ATI-AVIVO (with GPU)

[RunningSkittle]

I was going to post some graphs and tables showing the new AVIVO GPU assisted converter thats included in the 8.12 beta... but Once I fired up the program and started to transcode a clip from Pulp Fiction I was disgusted with the results and decided it wasnt worth the effort. Besides there being a total lack of options, the output quality was terrible.

You can choose from the following output formats:
MPEG1,2
MPEG4 (ASP)
Sony Portable Device (Mpeg4 ASP)
iPod (H264)
Windows Media
VCD, SVCD


You cannot change the resolution, and can only specify a bitrate with a limited slider. The ipod profile does not explicitly tell you it is using H264.

Q6600 @ 333*9
HD4850

8m 5s clip from the DVD:

AVIVO iPod profile: (320x192)
encoding took ~30seconds
CPU: ~70% utilization
GPU:

Date , GPU [%] ,
2008-12-08 11:01:34 , 1 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:35 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:36 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:37 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:38 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:39 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:40 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:41 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:42 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:43 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:44 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:45 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:46 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:47 , 23 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:48 , 21 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:49 , 23 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:50 , 19 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:51 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:52 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:53 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:54 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:55 , 20 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:56 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:57 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:58 , 21 ,
2008-12-08 11:01:59 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:01 , 23 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:02 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:03 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:04 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:05 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:06 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:07 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:08 , 24 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:09 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:10 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:11 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:12 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:13 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:14 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:15 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:16 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:17 , 0 ,
2008-12-08 11:02:18 , 0 ,


http://deep.phpwebhosting.com/~mactownkrisp/computer/avivo.jpg
(CPU usuage of AVIVO - after 2 encodes)

X264 with the default iPod profile from megui finished in 1m 4s.

Am I allowed to post a sample of the encode?

[relu84]

Is it any faster than the previous AVIVO Video Converter versions, which did not use the GPU in any way?
From what I saw and read so far, it seems AVIVO VC generates pretty poor quality and is extremely fast on CPU alone... and here I see your GPU was used very little and only occasionaly.

[RunningSkittle]

I didnt try the previous version.. but I would never use this when x264 is available. "pretty poor quality" is a good term to use.
Screens:
http://deep.phpwebhosting.com/~mactownkrisp/computer/Capture-avivo.PNG
(avivo)

http://deep.phpwebhosting.com/~mactownkrisp/computer/Capture-x264.PNG
(x264)

The avivo file also had severe artifacts... like this:
http://deep.phpwebhosting.com/~mactownkrisp/computer/Capture-artifact.PNG

[deekey777]

The quality is really bad.
But the user friendly solution is ATi Tray Tools. Ray Adams has created a user interface for the XCODE.DLL, so you get more options (to find in ATT folder).
http://img2.abload.de/img/unbenanntxynm.jpg

(The overkill is to use GraphEdit. :D)

[toytown]

I was going to post some graphs and tables showing the new AVIVO GPU assisted converter thats included in the 8.12 beta

Neither in the 8.12 or 8.12 betas has the encoder used my GPU, this has been monitored in control center and GPUZ by checking temps/load.

At any point if i loaded up an application that took up cpu resources the encoding time would shoot up.

It should be wrong to call it "GPU Assisted" when it clearly is not.

4870 used

[setarip_old]

@RunningSkittle

Any reason the Avivo version is displayed with audio, while the x264 version is displayed without audio? Any possible impact on comparative video results?

[RunningSkittle]

Im not sure, there is no audio in the source file. AVIVO must pad the file with a blank clip. MPC reports this as the included audio file:
"Audio: AAC 24000Hz stereo 160Kbps [Sound Media Handler (enu)]"

I just updated to the new catalyst drivers, so I will do another comparison.
And i will see if i can get ATI Tray tools to work... it doesnt seem to want to with vista x64

[Kurtnoise]

did you try the H264 multislices ?

[RunningSkittle]

No, those advanced options are not enabled in the included ATI converter.

If someone can help me get a graphedit work flow down, i can try any options you request.

EDIT: So I have a working graph, although it doesnt seem to use the GPU at all now. Also It seems the blocking issues I was seeing earlier were due to the ATI decoder -> ATI encoder. I am now using ffdshow instead.

Maybe the GPU assisted encoder doesnt show up under directshow filters?

[RunningSkittle]

Here is my graph, the "ATI MPEG video encoder" is the only ati encoder i see available. GPU usuage is 0% throughout the encode while using this encoder. Also note the copyright 2005.
http://deep.phpwebhosting.com/~mactownkrisp/computer/graphstudio.PNG

[edit: removed image tags..]

[deekey777]

With cat. 9.5 AMD have updated their AVIVO converter, so there are new options (eg 1080p H.264).

And here is a new GUI by Ray Adams: http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=296314

If you don't know, how it works: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BIdBOQjAM4c

My problem: I can't register atimpenc and atixcode.

[Kurtnoise]

Actually, there is something wrong w/ this GUI coz H.264 HD 720p & H.264 1080p from the dropdown list produce...MPEG-2 streams. :rolleyes: You have to select directly H.264 codec to have AVC streams...embedded in AVI container. :mad:

[St Devious]

OP, How did you get that info box in the image ?

[Hobojobo]

The people from ATI/AMD does not seem to work a lot on the their Avivo encoder, do they? :cool: