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Shaggy
19th January 2002, 23:59
I was just curious how long it took people to encode a movie using G-Knots

Tell how long on average and whats your computer speed

It takes me 3-4 hrs and I have a Thunderbird 1.2

cofferscuffs
20th January 2002, 00:33
Well for me it takes 8 hours on an Athlon 850@933 but if you add extra filters like smoothing or do fast deinterlace instead of smart, then the encoding time veries a lot. Maybe you should change the wording to how long does it take you... without adding other filters to it. Also please state how you deinterlace" or something along those lines.

manono
20th January 2002, 00:41
Lame poll-too many variables.

MoonWalker
20th January 2002, 00:44
This poll isn't accurate because the results depend's on the length of the movie,the filter e.t.c...

Shaggy
20th January 2002, 03:04
Originally posted by manono
Lame poll-too many variables.

WTF, just answer the question, thats all i ask, i really could care less what you think about my poll. let me restate the question for you so you can better understand it.

Since we are in the Gordian Knot seection, im only refering to Gordian Knots encodings. I stated one cd, thats 700 megs, 2 passed. Now i was just curious how long it takes you to do that on average. If you use Gordian Knots you will notcie that it does tell you exactly how long it take each time you use it HR, MIN, even seconds.


Now the reason for this poll is cause it only takes me 3-4 hrs each and every time, and it just seems too short, it took 9-10 hours using nandub. I was curious how long it took other people to encode a movie using gordian knots

Shaggy
20th January 2002, 03:06
Originally posted by cofferscuffs
Well for me it takes 8 hours on an Athlon 850@933 but if you add extra filters like smoothing or do fast deinterlace instead of smart, then the encoding time veries a lot. Maybe you should change the wording to how long does it take you... without adding other filters to it. Also please state how you deinterlace" or something along those lines.

When you say deinterlace, im unsure of what you are talkign about sound familair but isn't been a while since i used nandub. I found gordain knots very easy with nice results, nothing like a vite or dominion rip but still nice. Please explain, what are u using??

Prizm
20th January 2002, 06:23
GKnot, DivX4 encoding:

13-14 hours on a Celeron 366MHz, WinXP, sharp bi-cubic.

6-7 hours on a Celeron 900MHz, WinXP, sharp bi-cubic.

Prizm

smokeslikeapoet
20th January 2002, 07:14
Not a lame poll really. Of course there are many variables, but if it took us all 10 hours or more to encode one movie, would we still be doing it. I think I would be looking for another option. Like downloading the movie from somewhere. For those of you doing 10 hour encodes on your only computer that takes real dedicaton.

manono
20th January 2002, 09:21
It is lame. I've spent 9 hours on the second pass of a 25 minute anime episode, and I've spent 30 minutes on the second pass of an anime episode. Since encoding is almost entirely CPU limited, you'd gain more useful information (and not very valuable at that) by just asking "What CPU do you use"?

cofferscuffs said it more politely, but he said the same thing.

And Shaggy-I fully understood the question. That's why I responded as I did. You've only proven that you don't understand what you're asking when you say something like this:


When you say deinterlace, im unsure of what you are talkign about

manono
20th January 2002, 10:17
By the way. If the reason for the poll was to find the answer for this:

it only takes me 3-4 hrs each and every time, and it just seems too short, it took 9-10 hours using nandub

Then if 1000 people answered the poll, you still would be no closer to the answer (and I won't even go into the fact that Nandub is doing the encoding in either case). If instead of a cute poll, you had just asked a question, something like:


Since I started using GKnot my encoding times have gone way down. Does anyone know why?

Then I, or any one of a hundred people, might have answered something to the effect of:

Because before you were frameserving using a VFAPI and Full Processing, and now you are frameserving with an .avs and Fast Recompress.

Acaila
20th January 2002, 11:21
Not a lame poll really. Of course there are many variables, but if it took us all 10 hours or more to encode one
movie, would we still be doing it. I think I would be looking for another option. Like downloading the movie from
somewhere. For those of you doing 10 hour encodes on your only computer that takes real dedicaton.

My comp needs about 9 hours for every pass (1.5-hour movie). That's 18 hours for a 2-pass encode. Of course I use filters that slow down, but still...

