Bd-Rb compatible stand alone players

[cp52]

Can anyone tell me which stand alone players are likely to playback Bd-Rb built backups i'm currently finding playback on my ps3 perfect but i want to get one of these new cheapy blu players thats doing the rounds logik etc i'm looking to spend sub £150 has it will be a 3rd player im not looking for the bells & whistles just bd-r +bd-rb compatibility thanks for reading!

[Wombler]

A simple search would have found this thread (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=144674).


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[cp52]

A simple read of my post & you would see i'm not talking about dvd media but BD-R 25 (25gb) i currently have no idea of the playback situation of recordable media bdr on stand alone players since i only playback on a pc/ps3 i remember in the early days of dvd authoring many dvd players would not playback dvd-r do all blu players playback bd-r backups? Thats what i'm trying to find out before i buy a new player i didnt want to take a stack of backups to test in comet!

[drmih]

Between the thread listed and another one on incompatibility of bd-9 you will find information regarding bd-r or br-rw, but Sonys are certainly fine. It is my undertanding that any player which can handle bd-9 full menu will support bd-25 as it's closer to the 'standard' blu-ray spec.

[Wombler]

A simple read of my post & you would see i'm not talking about dvd media but BD-R 25 (25gb) i currently have no idea of the playback situation of recordable media bdr on stand alone players since i only playback on a pc/ps3 i remember in the early days of dvd authoring many dvd players would not playback dvd-r do all blu players playback bd-r backups? Thats what i'm trying to find out before i buy a new player i didnt want to take a stack of backups to test in comet!

Sorry I should have made that clearer.

I'm not aware of any BD-R 25 compatibility list at present (that I've come across) so you'll probably need to deduce the information you're after from threads such as the one previously highlighted.

Either that or check out potential buys on an individual basis.

Normally this would be fairly laborious but £150 is at the very bottom end of the market so I'd imagine your choices will be fairly limited anyway.


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[GaPony]

I just picked up a Sony BDP-S550 this afternoon and it seems to play pretty much everything I've thrown at it... Original movies range from 28gb to 44gb. I installed the latest firmware (revision x.15) when initially setting up the unit.

Full Movie on BD-25 - Looks exactly like original
Full Movie on BD-9 - Looks "almost" as good as original... you have to look for differences.
Full Movie on BD-5 - PQ isn't great IMO

Movie Only (AVCHD) on B-9 - Looks very close to original
Movie Only (AVCHD) on BD-5 - Better than DVD, not as good as original Blu-Ray

I don't really see the point of putting a full movie onto a BD-5... A DVD actually looks better IMO.

Movie Only onto a BD-25 also seems like a bit of a waste.

I wish my Samsung BD-P2500 and PS3 worked this well...

I hope this is useful to someone.

[jdobbs]

I don't really see the point of putting a full movie onto a BD-5... A DVD actually looks better IMO. I certainly can't agree with that one. While you can see the difference between a commercial BD and a BD-5 -- it looks much, much better than DVD to me. In fact, I have a hard time watching DVD now... it just seems "fuzzy" and lacking in detail in comparison to BD-5...

[Furiousflea]

I certainly can't agree with that one. While you can see the difference between a commercial BD and a BD-5 -- it looks much, much better than DVD to me. In fact, I have a hard time watching DVD now... it just seems "fuzzy" and lacking in detail in comparison to BD-5...

I think he's referring to a full movie - including extras\menu on a BD5. In which case he is right, but this is expected as there is going to be only a couple of GB available for 1080p video which just isn't going to work.

This would definately look worse than a DVD due to extreme artifacting except on animation and even it's pushing it.

[GaPony]

I think he's referring to a full movie - including extras\menu on a BD5. In which case he is right, but this is expected as there is going to be only a couple of GB available for 1080p video which just isn't going to work.

This would definately look worse than a DVD due to extreme artifacting except on animation and even it's pushing it.

That is correct. I was referring only to a full copy (menus, extras, previews, etc.) to a BD5. Movie Only copies to BD5 look pretty good.

[jdobbs]

Yeah, I think you're really pushing it on most BDs. If there is 3 hours of total video or less it looks ok -- but often you'll find 4+ hours on a BD.

I think for the most part BD-5 is really meant more for movie-only.

On the other hand, when I add the resizing options (1280x720 and 720x480) that may result in a different conclusion. The testing I've done at 1280x720 looks really good on a BD-5 so far. Subtitles might be an issue, though.

[Sagittaire]

I certainly can't agree with that one. While you can see the difference between a commercial BD and a BD-5 -- it looks much, much better than DVD to me. In fact, I have a hard time watching DVD now... it just seems "fuzzy" and lacking in detail in comparison to BD-5...

Well the x264 profil and avisynth profil are the cause of that. I will try to make particular BD25, BD9 and BD5 profil for BD-RB.

Anyway BD50@BD5 is really hard reencoding if you want 1080p but not impossible with 120 min movie. Anyway 1440x1080 or 1280x720 reencoding seem really better choice for BD5

[Sharc]

Well the x264 profil and avisynth profil are the cause of that. I will try to make particular BD25, BD9 and BD5 profil for BD-RB.

Anyway BD50@BD5 is really hard reencoding if you want 1080p but not impossible with 120 min movie. Anyway 1440x1080 or 1280x720 reencoding seem really better choice for BD5
Taking advantage of anamorphic encoding@1440x1080? ;)

@jdobbs:
I look forward to the resizing option - even without subtitles.
A 2 hours movie @ 1280x720 including 2 audio 640kbps ac3 tracks on a 4.7GB medium results in a rate factor of about 20, or about 23@1440x1080 which for me is still very good quality on a cheap 4.7GB medium.

[nwg]

Stick with either TDK or Verbatim BD media as well. I cannot get the LG disc to work on any BD player without a lot of stuttering. This is a dye problem rather than a DVD-BD problem as simple ISO copies are the same.