Nero Recode 4 -> weird MP4 playback problem

[eSkRo]

Hi guys!
Thanx for reading!

i'm running Nero Recode 4
and i encountered a weird MP4 playback problem...

In Nero Recode 4
I chose to encode only the "main movie to nero digital"
and left all options to default (video, audio, bla bla bla)

when the MP4 was completed,
i tried to play it...
But i kept seeing those weird bars appearing
everytime single time a puppet moves...

http://i34.tinypic.com/33dvaqs.jpg

Any idea why?
cuz even in Nero Recode 2 and 3
leaving all the default options,
theres no such problem!

-thanx-

[CruNcher]

2 possible things could have gone wrong
1. it didn't detect successfully that the stream is interlaced (happens very very often with a lot of Consumer Software Transcoder)
2. it didn't De-Interlaced properly

i doubt they have such a bad De-Interlacer that 2. is the case here, though with Syskins C&P qualities who knows ;)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

2 possible things either It didn't detect successfully that the stream is interlaced or it didn't De-Interlaced properly

Or it was never instructed to deinterlace interlaced material :p

(Don't know what the default settings are, but there should be an option to either encode interlaced video as interlaced or to deinterlace it)

[eSkRo]

ok then...
instead of leaving the default options to AUTOMATIC
i'll try the process all over again using the De-Interlace option,,,

But NERO Recode Recommands to leave the options to AUTOMATIC...
cuz its supposed to do all the thinking and configuring for you automatically...

but anyways
I'll post back my results when it's done!

But it still bugs me alot
cuz even in Nero Recode 2 and 3
leaving all the default options,
there were no such problems!

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Well, maybe Nero Recode "thinks" that interlaced video should be kept interlaced by default, so you can deinterlace or bob at playback time.

This behavior may have been changed between Nero Recode 4 and the previous versions. So if you want to deinterlace, you should explicitly enable that option...

[CruNcher]

Yep which makes perfect sense for most formats and also in times of perfect GPU support :)

[eSkRo]

well NERO RECODE 4 detects the movie as a "non-interlaced" movie...
so they said "de-interlacing" is not obligated...

http://i37.tinypic.com/2q9dz87.jpg

[Dark Shikari]

well NERO RECODE 4 detects the movie as a "non-interlaced" movie...
so they said "de-interlacing" is not obligated...So? They're obviously wrong :p

[gswudi]

http://www.taobaotupian.com/upload/0812/04/12464216.jpg

[eSkRo]

wich version of RECODE are you using?

and should i use "Lanczos"
as my Default Resizing Method?

[gswudi]

wich version of RECODE are you using?

and should i use "Lanczos"
as my Default Resizing Method?

nero recode 4
Lanczos is better than others.I think.

[gswudi]

P.S.
you should chose Prefer motion adaptive deinterlacing method every time when you use nero recode,it can't save this option.

[CruNcher]

yep that i think is Syskins baby :)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

nero recode 4
Lanczos is better than others.I think.

Lanczos is sharper than Bi-linear or Bi-cubic, it preserves more detail.

But this doesn't necessarily look better after compression, because sharper video tends to require more bits ;)

[eSkRo]

so Lanczos yes or no?

[audyovydeo]

What's if it's one of those rare but not so rare cases of an interlaced source that was encoded as progressive ? It's happened to me before. You get the interlacing artifacts, but not the chance to remove them.

What is your source exactly ?

cheers
audyovydeo

[eSkRo]

Here's my results...

http://i36.tinypic.com/era2za.jpg

from now on, i'll always de-interlace...
i won't let nero judge if its necessary or not...
since recode 4 fails to do so,,,
nice quality isn't it
:)

[bart9]

from now on, i'll always de-interlace...
i won't let nero judge if its necessary or not...
:)


You don't want to deinterlace progressive material - or you'll start seeing jagged lines and other artifacts.

From personal experience, Recode is not good at detecting lighly interlaced material as is more common today. In the end, I always opened everything in VirtualDub first to check if it was interlaced or not.

Then I discovered x264 and did some comparisons. I haven't used Recode since...

[eSkRo]

You don't want to deinterlace progressive material - or you'll start seeing jagged lines and other artifacts.

From personal experience, Recode is not good at detecting lighly interlaced material as is more common today. In the end, I always opened everything in VirtualDub first to check if it was interlaced or not.

Then I discovered x264 and did some comparisons. I haven't used Recode since...

xplain more about Virutaldub and X264 plz!
:thanks:

[CruNcher]

The Motion Adaptive De-Interlacer should be quiet good and artifact free (Software wise) i would say it's pretty comparable with Smart De-Interlacer (Virtualdub Plugin) maybe even better, though there is always the danger that it detects something that looks like interlaced lines (but what aren't ones actually) or it maybe even tries to De-Interlaces Special effects that should look like Interlaced lines :D :)
The Danger that it accidentally De-Interlaces Progressive frames is nearly 0% ;)

Tough Syskin could say more about it (it's quality) and way it works he actually worked on it as far as i know :)

[Bradskey]

I upgraded to Nero 9/Recode 4 this month and noticed this right away. Where interlace detection had been working pretty well in Recode 3, the same source material was not being detected as interlaced in Recode 4. This is a maddening perennial thing with Nero, and affects other tools besides Recode: every release fixes or tweaks one thing (maybe) while simultaneously managing to screw up something else THAT WAS WORKING JUST FINE! Its a decent-to-good encoder with good results, but the GUI glitches and these annoying inconsistencies drive me crazy. I've just about given up on it, and with the release of Handbrake 0.9.3 I think I can finally tell Recode where to get off.