Full HD camera

[juGGaKNot]

I was looking for a full hd camera ( <500$ ) and i found Xacti DMX-FH11 and DMX-HD2000 that record at 60 FPS

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/090121-01-01-b.jpg

I was thinking of a 30 FPS camera but if i can get 60 why not ? :)

What do you think of xacti cameras ? i'm reading that the material is compressed a lot and the video quality is k only with good light, is this true ?

Do any people here have xacti models ?

Do you think other producers will make 60 fps ( or more ) models ?

For home videos ( hence the max 500$ budget )

thnx, cheers.

BTW : if i posted in the wrong section ( did not find other ) please move.

[DJ Bobo]

It costs way more than 500$, the HD1000 is for less than 500.
I'd rather buy a higher quality HDD camcorder with a 1.07MP sensor or more though.

[juGGaKNot]

It costs way more than 500$, the HD1000 is for less than 500.
I'd rather buy a higher quality HDD camcorder with a 1.07MP sensor or more though.

Dunno if HDD is my thing, flash maybe :P

From what i read :

AVCHD and HDV are very compressed; AVCHD is more compressed than HDV
That causes problems if you are going to be doing any wild effects and/or compositing
DVCProHD and XDCam HD are less compressed.

So a AVCHD 12 mb-16 mb + heavy compozition/fx + render at 12 mb final x264 = crap ?


If you shoot in controlled environtments and you have time to offload footage from cards to laptops, DVCPro HD and XDCam HD may be the way to go

So it will look better but still suck ?


If I wanted to record uncompressed video, I would want HD-SDI outputs too

From what i see cameras that record uncompressed 720p/1080p/108060p cost very much ..

Cam i think of compozition when i'm talking about a <500 $ camera ?

[2Bdecided]

If you want good pictures, you need to buy a good camera!

The Canon HV30 can be found for $500.

If that's not good enough, you'll have to spend more.

Cheers,
David.

[juGGaKNot]

If you want good pictures, you need to buy a good camera!

The Canon HV30 can be found for $500.

If that's not good enough, you'll have to spend more.

Cheers,
David.

I can go up to 800 i guess

but i want to to video effects and composition on the footage, from what i see there all compressed at 12-16 mb ( AVCHD ones )

Does anyone here do composition/fx on the footage captured ?

This is the question now, forget the first post for now.

Cheers.

[mariner]

I was looking for a full hd camera ( <500$ ) and i found Xacti DMX-FH11 and DMX-HD2000 that record at 60 FPS


Greetings juGGaKNot.

Are these 1080/60i or1080/60p?

Thanks.

[juGGaKNot]

Greetings juGGaKNot.

Are these 1080/60i or1080/60p?

Thanks.

There 1080P 60P, the launch was 06 this month.

[mariner]

Thank. This would be the first 1080/60p camcorder for consumer?

[smok3]

I can go up to 800 i guess

but i want to to video effects and composition on the footage, from what i see there all compressed at 12-16 mb ( AVCHD ones )

Does anyone here do composition/fx on the footage captured ?

This is the question now, forget the first post for now.

Cheers.

sure, you can do a lot, if your goal is SD out, but even then some things like chroma key aren't gonna happen nicely.

i think your minimum should be something like pano hvx-200 (or similar new edition...), that is something that doesn't use hdv or avchd.

edit: this seems to be new in that range
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=280234&catGroupId=34401&surfModel=AG-HPX170
(but i'am not really following this lately)

[juGGaKNot]

Thank. This would be the first 1080/60p camcorder for consumer?

Its xacti so yes.

sure, you can do a lot, if your goal is SD out, but even then some things like chroma key aren't gonna happen nicely.

i think your minimum should be something like pano hvx-200 (or similar new edition...), that is something that doesn't use hdv or avchd.

edit: this seems to be new in that range
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=280234&catGroupId=34401&surfModel=AG-HPX170
(but i'am not really following this lately)

My goal is 1920x1080 camera footage mixed with 1920x1080 180 FPS ( 1000 FPS sampling ) game footage.