I'm dedicated :D


My system:
P3 500Mhz @ 575Mhz
192 SDRAM
Voodoo5 5500 64MB Videocard
Asus P2B-VM MoBo

Doom9
20th January 2002, 13:34
I think the poll should set a movie length and some settings (filters, resolution). encoding a 3h movie takes twice as long as a 1h30 movie.

rui
20th January 2002, 15:40
Well, a ~2h movie takes about 3.15h~3h.30 to encode. This with Sharp bicubic and divx4. My system is AMD XP 1600+ OC to 1800+

jggimi
20th January 2002, 18:27
Well, with a 950 Athlon, 200Mhz FSB, with 1/4GB of standard PC133 memory, WME O/S...

it takes about 6 hours for a typical telecined DVD, using sharp Bicubic resize filtering.

Other framerates, other filtering, produce different results.

Shaggy
20th January 2002, 19:43
Originally posted by manono
It is lame. I've spent 9 hours on the second pass of a 25 minute anime episode, and I've spent 30 minutes on the second pass of an anime episode. Since encoding is almost entirely CPU limited, you'd gain more useful information (and not very valuable at that) by just asking "What CPU do you use"?

cofferscuffs said it more politely, but he said the same thing.

And Shaggy-I fully understood the question. That's why I responded as I did. You've only proven that you don't understand what you're asking when you say something like this:


When you say deinterlace, im unsure of what you are talkign about

Ok i think its odvious that i don't know what im talking about but if you would read what i am saying you might be able to better understand it. Let me break this down for you.

I encode a movie first and second pass in 3-4 hrs, and compaired to nandub which took 9-10 hrs. Now I personally found this a bit wierd considering that gordian knots uses nandub. you may know the inter workings of gordain knots therefore its not wierd to you. I may not be educated on encoding movies but im interested in learning more about it. Now i came to the forum to ask some questions and get some answers, now you being a senior member I would think you might understand this but its been clear to me that you are just trying to shoot down my first post on this board. Grow up and be like the other members and answer the question to the best of your ablity

Shaggy
20th January 2002, 19:44
Originally posted by Doom9
I think the poll should set a movie length and some settings (filters, resolution). encoding a 3h movie takes twice as long as a 1h30 movie.

on average for your average movie. ive encoded 8 movies all various lengths and they all take from 3-4 hrs

Shaggy
20th January 2002, 19:47
Originally posted by manono
By the way. If the reason for the poll was to find the answer for this:

it only takes me 3-4 hrs each and every time, and it just seems too short, it took 9-10 hours using nandub

Then if 1000 people answered the poll, you still would be no closer to the answer (and I won't even go into the fact that Nandub is doing the encoding in either case). If instead of a cute poll, you had just asked a question, something like:


Since I started using GKnot my encoding times have gone way down. Does anyone know why?

Then I, or any one of a hundred people, might have answered something to the effect of:

Because before you were frameserving using a VFAPI and Full Processing, and now you are frameserving with an .avs and Fast Recompress.

See theres an answer to help me out, thanks thats what i was looking for. Now I personally like polls so its kinda fun, excuse me for trying to have some fun

adept1
21st January 2002, 02:29
Gordian Knot .23b, using DivX 4.12 - Around 700MB target size, sharp bicubic.

About 40 minutes to rip the vobs in SmartRipper.
Less than 10 minutes in DVD2AVI preparing the vobs.
About 5 minutes preparing subs if I'm doing subtitles.
About 10 minutes for Azid.
About 15 minutes in LAME.
About 1.5 hours for each of the 2 encoding passes.
About 5 minutes or less to mux audio.

So for me the entire process takes about 4.5 hours.

System Specs:

Dual PIII 866's running at 975, ATA/100 RAID 0, 1GB RAM, Win2K Server

manono
21st January 2002, 06:41
I apologize for my remarks. I was just reading DDoggs "Gentle Reminders About Manners" thread and started feeling guilty (damn conscience). I'm sorry for coming down so hard on you (I'd still reword the poll, though:)).

