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Menedas
19th December 2008, 15:30
I have used DVD Flick to create a Video DVD with subtitles from a srt file, but the subtitles are too wide, not like in the preview. Is there a solution to chage that?
setarip_old
19th December 2008, 18:34
Hi!
Did you extract the video and subtitles from the same original source material?
Menedas
19th December 2008, 19:34
No, I have the Subs from an SRT file. And the DVD Flick use them to create the subs for the Video DVD.
setarip_old
19th December 2008, 19:58
It sounds like you created the .SRT file as widescreen rather than fullscreen - or converted the video in Flick as fullscreen when it should have been widescreen...
What is the original video source material and its title? (This may help in determining the reason for your problem)
Menedas
20th December 2008, 00:52
No, its not a cross post. I don't understand why my other Thread was closed. Read more carefully. In the other link I asked for a solution with IfoEdit, in which I also interested to know if it is possible, and here for a solution in DVD Flick.
The .srt file is just text. Without any position or aspect information, or what do you mean?
Flick does not create the video. I have made it with an other program. Its just a mpeg2 video file which Flick can copy to create the DVD. And the MPEG2 file is correct as I can create a DVD Video with TMPGEnc DVD Author which makes also correct not wide subs from the same srt file. But the subs are not looking well as it seems the programm is not be able to make Anti Aliasing. So the problem of the wide subs seems to be from the flick, or from the program spumux it uses to make subtitles.
In Flick the video is correct detected as Widescreen. When I select 4:3 then the movie does have wrong aspect ratio but the sub is correct.
Video Source:
Format : MPEG Video
Format version : Version 2
Format profile : Main@Main
Format settings, Matrix : Default
Duration : 1h 51mn
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 4 786 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 8 000 Kbps
Width : 704 pixels
Height : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 25.000 fps
Standard : PAL
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.789
setarip_old
20th December 2008, 01:31
Would you be good enough to upload a clip from the Flick-created version - that shows the problem?
I presume you know in DVD Flick how to change the settings for subtitles (Click on "Subtitles", then click on "Edit")- including using the "Auto" setting, which will AUTOMATICALLY make the subtitles fit properly...
blutach
20th December 2008, 02:57
No, its not a cross post. I don't understand why my other Thread was closed. Read more carefully. In the other link I asked for a solution with IfoEdit, in which I also interested to know if it is possible, and here for a solution in DVD Flick.Yes, it is. You could have framed your problem seeking for a solution in either program.
Anyway, IfoEdit can't help you. Try SubtitleCreator or DVDSubEdit. You may need to make a set of subbies for 4:3 and another for 16:9
Regards
Menedas
20th December 2008, 10:12
@setarip_old
Yes, I know where to change the sub settings in DVD Flick. And auto only changes the size of the font not the aspect ratio. Ok, I uploaded a short part of it here:
http://home.arcor.de/menedas/Too_wide_subs.rar
I wonder what you will see in it. If you set the movie to 4:3 than you see how the subs should look like, I also put in sub pictures spumux created within DVDFlick. They also have the right aspect ratio.
@blutach
For me its not the same. As I asked the IfoEdit in the forum part where people are around who knows or search IfoEdit solutions. Same for the part of on click DVD creation programs. But ok, now it know it.
I tried DVDSubEdit. Can't find a aspect ratio option for the subs in it. Next I will try, SubtitleCreator. Thanks for that idea.
blutach
20th December 2008, 15:22
In DVDSE, you can move the subbies around so they fit in the area. Just select 4:3 or 16:9 WS as appropriate.
Regards
Menedas
20th December 2008, 16:11
They fit in the area, thats not the Problem.
What is a good way to get Subs with Subtitle Creator into an authored Video-DVD? Or at least a progam to author a Video-DVD compilent m2v, ac3 and the created subs together. A free open source prog would be fine :)
setarip_old
20th December 2008, 19:44
I have played your sample under three different software players - and see nothing unusual or wrong in the 16:9 display. The entire subtitle displays onscreen (no part of the subtitle is cropped - which is what I thought you were saying is the problem), whether 4:3 or 16x9. of course, as you'll see with ANY DVD, the subtitles are about 25% wider on a 16x9 display than they are on a 4:3 display - staying proportionate with the video display...
If there is yet something else you're trying to describe, please explain.
Menedas
20th December 2008, 20:16
No, cropping wasn't my problem. My problem is that the fonts are too wide. Don't confound it with too long lines. IMO they should always have the same proportions on any display. Else there is something wrong. And its also illogic as mine does have a ratio of 5:4. According to your logic the subs on my screen must be too narrow. And another prove that your opinion is wrong is, that the mentioned DVD Author from TMPGEnc does have the right sub proportions. So it is possible to have correct subs as I understand it.
setarip_old
20th December 2008, 21:18
And another prove that your opinion is wrongI'm not offering an opinion, I'm suggesting that you play a commercial 16:9 DVD using VLC or another software DVD player capable of changing the format, and observe and measure the width of the line of subtitles - and then change the format to 4:3 and play the same portion and observe and measure the width of the line of subtitles...
Menedas
21st December 2008, 02:12
Hm, interesting. But what could be the reason for the player to do such? The only reason comes to my mind if the sub is too long to norrows it. But I can't found a reason for making it wide.
setarip_old
21st December 2008, 03:26
You're welcome ;>}
manono
21st December 2008, 16:18
As blutach mentioned earlier, you want to make 2 sets of subs, one for use on 4:3 displays and the other for use on 16:9 displays. I have never used DVD Flick but evidently it makes one set of subs for both. Many commercial DVDs also use one set for both, but use fonts that look OK when resized for both 4:3 and 16:9 displays. Me, I if I'm working with a 16:9 video, then I create 2 sets of subs using MaestroSBT. These will be SST subs, later used when authoring with Muxman. You could even do the same and replace what you have now with better subs.
Menedas
21st December 2008, 21:30
I currently experimenting with SubtitleCreator in which I found the DVDAuthor function :) Thanks blutach für your recommendation.
Yes, using more subs is a very good idea. I will do that.
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