MakeMKV - Blu-ray/DVD/Hd-dvd decryptor and remuxer

[Mike Chen]

I would like to announce yet another tool for Blu-ray decryption. MakeMKV http://www.makemkv.com is a program that converts Blu-ray and DVD discs into MKV files directly, preserving original encoding for all tracks. I previously announced the program in "containers" forum at http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=143361 but at that time it was limited only to MKB v4 and below so it was essentially useless for Blu-ray. The current version has latest AACS keys so it can open all Blu-ray discs (except BD+). The program is currently freeware but some functionality will become trialware in future while some wil stay free forever. Enjoy.

[KenD00]

latest AACS keys so it can open all Blu-ray discs (except BD+)

The latest keys we know of are for MKBv8 while Blu-Ray discs with MKBv9 already exists. So either you know more keys than we or less discs ;).

:rolleyes:

[setarip_old]

@KenD00

Hi!

By all means, if you haven't already done so, read "Mike Chen's" other thread, to get a better sense of some of Mike's well-intentioned statements ;>} This program appears to have great potential and may provide true competition for the (presently) only commercial software...

[loo3aem3ON]

I would like to announce yet another tool for Blu-ray decryption.
Are you planning to add BD+ support in the near future?

it can open all Blu-ray discs
You should replace "open" with "decrypt" in your description unless you really mean taking apart the different layers of the physical disc.

[setarip_old]

I just used the program to successfully backup an older (2006) BluRay release that has the main movie split between two non-consecutive "titles" (That I subsequently joined perfectly, using "MKVMerge").

As other members who have read the original thread and/or used MakeMKV thusfar are aware, MakeMKV creates a separate .MKV file for each "title", making no effort to join titles that comprise one true TITLE.

Although this presents no problem regarding standard DVDs (For which the vast majority of movies are contained in but one "title"), it seems to me that, in order to be a meaningful ripping/converting progam regarding BluRay discs, MakeMKV would have to include the ability to interpret playlists or whatever the controlling files are in determining the proper sequential playback of "titles" that comprise the movie.

Additionally, I've got to believe that it would be an almost trivial task to, prior to creating the .MKVs, provide the ability to save the BluRay disc, in its entirety, to hard disk...

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

Is there some "secret" to getting MakeMKV to successfully use a ripped hard drive BluRay "package"?

Thusfar (Trying al versions including v.1.02_B684), regarding several different BluRay (and HD) titles, the end result has always been, "Unable to open disc"...

[KenD00]

@setarip_old
I know the other thread very well, i was just curious about the announced decrypting abilities, because so far AnyDVD HD was the only program that can do MKBv9.

Anyway, i have tried it with my X-Files 2 disc (which is MKBv9) and it was decrypted (except the BD+ damages of course), so this program seems to be the second one that knows a new processing key and maybe certificate. The Linux community is in desparate need of a new certificate and a new PK definately wouldn't hurt too ;).

@Mike Chen
Have you found the new key / certificate on the web or have you worked them out yourself?

:rolleyes:

[setarip_old]

@KenD00I know the other thread very well, i was just curious about the announced decrypting abilitiesI was trying to obtusely advise that "Mike Chen" seems to occasionally make overzealous statements about the program's capabilities...

[Mike Chen]

@Mike Chen

Is there some "secret" to getting MakeMKV to successfully use a ripped hard drive BluRay "package"?

Thusfar (Trying al versions including v.1.02_B684), regarding several different BluRay (and HD) titles, the end result has always been, "Unable to open disc"...
No secrets actually, it should just open either files on hard drive or iso image. What you've been trying to do - open already decryped files or iso, or your "package" is encrypted? If you could please enable "log debug messages" in settings menu, restart the program,try to open ripped files and post the log here or via PM - it would really help us to understand the problem. And yes, if you're trying to open encrypted files you'll need to have either VID or VUK.

[Mike Chen]

@Mike Chen
Have you found the new key / certificate on the web or have you worked them out yourself?

:rolleyes:
We have our own :) . Version 1.2 contains aacs keys that can unlock MKB v10 and will probably stay valid until v11. It contains fairly recent host certificate and "libriveio" library, that is planning to be released under LGPL, that can read VID from drives with patched firmware directly.