Shaggy
21st January 2002, 06:59
Originally posted by manono
I apologize for my remarks. I was just reading DDoggs "Gentle Reminders About Manners" thread and started feeling guilty (damn conscience). I'm sorry for coming down so hard on you (I'd still reword the poll, though:)).


thanks dude and thanks for info about why this is faster then nandub

seoulsteve
21st January 2002, 12:31
i hate this pole for one reason: i'm extremely jealous of those who are encoding movies in four hours. four hours! i can't even do one pass in four hours!!

i'm running a celeron 850mhz and a 120min movie takes about 8 hours to encode from rip to finish (no filters). plus there's all the comp-check time... all in all it's not bad, but i would like it to be faster!!

Shaggy
21st January 2002, 19:06
lol sorry dude, thats why you just need a fast internet connection and find some place to download them

Muzzy
21st January 2002, 19:10
I average 4 hours during the encoding portion when encoding 2 hour movies. I'm kinda new to Gordian Knot so I don't know what settings to include with my estimate. I usually do 2CD rips with the horizontal size around 640 and use the Neutral filter. Add the 30-40 minutes for smartripper and 5 minutes of setup and I would say it takes me about 5 hours to do a movie.

I'm glad to see my Dual 1ghz is not far behind some of the newer athlon and P4 systems. I'm not a gamer so I don't need the raw power of an Athlon XP or P4. What I do like is that I can start a rip and do other things without worrying about pauses or crashes. I once watched another Divx while ripping and burning a CD, was kinda cool to do. IDE raid helps in that respect too I am sure.

I'm just curious, what is the system like while encoding for those of you with kick butt Athlons and P4's? Does the system slow down a lot?

rui
22nd January 2002, 22:37
"I'm not a gamer so I don't need the raw power of an Athlon XP or P4"

Well, i upgraded from P3 600 Oc to 800, to AMD XP 1600+ Oc to 1800+. But i made this upgrade because i needed the extra power to make conversions in less hours, not because i needed the extra power to gaming. My P3 was more than enough to my gaming needs. I believe that when gaming is the question one must invest more in graphics power than cpu power.

"I'm just curious, what is the system like while encoding for those of you with kick butt Athlons and P4's? Does the system slow down a lot?"

Well, i am tipping this and crusing the net, while enconding a movie. But my system gets used to 100% when just encondig a movie, so if i do other things besides that, the movie will take a bit more to finish. But no crashes :)
The benefit of having the XP is that when just encondig i get about 27~30 fps, and when doing more stuff besides the encoding i get 24~27 ;)

DigDub
23rd January 2002, 02:25
I'm on Athlon 1.4Ghz and 512DDR. Running Win98SE.

Just did my first encode using Gknot. Filters used are Donald Graft's Decomb, Telecide and Decimate. Using Neutral Bicucbic. Total time take around 6.5 hrs. Framerate stays at around 17-20fps.

I was using Nandub previously with the same filters, and framerate was around 12fps.

I read somewhere that GKnot uses mpeg2dec.dll, that's why its faster than regular Nandub? Correctme if I'm wrong.

praying mantis
23rd January 2002, 03:04
i tried gknot for the first time yesterday so dunno if my settings were ultimately the best but it gave me a decent movie.
anyways i have a p3 600, 256 ram, geforce 256 ddr 32MB
and it took 11 hours

gonna play with gknot some more.

TopHatTheater
23rd January 2002, 14:47
For a 90 minute, 1 CD movie, it only takes about two hours for me to encode. I get an average fps of 38-40 according to Gknot's log but I've seen it spike upwards of 53. I'm running an Athlon XP 1900 with 768 MB of PC2100 DDR on a Soyo K7V Dragon+.

~THT

TheWEF
24th January 2002, 01:47
i know this is a very popular discussion and it will always be back once in a while.
but every time i see the same mistake and i really don't understand why?
it should be obvious that resolution is one of the most important factors if you want to compare speed.

e.g. 640x464 has almost 3 times more pixels than 512x208, so there is 3 times more to resize, 3 times more to noise-filter, 3 times more to encode,...

so normally a 2cd-encode takes much longer than a 1cd encode,...

post your res or your post means nothing.

wef.

twistee
24th January 2002, 06:48
I want to know who the people are that can do both passes under 1 hour...there is 2 at the moment...i am jealous