I was looking at that xacti because it has 60 FPS and i want to render at 60 FPS final ( 108060p )

thnx for the links, i will take a look.

LE : 6000$ hmm, way to much, just home videos :)

[Atak_Snajpera]

If I were you I would buy Canon HF10/100 . Quality is absolutely awesome and price is quite low. I can upload sample if you want.

[SeeMoreDigital]

Panasonic's HDC-SD9 is a pretty good choice too....

Well priced, captures AVC video at 1920x1080 interlaced or progressive directly onto SD cards.

New models are about to be launched but they're quite pricey.

[juGGaKNot]

If I were you I would buy Canon HF10/100 . Quality is absolutely awesome and price is quite low. I can upload sample if you want.

Heard that canon first renders interlaced than converts to progresive.

Panasonic's HDC-SD9 is a pretty good choice too....

Well priced, captures AVC video at 1920x1080 interlaced or progressive directly onto SD cards.

New models are about to be launched but they're quite pricey.

I will check them out, atak please upload if you can today ( wireless net at home, going to a net cafe today, 8-10 hours )

Cheers.

[JohnnyMalaria]

Any camcorder is only as good as the glass in front of it. <$500 for a 1080/60p? Sounds too good to be true. Are there any reviews with test charts etc?

[Atak_Snajpera]

Canon HF100 NTSC 29.97p
http://www.mediafire.com/?nmx5jytzwyd

[juGGaKNot]

Any camcorder is only as good as the glass in front of it. <$500 for a 1080/60p? Sounds too good to be true. Are there any reviews with test charts etc?

http://www.geek.com/articles/gadgets/hands-on-sanyo-vpc-fh1-and-vpc-hd2000-20090121/

You have a sample here :

http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_sanyo_xacti_hd2000_3.php

http://img.photographyblog.com/reviews/sanyo_xacti_hd2000/sample_images/sanyo_xacti_hd2000_01.mp4 direct link

I think is sux, looks interlaced to me

This is a sample movie at the quality setting of 1920 ×1080 pixels at 60 frames per second. Please note that this 35 second movie is 71.5Mb in size.

also http://www.ephotozine.com/article/Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD2000-11036 :

Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD2000: Plus points
Small body
Full 1080p HD video
8Mp digital stills
10x optical zoom
Takes SDHC cards

Sanyo Xacti VPC-HD2000: Minus points
Suffers from lens flare
Bad noise performance
Flat colours

Canon HF100 NTSC 29.97p
http://www.mediafire.com/?nmx5jytzwyd

THNX, i downloaded some samples of the web and i'm not really happy ( evan a pro 720P 60FPS sample sux )

[JohnnyMalaria]

Thanks for the links. The video sample is still downloading but the stills answer the question. They look terrible. The chromatic aberration is dreadful and they look like they are from a video and a washed-out one at that.

Coupling poor optics with a pistol-grip form factor pretty much renders HD pointless. The amount of shake would introduce so much motion compensation in the video. It would be a useful glove compartment accessory for those unexpected CNN moments or shaky YouTube videos.

[juGGaKNot]

Canon HF100 NTSC 29.97p
http://www.mediafire.com/?nmx5jytzwyd

Looks good but it "skippes" from time to time, see :

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/Problem_fullhd.jpg

I'm guessing its a hardware/codec problem and not camera/encoding problem

Also i see with media info :

Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Interlaced ??????????
Scan order : Top Field First

Thanks for the links. The video sample is still downloading but the stills answer the question. They look terrible. The chromatic aberration is dreadful and they look like they are from a video and a washed-out one at that.

Coupling poor optics with a pistol-grip form factor pretty much renders HD pointless. The amount of shake would introduce so much motion compensation in the video. It would be a useful glove compartment accessory for those unexpected CNN moments or shaky YouTube videos.

Please post about it

BTW atak i'm doing some editing on your clip in vegas ( random ) what should i render it out for ripbot ? uncompressed ?

[Atak_Snajpera]

it looks good on my PC. Don't use internal filters in MPC. Instead you should use latest FFDshow as decoder!

[juGGaKNot]

it looks good on my PC. Don't use internal filters in MPC. Instead you should use latest FFDshow as decoder!

Yes, software problem as i said

About your clip, how should i render it ? AVC from vegas ( AVCHD is only 1440x1080 ), main profile, cabac and 10.000 bitrate, m2ts/mp4/avc ?

or should i render uncompressed than use ripbot.

Cheers.

[Atak_Snajpera]

You should ALWAYS render to LOSSLESS format (HuffYUV for example) and then encode using your fav gui :)

[juGGaKNot]

Well there is no gui for me, just ripbot or bat.

I'm rendering uncompressed ( at 4% after 10 minutes, 4 hours to go )

If it looks good than i'm happy, will post the sample soon ( or later because i use tesa :P )

Thnx for the sample and the suport.

LE :
I'm rendering uncompressed ( at 4% after 10 minutes, 4 hours to go )

Scratch that, i'm rendering with huffyuv mt ( 2 threads ) and 2 hours to go.

[Raptus]

About your clip, how should i render it ? ... from vegas
Why don't you frameserve it from Vegas using the debugmode plugin (http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/)? That way you avoid the intermediate file. You might need to render audio separately, but except for that it has worked very well for me in the past.
Besides, for some unknown reason I had image corruption when rendering from Vegas to huffyuv...

[juGGaKNot]

Why don't you frameserve it from Vegas using the debugmode plugin (http://www.debugmode.com/frameserver/)? That way you avoid the intermediate file. You might need to render audio separately, but except for that it has worked very well for me in the past.
Besides, for some unknown reason I had image corruption when rendering from Vegas to huffyuv...

I have to render the audio anyway so its k.

Reading about it, sound great, will try it now.

this is my random render ( resized to 720p will upload 1080p today ) : http://files.filefront.com/res720pmkv/;13289642;/fileinfo.html

And this is the original :

http://www.mediafire.com/?nmx5jytzwyd

What do you think about the quality loss ? is it k or bad ? :)

Cheers.

[mariner]

Greetings juGGaKNot. Thanks for the samples.

Are these recorded using the 60p setting? They appear to be 60i.

Are you aware of other models that record at 1920x1080/60p?

[2Bdecided]

Thanks for the links. The video sample is still downloading but the stills answer the question. They look terrible. The chromatic aberration is dreadful and they look like they are from a video and a washed-out one at that.If you resize them down to 1280x960 they don't look any worse than a certain well respected consumer camcorder. Obviously it looks bad viewing actual pixels at 4000x3000!

The conclusion to the review seems to sum it up quite well...
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_sanyo_xacti_hd2000_6.php

Coupling poor optics with a pistol-grip form factor pretty much renders HD pointless. The amount of shake would introduce so much motion compensation in the video. It would be a useful glove compartment accessory for those unexpected CNN moments or shaky YouTube videos.Depends on the image stabilization. I can't say a pistol grip camera would be my choice either!

Cheers,
David.

[juGGaKNot]

Greetings juGGaKNot. Thanks for the samples.

Are these recorded using the 60p setting? They appear to be 60i.

Are you aware of other models that record at 1920x1080/60p?

That sample is from a review, they say 60P but it looks 60i to me to.

If you resize them down to 1280x960 they don't look any worse than a certain well respected consumer camcorder. Obviously it looks bad viewing actual pixels at 4000x3000!

The conclusion to the review seems to sum it up quite well...
http://www.photographyblog.com/reviews_sanyo_xacti_hd2000_6.php

Depends on the image stabilization. I can't say a pistol grip camera would be my choice either!

Cheers,
David.

[mariner]

...they say 60P but it looks 60i to me to....

..so there is no 1080/60p camcorder available yet..

Thanks for sharing the info.

[juGGaKNot]

..so there is no 1080/60p camcorder available yet..

Thanks for sharing the info.

No, i mean its 60P but it looks like 60i to me ( i think i have a software problem, i see some "interlaced" noise on it )

As for pricing i saw 800$ somewhere, wait for more reviews.

[mariner]

No, i mean its 60P but it looks like 60i to me ( i think i have a software problem, i see some "interlaced" noise on it )

As for pricing i saw 800$ somewhere, wait for more reviews.

The clip is interlaced. It will playback at 30fps with jaggies if you force the decoder to weave (no deinterlace).

[juGGaKNot]

The clip is interlaced. It will playback at 30fps with jaggies if you force the decoder to weave (no deinterlace).

The clip with the ducks right ?

the other clips ( with the car ) are clips from atak's canon fh11 that he uploaded and i used some random fx on.

the sanyo_xacti_hd2000_01.mp4 is the so called 108060p one, if you are talking about it than there you go, the camera does not have real 108060p

To be sure wait for other reviews as i said, that was the only sample ( + the pictures that another user said "sux" )

[juGGaKNot]

So, i will be going with Samsung VP-HMX10C

I will be using a tripod and good light only for the material.

And that's that, 72060P.

[mariner]

Do you have any other suggestions for 1080/60p camcorder?

[juGGaKNot]

Do you have any other suggestions for 1080/60p camcorder?

That is the only one around.

BTW don't ask me for suggestions, i also came here asking.

From what i see a hv30/20/hd11/hf10 will be a better choice for quality that any sanyo.

JVC cams have something called 108060p output but i cannot find anything on it ( i don't think is hd sdi, the cameras are way to cheap )

[zn]

I've got HD700 year ago, and its OK, except dark scenes

[mariner]

That is the only one around....

Thanks.

[mariner]

Played with the Xacti VPC-HD2000 today. It does indeed record at 1920x1080/60p.

Quality is somewhat disappointing, even though it claims 24mbps in the spec sheet.

http://sanyo.com/xacti/english/products/vpc_hd2000/index.html

Thanks again and best regards.

[vsv]

mariner do you have indoor, outdoor samples at 1080p60 ? Thanks.

[mariner]

Here are links to 1920x1080/60p demo clips posted at Japanese sites:

http://ckworks.sakura.ne.jp/data/xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_1_mp4.zip
http://ckworks.sakura.ne.jp/data/xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_2a_mp4.zip
http://88.191.20.67/video/akiba/SANYO_HD2000_1920x1080_60fps.zip

The demo clips looked great, but mine showed pixelation and compression artifacts, similar to those posted by juGGaKNot. Perhaps a pair of steady hands needed here.

[smok3]

if there is a tripod hole at the bottom, then pistol design could be easily hacked (a stick that fits into the tripod hole + some weight at the end) to an easy to carry (and stable) 'steady'cam.

[mariner]

New HD2000 review at camcorderinfo.com Excellent low light performance.

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/content/Sanyo-Xacti-VPC-HD2000-Camcorder-Review-36280.htm

[SeeMoreDigital]

I wonder why all these Sanyo camcorders shoot only at 30 or 60fps? Even the European models :eek:

[2Bdecided]

I wonder why all these Sanyo camcorders shoot only at 30 or 60fps? Even the European models :eek:That's bad! Mixing/converting frame rates is the biggest pain I have with my own footage.

Cheers,
David.

[Flux]

Anyone have more links for demo clips or something with 1080p60? They look so alive :O

[mariner]

I wonder why all these Sanyo camcorders shoot only at 30 or 60fps? Even the European models :eek:

It would be nice to have 1080/50p as well.

[shinedot]

It would be nice to have 1080/50p as well.

this is very odd that they dont support 1080/50 mode.
and evenn in european version? :/

[juGGaKNot]

Well its better than the HF20 ( also HF200 ) in all sections ( resolution and video sharpness is where the hf20 is better, ( The camcorder measured an approximate video resolution of 800 line widths per picture height (lw/ph) horizontal and 900 lw/ph vertical. This is a huge bump up from the 675 lw/ph horizontal and 600 lw/ph vertical recorded by last year's Canon HF11 )

http://www.camcorderinfo.com/ratings.php

Its better than the 3000$ Sony HDR-FX1000 from their tests.

Wonder how the 1080p60 looks after green background removal and fx ... if it does not suck to much ( some pros say there is not a big gap between 4:2:0 and 4:2:2 and the extra 2 bit that the blackmagic intensity ( 10 bit 4:2:2 ) are null bits ) i'll save 500$.

[drpaulng]

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/1505/dogc.jpg
I have been experimenting with 1920x1080 60p video and tried to figure out a way to get it into practical way of use. After the fall of HDDVD, we've got no choice but bluray which does not support 1920x1080 30p, however, non-standard videos that are not compliant to bluray may still be put into AVCHD. I tried it out with multiAVCHD to see how it goes. The original video is xacti_hd2000_dogsample20090207_2a.mp4, and I re-encoded from it into 3 other formats for comparison in PS3, the result is:

(1)1920x1080 60p stuttering (VERY MINOR MOTION ARTEFACT in PC but the stuttering in PS3 is unacceptable)
(2)1920x1080 60i smooth (MOTION ARTEFACT, may be less optimal than 30p)
(3)1920x1080 30p smooth (MINOR MOTION ARTEFACT)
(4)1920x1080 24p stuttering both in my PC and PS3 (NATIVE ARTEFACT stripping out 60p down to 24p)

The main motion artefact of HD camcorders (CMOS) is rolling shutter effect. With 60p, this artefact is minimized and plays well in PC. However, when getting it into practice, we can authoring the original 60p video into AVCHD, the stuttering is very bad with PS3 but OK with PC. 60i is compliant to the bluray standard. It plays OK with PS3, but the interlaced artefact is quite obvious. 30p is non-compliant to the bluray standard, but it plays OK with PS3 although my TV monitor reports the input as 1080i@60Hz. 24p is a fatal mistake down-converted from 60p, it never plays well both in my PC and PS3.

So, the conclusion is: New Standard meets the bad bluray restriction. It's ahead of time but impractical to be shared through the standalone BD-players such as PS3. The not-so-bad news is that, we can play the second-best 30p authored into AVCHD.

[juGGaKNot]

Or use 40% velocity in vegas and it looks great ( but slow, 40% :P ) and render out 24p that looks great.
Or use 50% velocity in vegas and it looks great ( but slow, 50% :P ) and render out 30p that looks great.

I will upload some tests done by me on this sample sunday, my conclusions :

All files were encoded with CQ 22 default ripbot profile

--level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

The 540p60 version is the only one that works perfect on my x2 4000+ with divx7, my sistem tops out at 720p40 or 1920x1080p24

The mp4 opened in vegas 8.0b and crashed it 2 times, after that it worked like a dream, i did a simple effect ( levels ), rendered uncompressed, 6.8 GB for the 14.6 seconds.

UPDATE : after 2 days it stoped working, had to use Cineform Neo Scene to make it AVI. Samples with "neo" prefix are new encodes.

Overall bit rate : 24.5 Mbps
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : No
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 24.2 Mbps
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 59.940 fps

The motion is to die for i must say, the stabilization sux but with 60 FPS i would say it looks better than optical 24P, tripod/steady is a must.

Quality is k for me ( 22 1080P screen ), if i can do chroma keyer/keylight for green screen captures its on my shopping list.
Also talked to blackmagic people and they say that progresive modes are planned so we might get 10 bit 4:2:2 1080p60 ( or fake 10 bit ) with ~900$ + pc in 6-12 months.

Will see if 8bit 4:2:0 looks much worst than 8 bit 4:2:2 ( read that the blackmagic's last 2 bits are null so its not 10 bit 4:2:2 its 8 bit 4:2:2 ).

Format : MPEG-4
Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames

The encoder uses level high 4.2 with 2 refs, no cabac and variable rate

As for SLOMOTION :

A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 40% can be renderd at 24 FPS for 1080p24 with great results.
A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 50% can be renderd at 30 FPS for 1080p30 with great results.
A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 100% can be renderd at 60 FPS for 1080p60 with great results.

For those with a good pc : does the original look k noise/artefacts wise ? what about my encodes ?