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

Here are four examples of failed attempts to open decrypted BluRay filesets residing on a hard drive:

Swordfish - Decrypted files on harddrive

Selected "MovieObect.bdmv":
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:121265039
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:29394068
Failed to open disc

Selected "index.bdmv":
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:121265039
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:29394068
Failed to open disc

Ladder 49 - Decrypted files on harddrive

Selected "MovieObect.bdmv":
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:121265039
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:29394068
Failed to open disc

Selected "index.bdmv":
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:121265039
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:29394068
Failed to open disc

Unless my vision is even worse than I think, I believe all four attempts yielded identical error logs.

[loric]

Is a Linux version planned? Even without the GUI?

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

I must say, I'm most impressed with this latest version!

It successfully ripped and converted to .MKV the quite recently released "Star Wars - The Clone Wars" Blue Ray version (VC-1 video) directly from the BluRay disc.

This latest version also appears to have the capability of converting an already decrypted .ISO version of a BluRay disc to .MKV, but strangely, only if the .ISO is NOT mounted (I'll recheck this again at a later time). Also, as noted earlier, it still doesn't seem to be capable of dealing with already decrypted filesets (not .ISO image files) stored on a hard drive.

Kudos to you and your team on what, with this release of v.1.02_b864, I now see to be a very exciting program in the making. Keep up the excellent progress ;>}

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

Ironically, after congratulating you and recommending MakeMKV to a member ("MPAA") in response to a posting in the "Newbies" sub-forum here, it was extremely disappointing to hear back from that member that, contrary to your statement (both at the top of this thread and on your homepage) that:Preserves all video and audio tracks MakeMKV generates the following error notification:Stream #1 of type 'DTS-HD audio' was skipped, since it is not supported in BETA version Considering the large number of BluRay discs out there with DTS-HD encoding (and, possibly, no additional .AC3 in the same language), this limitation may prove to be prohibitive to anyone desiring to extacct the best possible audio.

Perhaps, rather than having members (including myself) "discover" the program's unstated limtiations/deficiencies, you would be good enough to state them in a post to this thread. We all understand that this is a work in progress, so don't be bashful ;>}

[Mike Chen]

@Mike Chen
Selected "MovieObect.bdmv":
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 3 at >f0]:TW#V uho<iN'4rT{qyWO:121261727
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:121265039
FAILURE: Code 0 at IXUcGJ0 YJtbB3I8:29394068
Failed to open disc
[/B]

Thank you, that made it clear. There is an error when opening decrypted files from harddrive, there is no workaround. New version should be available soon.

[Mike Chen]

@Mike Chen

Considering the large number of BluRay discs out there with DTS-HD encoding (and, possibly, no additional .AC3 in the same language), this limitation may prove to be prohibitive to anyone desiring to extacct the best possible audio.

Perhaps, rather than having members (including myself) "discover" the program's unstated limtiations/deficiencies, you would be good enough to state them in a post to this thread. We all understand that this is a work in progress, so don't be bashful ;>}
There are two high-def DTS formats - "DTS HD" and "DTS HD MA". Only first is not supported and only because we haven't seen any disc that uses it. Majority of the discs use master audio.

For any HD audio format "supported" means that core audio is extracted and placed to MKV. So for any HD audio MKV will contain regular 5.1 audio, either AC3 or DTS. Currently there is no way to put HD audio into MKV and no player will play it.

Currently unsupported but easy to do once we have a sample disc:
DTS HD (DTS HD master audio is supported)
dolby digital plus (Dolby truehd is supported)

not supported:
blu-ray text subtitles

not implemented yet:
no chapters are extracted from blu-ray
on blu-ray each AV clip is extracted as separate title

BTW, on regular DVDs one title contains almost always 2 or more AV clips because of layer break. MakeMKV joins them automatically.

[setarip_old]

@MIke Chen There is an error when opening decrypted files from harddrive, there is no workaround.Convert to (unmounted) .ISO image file.


There are two high-def DTS formats - "DTS HD" and "DTS HD MA". Only first is not supported and only because we haven't seen any disc that uses it.Per member "MPAA", the "Reservoir Dogs 15th anniversary edition" contains just such an audiostream.


BTW - Does MakeMKV presently process LPCM audiostreams?

[Mike Chen]

- Does MakeMKV presently process LPCM audiostreams?

Oh, sorry forgot to mention LPCM in my previous post: currently it's unsupported but will be in future.

[Mike Chen]

BTW new build is available with fixed error during opening of already decrypted Blu-ray and HD-DVD files on harddrive

[setarip_old]

BTW new build is available with fixed error during opening of already decrypted Blu-ray and HD-DVD files on harddriveGood to see the excellent response time.

