Is there a player with these two options?

[moiz]

I'm a newbie and I have Windows Media Player 10 and K-Lite Mega Codec Pack (Media Player Classic).

I can change the brightness/contrats/saturation while viewing a movie in Windows Media Player but I don't find these options in Media Player Classic.

And in Media Player Classic, I can load subtitles from .srt or .sub but I'm unable to load them in Windows Media Player.

Is there any player in which the brightness/contrast/saturation of a movie can be changed while viewing along with the option of loading subtitles from .srt or .sub ???

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Run "Media Player Classic" or "Media Player Classic - Home Cinema" and use ffdshow-tryouts (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941) as your decoder.
It has the "Picture Properties" option, which should offer exactly what your are looking for!
You can also enforce ffdshow to work as a post-processor for any other decoder, if you don't want ffdshow to decode your source.

BTW: Get rid of the crappy codec pack. MPC+ffdshow and maybe HaaliMediaSplitter is all you need...

[Snowknight26]

Actually, to be fair, you don't even need MPC. Any directshow compatible player should work with what you want because the player only displays what the decoder (and post processor in the case of ffdshow) outputs.

[Dark Shikari]

Actually, to be fair, you don't even need MPC. Any directshow compatible playerBut most DirectShow-compatible players are not actually that reliable at doing their job.

The CCCP guys did an analysis of various DirectShow players (http://www.cccp-project.net/wiki/index.php?title=Media_Players) a while back and classified them based on their compatibility (or lack thereof) with DirectShow. MPC, as mentioned before, is just one of the best ones; there are others that work.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Also MPC-HC now has a great number of "internal" filters, including all decoders and splitters you'll need for your daily playback needs.
So you don't even need ffdshow or Haali nowadays, unless you need to use ffdshow's image processing capabilities.

And there always are (S)MPlayer and VLC as an alternative to the DirectShow world. Both include various image processing filters...

[Altaria]

I prefer KMPlayer especially for subtiles, and i think it's easier to handle as Videolan

[moiz]

BTW: Get rid of the crappy codec pack. MPC+ffdshow and maybe HaaliMediaSplitter is all you need...

Will I be able to play all files (such as avi, mp4, flv, aac, rm, mov, etc) without the codec pack? :confused:

Actually, I'm a newbie and I know nothing. Someone recommended K-Lite Mega Codec Pack, which I installed and now, I can play all the above mentioned formats in the Media Player Classic that came with it. Can they be played without the codec pack?

BTW, thank you to all of you!

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Will I be able to play all files (such as avi, mp4, flv, aac, rm, mov, etc) without the codec pack? :confused:

Yes, yes, yes !!!

All you will ever need is one of these players:
MPlayer (http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home/?page=projects#mplayer) -or- MPC Homecinema (http://www.xvidvideo.ru/content/category/1/1/2/) -or - VLC Player (http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home/?page=projects#mplayer)

No Codecs, Plugins, Filters or whatever will be needed! Such things would be needed for WMP or the "classic" MPC :rolleyes:
And even for these ffdshow-tryouts (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941) plus Haali Media Splitter (http://haali.cs.msu.ru/mkv/) would be all you'll neeed to play 99.9% of all files...

"Codec Packs" only bundle the stuff you need with a bunch of useless stuff. And they tend to mess up your system for no benefit!

[clsid]

"Codec Packs" only bundle the stuff you need with a bunch of useless stuff. And they tend to mess up your system for no benefit! Stop spreading bullshit.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

"Codec Packs" only bundle the stuff you need with a bunch of useless stuff. And they tend to mess up your system for no benefit!
Stop spreading bullshit.

Codec Packs == "Bullshit"

That's a fact. And I won't stop naming facts. You, as a ffdshow developer, should know it better :rolleyes:

[clsid]

It's your stupid opinion. Just like religion is a stupid opinion.

Proper codec packs come in different sizes. Even tiny ones with just the most essential stuff.
Proper codec packs are fully customizable.
Proper codec packs don't mess with your system.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

It's your stupid opinion. Just like religion is a stupid opinion.

I won't comment on this personal insult :rolleyes:

Proper codec packs come in different sizes. Even tiny ones with just the most essential stuff.
Proper codec packs are fully customizable.
Proper codec packs don't mess with your system.

