have a PS3, so I can't even test it.

[GaPony]

RE: Go BD utility... My initial PS3 tests of a full copy to BD9 for Hancock and Traitor proved unsuccessful. The discs were recognized by the PS3 as an AVCHD disc, but were still unplayable.

I'll try a few more over the weekend.

[turbojet]

Using goBD a Panasonic BD30 gave incompatible disk errors on 2 full copies, one with BD-J other with HDMV menu.
BD-J never played even before GoBD.
HDMV without GoBD plays the title logo but spits out the dvd when it gets to the menu.

[deank]

@GaPony: That's odd. I hope that at least PS3 will handle it. All my tests are successful. I first try on external HDD and then burn to DVD. Also - can you test with nero or tmt? These all scenarios work for me. What happens exactly when you play the disc?

I managed to play few BD movies and some samples turbojet provided with java menus. I can't think what can be different.. ps3 models or firmware versions or what....

My PS3 is a rather old - one of the first released in Europe on 27/03/2007 (I bought it first thing in the early morning :) ) PAL 60GB (CECHCxx (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Retail_configurations)) no longer in production. FW 2.60.

Also in these specs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PlayStation_3#Multimedia) you can see that PS3 handles:

AVCHD (.m2ts / .mts),

DVD Video (Region Locked),

BD Video format on Blu-ray disc (Region Locked),

BD Video format on DVD-ROM

So it could be burner book-type or something else preventing some PS3s to play BD video on DVD, but not hardware inability.

The more people test it - the better chance to find out what the problem is. It will be sad to leave things that way. As I said - it always worked for me.

[GaPony]

Go BD is doing something... I'm just not sure what. These same movies (before the patch) were recognized as data discs, and post-patch are recognized as AVCHD discs. Unfortunately, it just won't play. When seen as a data disc it could be explored and each .m2ts file could be played individually, but the disc cannot be explored as an AVCHD disc.

I've attached the patched index file and the original (backup) index file for Hancock (Full Movie to BD9).

I hope this helps. Let me know if you need more information.

[deank]

You can always explore any type of media by "triangle"/"Display All". My tests are with standard DVD (BD5). I'll test more next day with DVD9. When you "X" on DVD/AVCHD icon in XMB does it immediately gives error "This video content cannot be played"/"Unsupported format" or something like these?

[GaPony]

In this case the error is: "This video cannot be played (80029945)" It cannot be explored with the PS3.

Hancock may not be the best choice, since its problematic under the best case scenario. I'm working on a an "easier" movie now and I'll run it to BD5.

[deank]

You're right. When USB hdd is used then you can browse.

There is something I found out just now. It seems there is a PAL/NTSC flag in the extended part of an AVCHD index.bdmv and goBD sets it to NTSC.

http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/gobd.jpg

I'll update the link so if anyone wants to try with the new version in a bit.

Here is a link to the new one. (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/goBD.exe) It is just the .exe. You'll need calclib.dll (http://multiavchd.deanbg.com/calclib.dll) if you deleted the former.

[GaPony]

The link doesn't work...

[deank]

Sorry the server is down. I changed it to my server. It should work.

[GaPony]

Thanks... its working now.. :)

[turbojet]

Same incompatible disk error on panasonic BD30 with either 00100 or 00200.

Gapony: did you mean the link is working now or goBD is working for PS3 now?

[deank]

I updated the .exe so now 0100 will be applied to movieobject/clpi/mpls files. Give it a try when you have time.

[saphire199]

I can post a small tool I wrote for those willing to test with their BD players and/or Playstation3. It will make a full movie backup to play as expected - with no glitches either from DVD5/9 or USB hdd. I believe jdobbs will include it in some of next BDRB versions.

Here it is.

http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD.jpg
(http://212.36.7.36/sub/new/goBD-tool.exe)

Self-extractable .7zip. Contains: goBD.exe (74KB) and calclib.dll (http://www.calcitapp.com/) (1,4MB). If you're going to test on PS3 with USB hdd you need to apply AVCHDme or some other tool that will make filenames 8.3. For DVD - just burn it and see for yourself.

It will touch only your main index.bdmv file. If it doesn't work you may try processing index.bdmv in BACKUP folder, as it is not processed. No other files are changed in any way. The tool adds a small portion of information to force your player in AVCHD mode, but once in this mode player should treat the content as it is (be it BD or AVCHD) despite AVCHD restrictions. I hope someone will go forward and test it with their stand-alone-player and then report. It works flawlessly in PS3.

Dean

Can you please outline when in the processing of the movie to use goBD? Is it after you have encoded with BD RB? Or before?

Also, just doublechecking - if you are burning right to disk, you don't need to apply the AVCHDme tool if you do have PS3? And if you do need to use the tool, where would this go in the steps?

Sorry if this seems obvious to everyone else, I just want to make sure.

[deank]

Please do not use goBD if everything works for you. It is a test tool for those having problems with full/movie-only backups that will not play on their sap/ps3.

You can use goBD before writing BD-RB output to DVD or after you copy the output to external USB HDD.

You need AVCHDme ONLY when writing to USB/SD card/MS card - never for optical media as DVD/BD.

1) Use BD-RB on your movie backup
2) Write to DVD and test in you PS3/SAP
3) If movie doesn't play then you go to 4)
4) Apply goBD to index.bdmv (stored on you HDD) - also set movie type PAL/NTSC and check the INDX0100 checkbox
5) Write again to DVD or copy to USB and test with PS3/SAP.

[turbojet]

Same incompatible disk error on Panasonic BD30 with latest goBD and 0100 checked.

[saphire199]

Please do not use goBD if everything works for you. It is a test tool for those having problems with full/movie-only backups that will not play on their sap/ps3.



If I burn a movie only, it plays on my PS3, either DVD 5 or 9. I tried making a full backup with Space Chimps and PS3 saw it as a data disk only. That is why I wanted to try goBD to see if it would help with full movie back up.

Now I know this might be a bit off topic, but I am not familiar with Nero and am having a hard time picking out which methods I should be using to burn BD data to a DVD. Which Nero are you using? If you could help me out on this, I would appreciate it. I have been using Imgburn, which is very easy for all my burning, but I see that you mention using nero, so I want to stay with the same methods as you to see what happens. Thank you.

[deank]

I never said anything about Nero Burning Rom - I always use ImgBurn. Probably I mentioned Nero Showtime for playback testing before burning to DVD.

[saphire199]

[QUOTE=deank; I first try on external HDD and then burn to DVD. Also - can you test with nero or tmt? These all scenarios work for me. What happens exactly when you play the disc?
.[/QUOTE]

OK, this is what threw me off. I see now you are talking about testing the viewing, not the burning with Nero.

To continue with Space Chimps I reencoded the full movie with BD RB (20gb to 4.17gb). Showed up on PS3 as data disk. Then used goBD and re-burned. Now the disk doesn't show up at all - I mean I put it in, the PS3 doesn't even show there is a disk in the drive. Streams do play with Nero. Any ideas?

[deank]

Well, I'm out of ideas. Can you copy this content to USB disc, apply AVCHDme/AVCHD_Manager and try with PS3?

[saphire199]

Well, I'm out of ideas. Can you copy this content to USB disc, apply AVCHDme/AVCHD_Manager and try with PS3?

I suppose I could do this, but unless this will somehow help you find an answer, it is not worth it for me. I don't want to use a USB connection to my PS3 to contain movies, I want a DVD library. If there is not a way to copy a full movie back up to DVD5 or 9, I will just use it for movie-only and if I want a full disk back up, I will do it on BD25. To me, that seems the simplest solution at this point.