Does this fix include the abiltiy to deal with, as previously discussed, HD-DVDs using VC-1?

[TiVoMad]

For any HD audio format "supported" means that core audio is extracted and placed to MKV. So for any HD audio MKV will contain regular 5.1 audio, either AC3 or DTS. Currently there is no way to put HD audio into MKV and no player will play it.



Hi Mike,
What a lot of us have been doing using the 'manual' method is to convert the hi-def audio formats to FLAC. A PC with something like MadFlac installed will happily play back the full bandwidth audio and it can be sent via HDMI as 7.1 PCM. It would be very cool if you added that 'feature' at a later date.

Also, I think the MKV container's latest spec. does allow the HD Audio formats although as you say, nothing will play them (yet). FFDSHOW has some beta support for the new audio but I don't think it works too well at the moment.

Anyway, great program. Well Done.

TiVo.

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

I just used MakeMKV to rip the "Ratatouille" BluRay disc. It brought to firsthand light for me, a suggestion I made in an earlier post to this thread, to wit:

It seems to me that, in order to be a meaningful ripping/converting progam regarding BluRay discs, MakeMKV would have to include the ability to interpret playlists or whatever the controlling files are in determining the proper sequential playback of "titles" that comprise the movie.

From what I've been able to cull out from the more than 20 "Titles" ripped by MakeMKV, including SOME (but not all) apparently joined "Titles" that are parts of the "movie only", there are anywhere from 8 to 15 non-sequential "Titles" that are parts of the actual movie.

Also, rather than MakeMKV generating simple sequential "Title" numbers based on "Titles" checkmarked by the user, I think it may be more meaningful to use clip numbers or playlist numbers instead...

(Until such time as such a feature is added to MakeMKV, is there anyone who knows how I can determine (Other than visually) the correct sequence of the ripped "Titles" and their individual filesizes that comprise the "Ratatouille BluRay disc?)

**Additional request** - It would be extremely beneficial if MakeMKV would show the "Title" numbers next to each "Title" in the second generated window.

[jj666]

Hello setarip_old, if you use EAC3TO and point it at the root directory of your bluray disk via the command line, it will show you all the playlists with the respect .M2TS numbers it will join.

Cheers,

-jj-

[setarip_old]

@jj666

Hi!

Thanks for the info ;>}

[Mike Chen]

Does this fix include the abiltiy to deal with, as previously discussed, HD-DVDs using VC-1?

Not yet...

I just used MakeMKV to rip the "Ratatouille" BluRay disc...


Thank you Setarip,we know the problem, it's program limitation that it doesn't work with playlists by now, but we are working on that issue. So please wait for the new build.

[Mike Chen]

Hi Mike,
What a lot of us have been doing using the 'manual' method is to convert the hi-def audio formats to FLAC. A PC with something like MadFlac installed will happily play back the full bandwidth audio and it can be sent via HDMI as 7.1 PCM. It would be very cool if you added that 'feature' at a later date.

Also, I think the MKV container's latest spec. does allow the HD Audio formats although as you say, nothing will play them (yet). FFDSHOW has some beta support for the new audio but I don't think it works too well at the moment.

Anyway, great program. Well Done.

TiVo.

TiVo,

Many thanks for the information! That's really great, we will try to add this in the future!
Could you by any chance send me some tutorial of how you do that?

[setarip_old]

@Mike ChenThank you Setarip,we know the problem, it's program limitation that it doesn't work with playlists by now, but we are working on that issue. So please wait for the new build.Thanks for the feedback ;>}

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

Regarding updated copy protection on standard DVDs - "MakeMKV" is not capable of ripping the movie title(s) of the just released R1 version of "W" (A Lionsgate release)...

[kkloster21]

@setarip_old

were you able to get the sequence of .m2ts files for Ratatouille from the info jj666 gave you? if not, I have the sequence.

[setarip_old]

@kkloster21

Hi!were you able to get the sequence of .m2ts files for Ratatouille from the info jj666 gave you? if not, I have the sequence.Yes, I was, thank you for asking and offering - starting with 27 and ending with 65 ;>}

[Mike Chen]

Guys, I would like to give an update. The version 1.3 is now available. It adds support for latest DVD protections (found on various LionsGate discs), support for Blu-ray playlists and chapters and incorporates some other suggestions from this thread. Current AACS keys still work on MKB v12. Please give it a try.