The only "proper" Codec Pack is no Codec Pack. Download and install the "Codecs" you need and don't download/install anything else. Done.

As said before: Even in the DirectShow world we have an "all in one" solution now: MPC-Homecinema. It comes with all the required splitters and decoders built-in.
For all other DirectShow-based players you will be fine with ffdshow-tryouts + Haali Media Splitter for 99,9% of all files you get today...

[clsid]

With a codec pack you can also install exactly just those things that you need and nothing else. In one easy single step. Done more quickly. http://i35.tinypic.com/23iw0le.gif

[LoRd_MuldeR]

The one and only install step (in 99,9% of all cases) is: Extract "mplayerc.exe" from the ZIP file to the desired directory.
I wonder how a so-called "Codec Pack" can do this "more quickly" than 7-Zip does ...

[clsid]

Many of the internal filters of MPC are inferior to external filters, such as Haali splitter and ffdshow. Also, many people prefer to use another player, such as WMP. Yes, I know that is a POS, but the average Joe seems to like it for some odd reason. Furthermore, there are some popular audio formats that MPC doesn't support out of the box, like FLAC. So most people need to install at least a couple of things.

[leeperry]

I won't comment on this personal insult :rolleyes:

The only "proper" Codec Pack is no Codec Pack. Download and install the "Codecs" you need and don't download/install anything else. Done.
fully agreed, I see clsid is being nice to a lot of ppl(at some point I thought it was personal towards me :D )...even to LoRd_MuldeR who does that pretty cool MPLAYER package(too bad it doesn't support HR) :rolleyes:

anyhow, MPC/MPC HC freeze randomly while seeking when used together with Reclock(any version, it's been witnessed on several computers) :(

I'd say KMPlayer does everything you want, besides it doesn't freeze on seek, and doesn't stay as a process in memory when you close it(happens to me all the time with MPC :( ).

it does both hardware/software color correction, and it's got the most complete subs support you could possibly think of :)

[clsid]

I did not insult LoRd_MuldeR, at least that was not my intention. I respect him, I just disagree on this subject. I was just stressing the fact that what he claimed to be a fact was in fact not a fact :)

Last time I checked out KMPlayer, it came bundled with a lot of crap. It was even bigger than large packs.

MPC suits my needs. KMP suits yours. Someone else might prefer VLC. It is a free world.

[leeperry]

well yeah MPC is really nice....but it freezes randomly while seeking with Reclock, stays in memory as a process when you close it if you got strong ffdshow post-processing going.

plus the playlist feature is so basic, just like the GUI.

if you press the previous or next buttons in ZP or KMP, they open the previous/next files in the same folder....no such thing in MPC.

you can disable all the internal filters in KMP....then it's cool, even if it loads slower than MPC...at least it "works".

and the OP was asking about subs support, this is just crazy in KMP :D

and the icing on the cake in KMP is the "seamless playback", you can have 100 files in the same folder and it will virtually paste them and read them w/o any cut.

too bad Casimir(I know him from the french HCFR forum) only cares about DXVA to improve MPC HC, as it would really need other improvements :(

[avih]

With a codec pack you can also install exactly just those things that you need and nothing else. In one easy single step. Done more quickly. http://i35.tinypic.com/23iw0le.gif

IF you know what you need. The problem with codec packs is that most people who use them just install everything IMHO, and that CAN be problematic with many of those packs. So as a general recommendation for the average Joe, I'd say to avoid codec packs.

For people who are willing to listen, the dshow path should be first installing ffdshow+MPC (or similar), and only then, if a specific codec is missing (unlikely if ffdshow is set to decode all audio and video formats which it can), add additional decoders.

Personally for me, MPC+ffdshow handles everything I throw at it, plus, IMO, MPC has really good UI and video controls (sans brightness...). Though I still keep VLC and MPUI/SMplayer shortcuts on my desktop, and I do use them, depending on the case and features I need from the specific playback.

So yes, codec packs are not evil, but I still won't recommend installing them as a first measure.

[clsid]

The simple GUI of MPC is one of the reasons I like it. I don't use Reclock or any extreme PP. MPC runs stable on my PC. I don't care about the playlist stuff, since I use Winamp for playing music.

Different use cases, different needs, results in different preferences.