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/sanyo_test.jpg

The only problem i find is that you have to render the whole clip 24 or 40 or 60p, i'm searching for help on a more friendly vegas forum now

Well i have a 1920x1080p60 ( 60 FPS ) clip from a sanyo camcorder and i'm testing some stuff out on it ( thinking of buying )

I make the mp4 into avi using neoscene ( that also takes the color from 4:2:0 to 4:2:2 ) and i open in vegas, the mp4 on it self crashed vegas.

If i render at 60 FPS all is fine

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/24pSLOMO-small.jpg (http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll105/juGGaKNot4cs/24pSLOMO.jpg)

Click for zoom, see screen, when i use velocity 40% ( 40% of 60 FPS is 24 FPS ) it looks great, good slowmotion but the footage at 100% looks bad

If i render at 24 FPS :

With smart resample there is way to much motion blur
With disable resample it looses frames and looks choppy

What should i do ? what can cause this ?

i will upload samples soon.

[Blue_MiSfit]

Try loading one of your 1080p60 files into AviSynth and simply doing AssumeFPS("ntsc_film")

[juGGaKNot]

Try loading one of your 1080p60 files into AviSynth and simply doing AssumeFPS("ntsc_film")

And that will make the slowmotion @ 50% no ? ( 30p with no frame change )

looking for "on the fly" velocity that only an editing program gives you, maybe 100% for 2 seconds, 300 for 5 seconds, 40% for 10 seconds and 100% the rest lets say.

These tests are random, i do not want slomotion, i'm looking at it because of the 60 FPS :)

[juGGaKNot]

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?btbbe2ldwym
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?nye344xmxdd

All files were encoded with CQ 22 default ripbot profile

--level 4.0 --aud --nal-hrd --vbv-bufsize 25000 --vbv-maxrate 25000 --filter 0,0 --ref 3 --mixed-refs --bframes 3 --b-adapt 1 --weightb --direct auto --subme 7 --trellis 1 --partitions all --8x8dct --me umh --threads auto --thread-input --progress --no-psnr --no-ssim

The 540p60 version is the only one that works perfect on my x2 4000+ with divx7, my sistem tops out at 720p40 or 1920x1080p24

The mp4 opened in vegas 8.0b and crashed it 2 times, after that it worked for 2 days, i did a simple effect ( levels ), rendered uncompressed, 6.8 GB for the 14.6 seconds, after 2 days it stoped working, had to use Cineform Neo Scene to make it AVI. Samples with "neo" prefix are new encodes.

Overall bit rate : 24.5 Mbps
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : No
Bit rate mode : Variable
Bit rate : 24.2 Mbps
Frame rate mode : Constant
Frame rate : 59.940 fps

The motion is to die for i must say, the stabilization sux but with 60 FPS i would say it looks better than optical 24P, tripod/steady is a must.

Quality is k for me ( 22 1080P screen ), if i can do chroma keyer/keylight for green screen captures its on my shopping list.
Also talked to blackmagic people and they say that progresive modes are planned so we might get 10 bit 4:2:2 1080p60 ( or 8 bit 4:2:2 , some people say the last 2 blackmagic bits are null ) with ~700$ + pc in 6-12 months.

Format profile : Base Media / Version 2
Codec ID : mp42
Format profile : High@L4.2
Format settings, CABAC : No
Format settings, ReFrames : 2 frames

The encoder uses level high 4.2 with 2 refs, no cabac and variable rate

As for SLOMOTION :

A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 40% can be renderd at 24 FPS for 1080p24
A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 50% can be renderd at 30 FPS for 1080p30
A 60 FPS sanyo clip with velocity ( sony vegas ) set to 100% can be renderd at 60 FPS for 1080p60

For those with a good pc : does the original look k noise/artefacts wise ? what about my encodes ?

[donjoaoresort]

Thank you for the links & post


John
www.donjoaoresortgoa.com (www.donjoaoresortgoa.com)

[juGGaKNot]

Canon S100 reviewed, still not enough to take the sanyo http://www.camcorderinfo.com/ratings.php

From what i see its perfect if used with a tripod/stedy ( if we look at the price )

Thank you for the links & post


John
www.donjoaoresortgoa.com (www.donjoaoresortgoa.com)

Until i get my hands on a green screen sample i will not buy it :P

Nice resort.