[Kurtnoise]

Hi,

I'm just testing the last beta. Nice job. Now, most of my BD discs are recognized.

However, I've a question concerning HD subtitles. Which player is able to play back those streams with S_HDMV/PGS as CodecID ? It seems that the haali splitter is able to split it but which renderer ? and this specs has been validated by the Matroska Team yet ?

[kkloster21]

@Mike Chen:

Are the AACS keys that you have processing keys? If they are, would you consider sharing them with KenD00 so he can incorporate them into his free and open-source DumpHD software? Linux users like me (and loric i think) can't use your software and i am personally only interested in software that can play blu-ray movies straight from the disc (without ripping them).

we'd really appreciate it! The open-source software community thrives on the generosity, hard work, and cooperation of people like you, KenD00 and Oopho2ei (and countless others who have contributed here).

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

Hi!

This update sounds impressive ;>}

Does this v.1.3 update now include the ability to deal with, as twice previously discussed, HD-DVDs using VC-1?

[DrinkLyeAndDie]

Are you saying that this is a "BD+" disc?

X-Files & X-Files 2 == FOX
FOX == BD+

[cwl7454]

@setarip_old

Have been having alot of problems with the Lionsgate productions. On "DisasterMovie", Ripit4Me appears to have correctly processed it evan tho had popup warnings at the end. Playback of file on VLC player started out with pixalation and freezes on opening, it automatically restarted itself and played fine the whole way thru.

AnyDVD to Folder: Seems to have processed ok; total 7.05GB, ran thru DVD Shrink and evan tho I selected Main Movie 0f 2.68 GB while it was processing it appeared to include a lot of interviews after the main movie. Playback of Image was fine, but did include pretty much everything on the DVD.

MakeMKV: After processing dragged largest fileset to decrypting side, while processing showed numerous skipped titles and cells, took 18m 46secs for an output of 13 titles. Playback on VLC player of everything appeared to be fine, but is showing closed caption. Now that I these 13 MKV files how do I get them to an ISO? Am I going to have to buy a converter?

[lchiu7]

I'm a bit new to this backing up BD/HD-DVD's via freeware/shareware tools since up till now my goal was to just backup my HD-DVD collection in case my player died and not worry about BD since you can always get a new player (I am using a PS3).

So I have been using AnyDVD trial and it's pretty easy to use. But the trial has ended and rather than spend 79 euros on the tool I started looking at the other tools like dumphd, dumpvid, aacskeys etc. Tried on a couple of titles and they seemed to work. And what made it harder was the fact my LG drive has had its key revoked so had to use PDVD7 which came with the drive and dumpvid to hammer the drive to get the Volume Key (if that's the right term).

Anyway have come across this tool and it looks interesting. But what's not so clear to me is, it says it won't handle BD+. I am entirely sure what the implication of that is. Does that mean it cannot rip a BD title with BD+? If so can you use the BDVM Debugger in standalone mode?

What happens if it's a title with mkbv9 keys so this tool is the only tool (apart from AnyDVD) that can handle it.

Sorry if the questions are a bit simple but some looking around on this forum didn't turn up any obvious answers

Thanks

[setarip_old]

@lchiu7

Hi!Does that mean it cannot rip a BD title with BD+?That's correct...

[lchiu7]

@lchiu7

Hi!That's correct...

So are you caught between a rock and a hard place then?

If you have a title with BD+ and mkbv9 you're screwed unless you have AnyDVD? The mkbv9 stops DumpHD and bdvm debugger and BD+ stops MakeMKV?

[setarip_old]

@lchiu7

MakeMKV has been improved several times since inception. I wouldn't doubt that dealing with BD+ is one of the items being worked on, although your guess would be as good as mine as to when such an improvement will show up - and whether it will be in the current free beta mode, or when they take the program commercial.

You might want to post your question at the forum at the MakeMKV website.

Or, you could avoid purchasing Fox BluRay discs ;>}

[lchiu7]

Or, you could avoid purchasing Fox BluRay discs ;>} [/Color]

Well I got into this backup thing mainly to backup my HD-DVD collection since players are going to rare as hen's teeth soon and I didn't want to be left stranded with about 50 titles I couldn't play. So the idea was back them up to a server and play with a Popcorn Hour which works fine.