Don't forget that Casimir does the development in his spare time. His ToDo list is huge with many suggestions piling up. I am sure many issues will get fixed and improvements made in the future. The stability issues are hard to fix because it is very difficult to reproduce them consistently.

[clsid]

IF you know what you need. The problem with codec packs is that most people who use them just install everything IMHO, and that CAN be problematic with many of those packs. So as a general recommendation for the average Joe, I'd say to avoid codec packs.

For people who are willing to listen, the dshow path should be first installing ffdshow+MPC (or similar), and only then, if a specific codec is missing (unlikely if ffdshow is set to decode all audio and video formats which it can), add additional decoders.

Personally for me, MPC+ffdshow handles everything I throw at it, plus, IMO, MPC has really good UI and video controls (sans brightness...). Though I still keep VLC and MPUI/SMplayer shortcuts on my desktop, and I do use them, depending on the case and features I need from the specific playback.

So yes, codec packs are not evil, but I still won't recommend installing them as a first measure.
People that don't know what they need, should arguably use packs instead of messing around themselves. A properly designed pack will allow them to play all their files. It might install a bit more than they would need, true. But a good pack does not install any 'bad' stuff. Unused stuff won't have any negative impact.
An unknowing user that starts installing individual codecs/filters is far more likely to install something bad/old/buggy and mess their system up.
Also codec packs are not per definition huge. There are also very small packs that contain just a handful of filters. Many people here say that they use something like MPC+Haali+ffdshow+VSFilter. Well, there are simple packs that basically contain just that.

[leeperry]

The simple GUI of MPC is one of the reasons I like it. I don't use Reclock or any extreme PP. MPC runs stable on my PC. I don't care about the playlist stuff, since I use Winamp for playing music.

Different use cases, different needs, results in different preferences.

Don't forget that Casimir does the development in his spare time. His ToDo list is huge with many suggestions piling up. I am sure many issues will get fixed and improvements made in the future. The stability issues are hard to fix because it is very difficult to reproduce them consistently.
actually Seb.26(an occasional ffdshow coder from HCFR) made a launcher for me that kills MPC when it closes, hides OzoneMP's GUI, etc etc..

I also enjoy MPC's basic GUI, but come on...how about adding some color/new icons to it ? we're not in 1995 anymore :(

using a HTPC w/o Reclock is like driving the wrong way on a highway for me(can't stand dropped frames in 48Hz :D )

the previous/next buttons feature is great for TV series/movies cut in 2 parts/concerts/etc etc...I use MPC for music myself, with ffdshow 32float/96 resampling + OzoneMP :D

anyway Gabest was right, KMP is clearly based on MPC's code(pretty obvious as several identical bugs are in both players)....but well...

if you wanna iron out bugs in MPC, I'm fully willing to help..

[moiz]

I've uninstalled K-Lite Mega Codec Pack along with Media Player Classic that came with. And got Media Player Classic Homecinema! It's playing all my files except .rm and .mov, actually it's playing .mov without the audio! What else should I install?

What's the difference between ffdshow and ffdshow-tryouts?

[clsid]

Most people (including me) don't use the name ffdshow-tryouts, but simply name it ffdshow instead. The development of the original ffdshow project stopped in 2005. Tryouts continued from there.

You most likely need ffdshow for the audio in that file. Also enable the internal MP4/MOV splitter in MPC. If that doesn't work, then install QuickTime Alternative.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

And got Media Player Classic Homecinema! It's playing all my files except .rm and .mov, actually it's playing .mov without the audio! What else should I install?

1. If any audio/video decoder is missing in MPC-HC, I'd install ffdshow(-tryouts) and enable the required format in ffdshow decoder controls.

2. MPC-HC should be able to handle QuickTime MOV files, using it's internal "MP4/MOV" source filter and it's internal transform filters.

3. If MPC-HC cannot handle a certain MOV file via DirectShow, it can still use QuickTime instead of DirectShow for these files (given that QuickTime is installed).

4. For your Real RM file the same applies: MPC-HC should handle this using it's internal "RealMedia" source filter and it's "RealAudio" and "RealVideo" transform filters.

5. If MPC-HC cannot handle a certain RM file via DirectShow, it can again handle these files via RealMedia instead of DirectShow (given that RealPlayer is installed).