[Furiousflea]

Updated guide a bit hope it's of use

[ibanez]

[deleted - worked out that m2ts files do not contain chapter information which is why I don't have chapters when playing the m2ts file - will try converting to MKV and importing chapters from eac3to if using with WD TV media player.]

[A.Fenderson]

Updated guide a bit hope it's of use

Great guide, thank you. :)

[Furiousflea]

Great guide, thank you. :)

Pleasure...will be adding pics and stuff soon. Just need to get some spare time to settle down and use this thing in my head called a brain lol.

[GaPony]

Come on... just how much time does it take to fill the brain of a flea... even a furious one? :D

[Furiousflea]

Come on... just how much time does it take to fill the brain of a flea... even a furious one? :D

ohhh but I'm a very furious one. :angry:

;) will do it today :)

[A.Fenderson]

I'm trying to make a BD9 copy of my HD-DVD of 12 Monkeys: after I extract the streams and try to drag them over into tsMuxeR GUI 1.84, the subtitle track causes an error "Unsupported Format: Can't detect stream type. File name: "C:...1_7_subtitle.sup" So I left the subs off--any thoughts on this?

I did find one issue that may give you cause to revise the HD-DVD -> Blu-ray section of your guide: since you stated that I could safely skip the step of specifying the language of the audio track I'm using in tsMuxer, I did skip it: after I mux everything, when I try importing the resulting BD structure into BD-Rebuilder, it recognizes the presence of an audio track (AC3, converted from original EAC3) but puts a red "x" on it, and my resulting m2ts/bd9-burn both have no sound at all--I believe this to be a result of the fact that tsMuxer doesn't tag it with a language type (since I don't force it to), then (as per your recommendations in the main body of the guide) I instruct BD-Rebuilder to throw out all audio tracks aside from those tagged as my native language--hence no sound. If instead I specify that the audio is in fact "English" when in tsMuxer, then the audio track appears with its proper icon when shown in BD-Rebuilder (and presumably it will not be stripped from the final disc, but I have to reencode to verify).

Thanks for the guide! :-)

[setarip_old]

@A.Fenderson

Hi!it recognizes the presence of an audio track (AC3, converted from original EAC3) but puts a red "x" on itHave you tried simply clicking on the red "X"?

[pkho]

I updated the .exe so now 0100 will be applied to movieobject/clpi/mpls files. Give it a try when you have time.

Tried your latest GoBD with no luck.

Test Full movie of Quantum of Solace on BD5.

Before patch PS3 see the disc as Data disc.

After GoBD patch PS3's HDD flash for a while then nothing as if there is no disc inside.

But TMT can playback both before and after BD5 disc with all menus and extras. Only problem is that I have downsize from 1080p to 720p so subtitles and popup menu appeared extra large.

Any progress?

[deank]

I PM'd you.

[GaPony]

deank,

I hope you can get this working for the US version of the PS3. You'll be a real popular guy. :)

[deank]

The index file I got from pkho is entirely BD-J - no HDMV titles. I doubt that such content will ever play on PS3 if burnt to DVD media.

[A.Fenderson]

@A.Fenderson

Hi!Have you tried simply clicking on the red "X"?

No, I didn't try that, but it was simple and fast enough to mux again and provide the necessary language type, and BD-Rebuilder then seems to incorporate the audio since it matches the specified language to keep. Or I could have just changed the setting in BD-Rebuilder to allow any type of audio, but it was late at night and I wasn't thinking clearly. ;-)

[Badness]

Have a question concerning BDRebuilder, which I know is still Beta, but not sure if it is a program issue or maybe I missed something. I am backing up the movie Troy, which is over 3 hrs long, so i did a "Move Only" on a BD9. I expeceted the .m2ts file to be around 8.5GB, but the resulting file ended up being 6.5GB. Any reason why this may have happened? Also, one more thing concerning the burn. It says to burn the "Working Directory" of BDRebuilder on IMGBurn, however that all the files in the directory add up to 15GB, plus the structure of the output directory doesn't have the Bluray Folder structure. Am I missing something? Thanks again.