Then seeing how convenient it was to do that, thought I would put some of more frequently played BD titles on the server and hence the encounter with BD+ and possibly mkbv9 which I had no knowledge of before since I had been using AnyDVD. But that trial is over and I can't justify the cost of a two year licence given that most of the HD-DVD titles I have can be backed up with the tools on this forum and there won't be any new encryption coming along:)

The only Fox title I have tried so far (Life Free or Die Hard) is BD+ but I seem to have gotten dumphd with the BDVM debugger, Dumpvid and aacskeys to back this title up. A lot of effort to be sure but the result is satisfying!

[tu]

quick question...

MakeMKV creates "transcode" container that is the same quality in term of video as m2ts rips? What about audio? Is the same quality?

Tu

[setarip_old]

@tu

Hi!

Read the very first post of this thread - and then read the rest of this thread to learn which audio formats are not presently handled (at all) by the program...

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

You've not responded to a suggestion/request that I posted much earlier in this thread, so I'll state again:

I've got to believe that it would be an almost trivial task to, prior to creating the .MKVs, provide the ability/option to save the BluRay disc, in its entirety, to hard disk in conforming BluRay format.

Please advise...

[guru1968]

I tried this amazing program to convert my DVDs to a single file that I can stream via network towards my PS3 - so much easier than putting the DVD into the tray... for that I am a lazy guy and do not need all that extra crap on the DVD!

It's also quite nice if the MPEG2 video is converted to 264, saves a lot of disc-space (x264 video is ~700 MB; plus the audio gives something around 1.5 to 2.5 GB - depending on the audio tracks one leaves inside)...


Only two problems so far:

1.) mkv2vob does not recognise the video format - keeps yelling about an "unsupported video codec: MPEG-2"
--> would be nice if those two "one-click solutions" worked hand-in-hand (much easier for us PS3 owners)

2.) the DVD-chapters within the MakeMkv output are somewhat corrupted (or out-of-spec)!?
-> MkvInfo shows them, but no other program "sees" the chapters (neither MkvExtract nor TsMuxer recognizes those)
how do I get the chapter information (e.g. to be feed into txmuxer)?
what I am doing wrong here?


keep up the work - amazing little prog so far


p.s.
also subtitles don't work -- but this sadly is a common problem on the PS3 (subtitles don't work at all here; on self-made single-file videos I mean)
<EDIT>OK, subtitles would work for small MP4 and divX containers up to 4GB, but beyond 4GB there are no subtitles 'til now</EDIT>

p.p.s.
that's how I do it a.t.m.:
1. MakeMkv (extract DVDs main movie to a single MKV file)
2. tsmuxer (extract the MPEG2 movie from that MKV file)
3. DGIndex (indexing the MPEG2 movie for use with AviSynth)
4. meGUI (convert the AviSynth movie into h264)
5. tsmuxer (combine the h264 movie with the original audio)
6a. tsmuxer (mux to .ts for streaming)
6b. or mkv2vob (if the audio was DTS)

[if MakeMkv would directly support mkv2vob, I could save steps 2 to 5 ...]

that way I am losing subtitle and chapter information (tsmuxer does not recognize chapters/subtitles from MakeMkv files :-( )

any other posible solutions to preserve chapters/subtitles ???

[ggking7]

MakeMKV doesn't seem to work on Linux via wine. I'm going to post at the makemkv.com forum too, but does anyone know if the author is interested in making it work via wine?

[raymondtrudeau]

is it possible to just get the main movie and a menu? if so hoiw do you select the menu? thanks

[setarip_old]

@Mike Chen

My recent efforts with "Make MKV" have included converting several BluRay discs that employ VC-1 videostreams. Although the conversions have gone smoothly, the resultant .MKVs playback in a very "choppy"/stuttering (and at times, slideshow-like) manner.

This problem is very certainly limited to those BluRay discs containing VC-1 videostreams.

Your thoughts, please ;>}

[setarip_old]

@raymondtrudeau

Hi!

MakeMKV does NOT include menu retention capablity...

[Kurtnoise]

My recent efforts with "Make MKV" have included converting several BluRay discs that employ VC-1 videostreams. Although the conversions have gone smoothly, the resultant .MKVs playback in a very "choppy"/stuttering (and at times, slideshow-like) manner.

This problem is very certainly limited to those BluRay discs containing VC-1 videostreams.

Your thoughts, please ;>}
I don't think so...

1/ Retry a vc-1 to mkv mux with eac3to or mmg from mkvtoolnix.
2/ Compare with the one from MakeMKV. If the problem is still there, it's probably due to your decoder filter chain...