Last but not least you can always use MPlayer for Win32 (http://mulder.dummwiedeutsch.de/home/?page=projects#mplayer), which still is the most complete "all in one" playback solution! (Maybe along with VLC Player)

[clsid]

4. For your Real RM file the same applies: MPC-HC should handle this using it's internal "RealMedia" source filter and it's "RealAudio" and "RealVideo" transform filters.

5. If MPC-HC cannot handle a certain RM file via DirectShow, it can again handle these files via RealMedia instead of DirectShow (given that RealPlayer is installed).Just to clarify, both these methods require RealPlayer or Real Alternative to be installed.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Just to clarify, both these methods require RealPlayer or Real Alternative to be installed.

Do you really need to install RealPlayer/RealAlternative to use MPC-HC's internal (built-in) "RealAudio" and "RealVideo" decoders ???

(MPlayer should be able to handle it without installing additional software)

[clsid]

Yes, the RealMedia stuff is really needed. The internal RealMedia decoders are just wrappers.

Decoders for RV30/RV40 are in development in the FFmpeg project. They are not fully finished yet. RV10/RV20 are supported already, but I am not sure if they are any good. Besides, most RM files use RV30 or RV40 video. MPlayer either use the (unfinished) FFmpeg decoders, or also uses the binary codecs.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Yes, the RealMedia stuff is really needed. The internal RealMedia decoders are just wrappers.

Too bad. Hopefully the wrappers will be replaced with fully-fledged decoders, once FFmpeg has done it once again :)

I think MPlayer uses a thrid-party redistributable DLL for RealMedia support right now, but without having to install/register anything (e.g. RealPlayer or RealAlternative) on a system-wide scope.

[moiz]

I've tried VLC, GOMPlayer, MPlayer, SMPlayer !!!

VLC has subtitles support and played .rm and .mov instantly but, brightness/contrast/saturation are absent.

GOMPlayer has both brightness/contrast/saturation and subitles option, but it 'needs' to install the codecs for .rm and .mov to play them.

MPlayer and SMPlayer have subtitles and brightness/contrast/saturation options and also played .rm and .mov files without any problem, but, they're playing FLV files with a grill of green lines on it. Though MCP HC is playing FLV files properly.

Now, I'll try KMPlayer...

[LoRd_MuldeR]

VLC has subtitles support and played .rm and .mov instantly but, brightness/contrast/saturation are absent.

Oh, really? :D

http://img519.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vlceqpf8.png

MPlayer and SMPlayer have subtitles and brightness/contrast/saturation options and also played .rm and .mov files without any problem, but, they're playing FLV files with a grill of green lines on it.

I never found problems with playing FLV files in MPlayer. Can you provide a sample ???

[moiz]

Oh VLC has it! Thanks for the info! But, I don't like VLC because of it's timeline. When I move the knob forward or backward, it takes a jerk! The video remains still for a few seconds but the audio changes to the new timecode. This is not the case in other players. In SMPlayer/MPlayer/MPC/MPC HC, no matter where you click on the timeline, the video + audio starts from it's new timecode immidiately.

I've uploaded the FLV, it's an old song of Pakistani film downloaded from YouTube.

http://dc87.4shared.com/img/69957194/a7583d47/Shah-e-Madina.flv (http://www.4shared.com/file/69957194/a7583d47/Shah-e-Madina.html)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

I've uploaded the FLV, it's an old song of Pakistani film downloaded from YouTube.

http://dc87.4shared.com/img/69957194/a7583d47/Shah-e-Madina.flv (http://www.4shared.com/file/69957194/a7583d47/Shah-e-Madina.html)

Looks like some weird colorspace conversion problem with the DX renderer to me :eek:
When using the GL renderer -or- enforcing s/w colorspace conversion it looks good again!

Try one of these:
C:\Program Files (x86)\MPlayer for Windows>mplayer.exe -vo gl "c:\Downloads\shah-e-madina.flv"
C:\Program Files (x86)\MPlayer for Windows>mplayer.exe -vf-add scale "c:\Downloads\shah-e-madina.flv"

In SMPlayer goto "Options" -> "Preferences" -> "General" -> "Video" -> "Output driver" and select "gl"
-or- goto "Options" -> "Preferences" -> "Advanced" -> "Options for MPlayer" -> "Options:" and append "-vf-add scale"

[zachdms]

It's your stupid opinion. Just like religion is a stupid opinion.

Proper codec packs come in different sizes. Even tiny ones with just the most essential stuff.
Proper codec packs are fully customizable.
Proper codec packs don't mess with your system.This isn't a matter of opinion, though. I know who you are, you probably know who I am. I respect your knowledge, I presume you recognize mine.

Note that you have to *qualify* the usage of the term "codec packs" with "proper" codec packs. That might not be scary to you because you limit your exposure to things that don't bork your system... but I have probably the most widespread exposure to systems of anyone here, and bad codec packs are killing user's systems. And ruining the name of codec packs.

So if you want to vouch for "codec packs", vouch for the specific good ones. If you want to go so far as to vouch for K-Lite Mega, you should at least be forthright enough to say "K-Lite version 3.6.3 or newer ONLY". Otherwise, I and others *do* have the obligation as responsible members of the multimedia community to raise the warning flag.

You did me a great favor to get K-Lite to pull their registration of Indeo back in December, and I appreciate it. But what led up to that on my side was the recognition that the single largest cause of failure in all of multimedia across Windows was codec packs (a problem still not effectively solved since we have sites caching old versions, but at least a significant dent has been made). *And* the single biggest common failure point across all of the multimedia applications in Windows Vista was due to K-Lite.

That is a badge of shame and dishonor that you cannot forget. This isn't opinion.

I love and support anyone in their quest for excellence. We do that by being honest about failures. If you want to say that K-Lite is probably safe now, say that. But if you want to say that K-Lite Mega wouldn't bork your system ever, that's sadly just not true. And it's abusive to those of us who have had to sort out and work through that cr*p to say that that's not the case. :)

I'm sure we're all on the same page here at the end of the day. Thanks for helping get K-Lite fixed up in that capacity: it really does do all its users good. *thumbs up*

[clsid]

You are correct. Using up-to-date software is a must. That applies to codec packs, operating systems, and so on.

[moiz]

Looks like some weird colorspace conversion problem with the DX renderer to me :eek:
When using the GL renderer -or- enforcing s/w colorspace conversion it looks good again!

Try one of these:
C:\Program Files (x86)\MPlayer for Windows>mplayer.exe -vo gl "c:\Downloads\shah-e-madina.flv"
C:\Program Files (x86)\MPlayer for Windows>mplayer.exe -vf-add scale "c:\Downloads\shah-e-madina.flv"

In SMPlayer goto "Options" -> "Preferences" -> "General" -> "Video" -> "Output driver" and select "gl"
-or- goto "Options" -> "Preferences" -> "Advanced" -> "Options for MPlayer" -> "Options:" and append "-vf-add scale"
Thanks for your concern, but 'first impression is the last impression'. VLC, SMPlayer and MPlayer left a bad impression because of this. Whereas, MPC-HC, GOM Player and KMPlayer (http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53925) played it perfectly!

After trying all of the above, I'm now using KMPlayer (http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53925) with Real Alternative Lite (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative_Lite.htm) and all my files are playing without any trouble with all the features I want.

I've not tried your Full Package because it'll take more space than KMPlayer and Real Alternative Lite put together.

Thanks again! :)

[moiz]

I'd say KMPlayer does everything you want, besides it doesn't freeze on seek, and doesn't stay as a process in memory when you close it(happens to me all the time with MPC :( ).

it does both hardware/software color correction, and it's got the most complete subs support you could possibly think of :)

Yeah, you're spot on! I'm really really happy with KMPlayer! (http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53925)

:thanks:

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Thanks for your concern, but 'first impression is the last impression'. VLC, SMPlayer and MPlayer left a bad impression because of this. Whereas, MPC-HC, GOM Player and KMPlayer (http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53925) played it perfectly!

After trying all of the above, I'm now using KMPlayer (http://www.kmplayer.com/forums/showthread.php?p=53925) with Real Alternative Lite (http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Real_Alternative_Lite.htm) and all my files are playing without any trouble with all the features I want.

I've not tried your Full Package because it'll take more space than KMPlayer and Real Alternative Lite put together.

Thanks again! :)

It seems you don't understand the fundamental difference between all those DirectShow-based players (WMP, MPC, MPC-HC, KMPlayer, etc) and MPlayer yet.