[A.Fenderson]

Not sure about the size, unless the latest beta moved down the target size for BD9 or something strange happened like your audio didn't get remuxed...? Last time I made several BD9s with default size target, they all ended up being right around "7.5GB" or 8,000 MB.
You don't want to burn the working directory since it has both the full set of actual "working" files and the completed BD-structure within it (like you said, it's twice the size of a dual layer DVD). Look for the new folder that is named similarly to the folder you told BD to look for the rip in (it should contain a BDMV folder and some other folder within it)--use the contents of this folder as the root of the disc you're burning.

[Badness]

Not sure about the size, unless the latest beta moved down the target size for BD9 or something strange happened like your audio didn't get remuxed...? Last time I made several BD9s with default size target, they all ended up being right around "7.5GB" or 8,000 MB.
You don't want to burn the working directory since it has both the full set of actual "working" files and the completed BD-structure within it (like you said, it's twice the size of a dual layer DVD). Look for the new folder that is named similarly to the folder you told BD to look for the rip in (it should contain a BDMV folder and some other folder within it)--use the contents of this folder as the root of the disc you're burning.

Thanks Fenderson. You were spot on as the Troy final directory was there next to the Working Files and I never looked in there. The m2ts file in there was a good length. Appreciated the prompt response.

[archaeo]

How about your BDRB output to DVD5?
Are you guys getting close to a full disc?
BDRebuilder is outputting my DVD5 BD's at around 4.15Gb consistently - very little variation. Any recommendation on what settings I might tweak to bump that up closer to 4.33 or so?

[Furiousflea]

How about your BDRB output to DVD5?
Are you guys getting close to a full disc?
BDRebuilder is outputting my DVD5 BD's at around 4.15Gb consistently - very little variation. Any recommendation on what settings I might tweak to bump that up closer to 4.33 or so?

4480 ;)

This, if targetting is bang on will give you 4.37GB which is the capacity of a DVD+R. I'd go for 4430...

That is if you really are hitting that same 4.15 give or take 20mb.

[A.Fenderson]

Good to know for custom-sized BD5--I haven't tried any yet.

What value is anyone finding ideal for custom size to fit on BD9 and squeeze every last bit of space out of the disk? The default size consistently comes out in the same small range, but a bit on the small size relative to the available disc space--I hate to waste any space on the disc. I think I once got "8200" to work, but wondering if with the small variation in output size if this has ever backfired and gone slightly over, and if so what would be ideal.

[Furiousflea]

Good to know for custom-sized BD5--I haven't tried any yet.

What value is anyone finding ideal for custom size to fit on BD9 and squeeze every last bit of space out of the disk? The default size consistently comes out in the same small range, but a bit on the small size relative to the available disc space--I hate to waste any space on the disc. I think I once got "8200" to work, but wondering if with the small variation in output size if this has ever backfired and gone slightly over, and if so what would be ideal.

8140 is the capacity of a DVD9.

However, like doing DVD5s (but moreso) your output can vary.

With 8140 set I have output ranging from 7.8GB-8.1GB. Generally around 7.9GB. It's not worth going any higher and, to me at least it doesn't feel right going any lower :)

I used to use 8200, but I think jdobbs has changed the calculation to more truely represent what your output will be so using that will certainly give you oversize in a lot of cases. I find that the more m2ts your backup has the more chance of oversize occuring.

If your disc consists of basically a trailer and the movie for example. It's a good idea to try 8120\8140 (if your feeling adventurous lol)

[archaeo]

4480 ;)

This, if targetting is bang on will give you 4.37GB which is the capacity of a DVD+R. I'd go for 4430...

That is if you really are hitting that same 4.15 give or take 20mb.

will give that a go :thanks:

[A.Fenderson]

8140 is the capacity of a DVD9.
...
I used to use 8200, but I think jdobbs has changed the calculation to more truely represent what your output will be so using that will certainly give you oversize in a lot of cases. I find that the more m2ts your backup has the more chance of oversize occuring.

If your disc consists of basically a trailer and the movie for example. It's a good idea to try 8120\8140 (if your feeling adventurous lol)

Great, thanks for the info--I've only ever done "movie only" backups, so I guess that's why they were all coming out to a very predictable, consistent size; didn't realize more m2ts's would cause potential variation in output size, good to know!

[Furiousflea]

Great, thanks for the info--I've only ever done "movie only" backups, so I guess that's why they were all coming out to a very predictable, consistent size; didn't realize more m2ts's would cause potential variation in output size, good to know!

I must stress there is no hard and fast rule. I'm sure someone will come along and say that it's not strictly true. But for all intents and purposes...

More m2ts\extras\audio\sub tracks = more variation :)

Good luck!

[kyoshiro378]

anyone know what this problem. please tell me.... i hope got tjis answer. thanks...

[Furiousflea]

anyone know what this problem. please tell me.... i hope got tjis answer. thanks...

Next time upload your jpeg screenshots to a free image hosting service so we can help you straight away and save bandwidth for doom9.org. If you must use an attachment, at least give an explanation of the problem.

[kyoshiro378]

son you know this problem mr furiousflea. can you help me mr?

[ozmale]

Guys.
This is a little hard to explain. When using BD rebuilder if you wanted say "french" subtitles to be included you would just select them in setup etc.
However some English sound track films often just have a couple of words often spoken in a different language but not a full subtitle.

To ensure these are included in other transccoders (e.g. Clonedvd2) you select "Unspecified Subtitle". Can anyone tell me what to select to get them included in BD rebuilder?

There seems to be a number of English catagories in the subtitle list.

[Furiousflea]

Guys.
This is a little hard to explain. When using BD rebuilder if you wanted say "french" subtitles to be included you would just select them in setup etc.
However some English sound track films often just have a couple of words often spoken in a different language but not a full subtitle.

To ensure these are included in other transccoders (e.g. Clonedvd2) you select "Unspecified Subtitle". Can anyone tell me what to select to get them included in BD rebuilder?

There seems to be a number of English catagories in the subtitle list.

Technically, well, normally really they are called "forced subtitles". Anyways...I nope I don't think BDRB distinguishes between the different types...e.g SDH\Forced\Normal subs...

They will just appear as another subtitle track in your language...

Personally speaking, I just leave all the subs for my language (english) and forget about it...They don't take up that much space.

[Category 5]

Technically, well, normally really they are called "forced subtitles". Anyways...I nope I don't think BDRB distinguishes between the different types...e.g SDH\Forced\Normal subs...

They will just appear as another subtitle track in your language...

Personally speaking, I just leave all the subs for my language (english) and forget about it...They don't take up that much space.

...but how do you get them to be forced? I did a movie only backup and must select sub track 2 manually. On the original disc they are forced.

I see an option under "movie only" for forced subs, but it is always greyed out.

[deank]

...but how do you get them to be forced? I did a movie only backup and must select sub track 2 manually. On the original disc they are forced.

You can use this small tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146412) if you want them "on" by default.

"Forced" and and "on-by-default" are two different things. Forced subtitles (PGS) have a special flag (located in the m2ts file) which tells the player that subtitles will appear always, no matter what user chooses. The other "normal" subtitles can be switched on and off.

[Category 5]

You can use this small tool (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=146412) if you want them "on" by default.

"Forced" and and "on-by-default" are two different things. Forced subtitles (PGS) have a special flag (located in the m2ts file) which tells the player that subtitles will appear always, no matter what user chooses. The other "normal" subtitles can be switched on and off.

Thanks. That's what I wanted. So if I keep subtitle 1 and subtitle 6 from the original disc, and I want subtitle 6 to be on by default when I edit my movie only folder do I select subtitle 2 or subtitle 6? In other words, will it stay named six or will it become 2 since there are only 2 subtitle options now?

[deank]

I don't know if 2 or 6 is the correct one. Play the movie-only backup with a software player before burning and you'll see which subs you enabled.

[Wolfe999]

@furiousflea: I tried to follow your HD DVD-->BluRay easy guide with the movie 300. In Stream Extractor I chose the True HD audio and one sub, which only lets you output in sup format. But Tsmuxer doesn't accept thd & sup files. Any easy solution? I'm extracting it now choosing the ac3 audio.

Regards

[turbojet]

For audio try adding AC3 core with eac3to cli: eac3to <input> <output>.thd+AC3

For sup try loading HD-DVD sup into BDSup2Sub and output BD sup. SUPread is another option.

[Wolfe999]

@turbojet: thanx for your suggestions. I already had chosen the e-ac3 audio, and BDSup2Sub was easy & quick. But I forgot that almost or all the HD DVD titles were made by Warner, soy all use the VC-1 codec. I think that will be an unsurmountable barrier. If you have an idea, I'll appreciate it. Now I'm gonna sleep because I'm falling over the keyboard.

regards
Wolfe :)

(edit to explain):
I tried to use through ffdshow VC-1 --> libav"etc" (I don't remember the name now) and also WMV9, but always got an error from BD-Rebuilder whenever it began to encode de video.

[hoju3508]

:thanks: Now I know.


If burning to BD-RE the space available isn't as high as BD-R by default. To make it so you can write as much to a BD-RE as a BD-R....

Start Imgburn
Tools -> Settings -> "Write tab" -> "Prefer format without spare areas" check box.

Now whne you next format you BD-RE with Imgburn it will hold as much as a normal BD-R

[saphire199]

Just a question - how do you go back to an earlier version of BDRB? When I ran into a bug with the new beta (0.24.01) I tried to go back to earlier version and got a message that the beta had expired and to update to a newer version.

saphire199

[jdobbs]

Just a question - how do you go back to an earlier version of BDRB? When I ran into a bug with the new beta (0.24.01) I tried to go back to earlier version and got a message that the beta had expired and to update to a newer version.

saphire199 All the betas have a timeout. That's so I don't have to readdress old bugs/reports. I just uploaded v0.24.2... try that one.

[saphire199]

Thank you JD, I am giving the new version a spin. Ok, another question. If for some reason, a clip (ie, m2ts file) does not encode properly (BDRB says encode failed) and you then hit the backup button, BDRB gives you a choice of re-starting the project from where you left off. If this happens on any extra clips, will the outcome of the rest of the rebuild be ok so that it will burn and play, or is it that if ANY encode fails, the whole project is no good. Thank you.

saphire199

[jdobbs]

Thank you JD, I am giving the new version a spin. Ok, another question. If for some reason, a clip (ie, m2ts file) does not encode properly (BDRB says encode failed) and you then hit the backup button, BDRB gives you a choice of re-starting the project from where you left off. If this happens on any extra clips, will the outcome of the rest of the rebuild be ok so that it will burn and play, or is it that if ANY encode fails, the whole project is no good. Thank you.

saphire199 If it can pick up where it left off, everything will be fine. But if you try to skip over anything it will not.

[happycase]

Does BD RD work just as well with makemkv, DumpHD, or DVD Fab HD as it does with Any DVD HD? Is it compatible with the aforementioned programs?

[setarip_old]

@happycase

Hi!Does BD RD work just as well with makemkv, DumpHD, or DVD Fab HD as it does with Any DVD HD?Yes, it does.

However, since the author, "JDobbs" relies solely on "AnyDVDHD", you'll not get any support regarding problems that may arise from an "other than AnyDVDHD" BluRay rip you create...

BTW - If you use "MakeMKV", you'll first have to convert the resultant MKV file to a BluRay "package", using "tsMuxeR" (A simple procedure that takes but a few minutes)