Anyways, discarding MPlayer - the most powerful "all in one" playback solution in existence - just because you had a very minor problem with one spcific file, is more than overhasty :eek:

Also judging a player primarily by it's download size is nonsense. And just for your info:
My MPlayer package is 100% self contained, while all those DirectShow-based players require the DirectShow framework.
So please add at least 84 MB for the DirectX installer to your size calculation for KMPlayer! Which one is smaller then?

[clsid]

DirectShow is just a tiny part of DirectX. The DirectShow stuff is less than 1 MB compressed. But nevertheless, size is not really important.

[leeperry]

Yeah, you're spot on! I'm really really happy with KMPlayer!
:thanks:
yeah KMP is great stuff, once you disable all the internal filters.
too bad opening a video takes twice longer than MPC, but you can't get it all I guess :(

at least MPC for music is very fast to open and doesn't freeze on seeks..besides its Gabest's MP3 decoder is the best one for me, very wide soundstage, very clear audio.

and it can output 32float, so I can directly use OzoneMP on top of it in ffdshow and output 32float/96KHz to my M-Audio soundcard drivers(with "heavy" noiseshaping)...the SQ is too awesome :eek:
MPlayer - the most powerful "all in one" playback solution in existence
is there a way to use HR in this player ?
apparently Reclock is compatible.

[LoRd_MuldeR]

is there a way to use HR in this player ?
apparently Reclock is compatible.

What is HR ???

[leeperry]

What is HR ???
Haali's Renderer :o

[LoRd_MuldeR]

Haali's Renderer :o

MPlayer does not build up on DirectShow, hence it doesn't use/support/require any DirectShow-Renderes for obvious reasons.

I highly recommend you give MPlayer's GL renderer a try. It has various scaling algos to select, from pretty "smooth" to pretty "sharp".
Also the Overlay renderer plus "Lanczos" software scaling (SMPlayer has a built-in option for that) is a high quality solution, if you got a fast CPU.

And if you are crazy, use the "matrixview" renderer :D

[leeperry]

MPlayer does not build up on DirectShow, hence it doesn't use/support/require any DirectShow-Renderes for obvious reasons.

I highly recommend you give MPlayer's GL renderer a try. It has various scaling algos to select, from pretty "smooth" to pretty "sharp".
Also the Overlay renderer plus "Lanczos" software scaling (SMPlayer has a built-in option for that) is a high quality solution, if you got a fast CPU.

And if you are crazy, use the "matrixview" renderer :D
oh right, I overlooked that it didn't use any DS filter..

well the added value of HR w/ Reclock is that HR never drops frames in 48Hz, as it's using its built-in frames cache in the graphic's card RAM to offer realtime jitter correction and butter smooth video playback :cool:

I quickly tried MPlayer(also ZP6, MPC, BSPlayer...I think I pretty much tried them all lately), but you can't even force ffdshow in MPlayer ?

[LoRd_MuldeR]

...but you can't even force ffdshow in MPlayer ?

No, you can't. For the very same reason I already mentioned:
Unlike WMP, MPC, MPC-HC, ZoomPlayer, KMPlayer and all the others, MPlayer is not yet another "front-end" to the DirectShow framework.
Hence it does not use/support/require any DirectShow filters. MPlayer is one single "standalone" EXE file. That's it!

Also there's no sense in using ffdshow in MPlayer. The purpose of ffdshow is making the ffmpeg decoders available to the DirectShow world.
MPlayer has all these decoders built-in, most likely MPlayer even has more decoders than ffdshow offers. So what do you need ffdshow for?
If you miss the post-processing filters of ffdshow, have a look on MPlayer's video filters. There are many.

And if you still prefer the ffdshow way, get yourself one if the many DirectShow-based players instead of MPlayer or VLC :p

[leeperry]

If you miss the post-processing filters of ffdshow, have a look on MPlayer's video filters. There are many.

And if you still prefer the ffdshow way, get yourself one if the many DirectShow-based players instead of MPlayer or VLC :p
well I'm quite hooked to using winamp2/avisynth plugins in ffdshow actually....so I'll follow your advice, and stick to KMP for video & MPC for music ;)

[LoRd_MuldeR]

well I'm quite hooked to using winamp2/avisynth plugins in ffdshow actually....

Just for your info: MPlayer is able to play Avisynth scripts.

[moiz]

It seems you don't understand the fundamental difference between all those DirectShow-based players (WMP, MPC, MPC-HC, KMPlayer, etc) and MPlayer yet.
Now, I have! :p

Anyways, discarding MPlayer - the most powerful "all in one" playback solution in existence - just because you had a very minor problem with one spcific file, is more than overhasty :eek:
I have not discarded it, I never said that it's a bad player or something. It's just that KMPlayer has become my personal preference!

Also judging a player primarily by it's download size is nonsense.
True! I'm not judging any player, I can't. I'm a newbie whose knowledge on the subject is a bit more than zero. It's a matter of personal preference.

And just for your info:
My MPlayer package is 100% self contained, while all those DirectShow-based players require the DirectShow framework.
So please add at least 84 MB for the DirectX installer to your size calculation for KMPlayer! Which one is smaller then?
I've not installed DirectX for KMPlayer. It was already installed becuase of FIFA, Need For Speed, etc. Even if I won't use KMPlayer, I'll need DirectX for those games. If KMPlayer wanna use it too, most welcome! Intalling your Full Package will take more space in this case for me! But, of course, size is unimportant.

Anyways, KMPlayer has solved all my issues and I'm really really enjoying it !!! :)

And thanks for making me uninstall the K Lite Mega Codec Pack! :)

[moiz]

yeah KMP is great stuff, once you disable all the internal filters.
How to disable all the internal filters?

too bad opening a video takes twice longer than MPC, but you can't get it all I guess :(
I takes 2 seconds more than MPC. But, 2 seconds are negligible!

at least MPC for music is very fast to open and doesn't freeze on seeks..besides its Gabest's MP3 decoder is the best one for me, very wide soundstage, very clear audio.

and it can output 32float, so I can directly use OzoneMP on top of it in ffdshow and output 32float/96KHz to my M-Audio soundcard drivers(with "heavy" noiseshaping)...the SQ is too awesome :eek:
How to do all this? Could you please guide me step-by-step?

[leeperry]

Just for your info: MPlayer is able to play Avisynth scripts.
OK thanks for the headsup ;)

How to disable all the internal filters?
first disable the "audio transform filter" and "video transform filter, then enable superspeed & high speed mode.
then in "Decoder usage", check the option on top.
in "filter control", uncheck everything except "enable KMP graph builder"
then you need to make KMP detect the installed filters by clicking on "external decoder search" and then "add after scan" in the "external video decoder" section.
and finally you can select every decoder you want.

How to do all this? Could you please guide me step-by-step?
1)install OzoneMP
2)in Gabest's audio decoder(either in MPC or KMP), set its output to "IEEE float"
3)in ffdshow audio, in the codecs section, set "all supported" for "uncompressed".
4)specify your winamp install dir in the "winamp2" filter
5)in the processing section, set "32 bit floating point", check "dithering" and set it to heavy
6)enable the "resample" filter, set it to 88200 and check "libavcodec highest quality"(I find it to sound better than libsamplerate)
7)in the output filter of ffdshow audio, set it also to "32 bit floating point"

then you can either choose to resample prior to process within OzoneMP, or the other way around....I leave it to you if you hear a difference :D

if your soundcard does 192KHz, upsampling to 176.4Khz might be a better idea(4x44.1)...it all depends on your audio gear/drivers/speakers.

but anyway, mp3's sound really awesome this way :eek:

there's a slight bug in ffdshow audio, which makes it freezing a bit each time you open a new file if you're using OzoneMP :(

a friend of mine has made a debug winamp2 plugin that I've given to Haruhiko(the main ffdshow coder).

he's told me that the fix was low priority, but that he would have a look at it.

so until a fix appears, you have to cope with the slight freezing each time you open a new file, set ALT+F4 to one of your mouse buttons to kill your player before opening a new track or use a batch to kill your player process between each track.

sounds cumbersome, but this plugin is really dynamite :eek:

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http://3d2f.com/smartreviews/0-377-ozonemp-it-sounds-good-read.shtml

OzoneMP is a brilliant tool that simply makes the music sound better. It is a real miracle. OzoneMP is very helpful software that enriches your audio files with a few deft touches — warmth, bass, and sparkle — and thus makes your favorite tunes sound deep and full.
The principle of operation is rather simple; it just models the analog characteristics of vintage audio equipment, such as tube amplifiers and valve equalizers.

I'm dying to see full support in ffdshow, maybe one day :cool: