DVD DL Media That Burns Slower than Rated Speed

[BassPig]

Burning dual layer media with LG GGW-H20L:

I have some cheap Ridata discs that burn at 3.9X (actual).
I recently bought some Philips DVD+R DL that boast 8X recording speeds on the package, but in actual burns, they burn at 2.3X.

Shouldn't the 8X discs burn at 8X? The LG is supposed to be a capable burner, and it's specs sure suggest it should be burning faster than it is. Is this some sort of mismatch between media and burner, or what else?

[blutach]

Probably a firmware issue. Check out what speeds are supported for that media in your burn log.

Regards

[BassPig]

How do I find this burn log? I assume it's a feature that can be enabled in Nero 8?

[setarip_old]

@BassPig

Hi!

I believe it's enabled by default. It's named "NeroHistoryLog" and it's likely in your NERO folder...

[blutach]

Or pop a blank into ImgBurn and read what it says for supported write speeds in the right hand info pane in write mode.

Regards

[BassPig]

@BassPig

Hi!

I believe it's enabled by default. It's named "NeroHistoryLog" and it's likely in your NERO folder...

I did a search for the string in the Nero folder, specifying all subfolders, but a search for the root name and the root name.* turned up no files found.

[jeffy]

@BassPig: Did you search in: C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\?

[BassPig]

@BassPig: Did you search in: C:\Documents and Settings\{username}\Application Data\?

Not initially. And the filename is different. It's NeroHistory.log, not NeroHistoryLog.

Here it is:

======================================
Windows XP 5.1
IA32
WinAspi: -

NT-SPTI used
Nero Version: 8.0.3.0
Internal Version: 8, 0, 3, 0

Recorder: <HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L>Version: YL02 - HA 1 TA 1 - 8.0.3.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1
Drive buffer : 2048kB
Bus Type : default
CD-ROM: <PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D>Version: 1.24 - HA 1 TA 0 - 8.0.3.0
Adapter driver: <IDE> HA 1

=== Scsi-Device-Map ===
DiskPeripheral : VIDEO_RAID01 iaStor Port 0 ID 0 DMA: On
CdRomPeripheral : HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L iaStor Port 0 ID 1 DMA: Off
CdRomPeripheral : PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D atapi Port 1 ID 0 DMA: On
DiskPeripheral : SATA WDC WD5000 jraid Port 3 ID 0 DMA: Off
DiskPeripheral : SATA WDC WD5000 jraid Port 3 ID 1 DMA: Off

=== CDRom-Device-Map ===
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-112D I: CdRom0
HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L H: CdRom1
=======================

AutoRun : 0
Excluded drive IDs:
WriteBufferSize: 83886080 (0) Byte
BUFE : 0
Physical memory : 2047MB (2097151kB)
Free physical memory: 2047MB (2097151kB)
Memory in use : 20
Uncached PFiles: 0x0
Use Inquiry : 1
Global Bus Type: default (0)
Check supported media : Disabled (0)

9.9.2008
UDF compilation
1:49:37 PM #1 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
LockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL

1:49:37 PM #2 Text 0 File Isodoc.cpp, Line 6668
UDF document burn settings
------------------------------------------
Determine maximum speed : FALSE
Simulate : FALSE
Write : TRUE
Finalize CD : TRUE
Multisession : FALSE
Burning mode : DAO
Mode : 1
UDF Mode : pure
UDF Options : automatic
UDF Revision : 1.02
UDF Partition Type : physical

1:49:37 PM #3 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 3520
Turn on Disc-At-Once, using DVD media

1:49:37 PM #4 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 307
Last possible write address on media: 2298495 (510:46.45, 4489MB)
Last address to be written: 2017823 (448:24.23, 3941MB)

1:49:37 PM #5 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 319
Write in overburning mode: NO

1:49:37 PM #6 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 2972
Recorder: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L, Media type: DVD-R
Disc Manufacturer: TTH02 -
Disc Application Code: 64, Disc Physical Code: 193

1:49:37 PM #7 Text 0 File DlgWaitCD.cpp, Line 493
>>> Protocol of DlgWaitCD activities: <<<
=========================================

1:49:37 PM #8 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 795
Setup items (after recorder preparation)
0: TRM_DATA_MODE1 ()
2 indices, index0 (150) not provided
original disc pos #0 + 2017824 (2017824) = #2017824/448:24.24
relocatable, disc pos for caching/writing not required/ required
-> TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048, config 0, wanted index0 0 blocks, length 2017824 blocks [H: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L]
--------------------------------------------------------------

1:49:37 PM #9 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 997
Prepare [H: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L] for write in CUE-sheet-DAO
DAO infos:
==========
MCN: ""
TOCType: 0x00; Session Closed, disc fixated
Tracks 1 to 1: Idx 0 Idx 1 Next Trk
1: TRM_DATA_MODE1, 2048/0x00, FilePos 0 0 4132503552, ISRC ""
DAO layout:
===========
___Start_|____Track_|_Idx_|_CtrlAdr_|_____Size_|______NWA_|_RecDep__________
0 | lead-in | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 0 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00
0 | 1 | 1 | 0x41 | 2017824 | 0 | 0x00
2017824 | lead-out | 1 | 0x41 | 0 | 0 | 0x00

1:49:37 PM #10 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 215
SPTILockVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_LOCK_VOLUME

1:49:37 PM #11 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4306
Caching options: cache CDRom or Network-Yes, small files-No (<64KB)

1:49:37 PM #12 Phase 24 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
Caching of files started

1:49:37 PM #13 Text 0 File Burncd.cpp, Line 4425
Cache writing successful.

1:49:37 PM #14 Phase 25 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
Caching of files completed

1:49:37 PM #15 Phase 36 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
Burn process started at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

1:49:37 PM #16 Text 0 File ThreadedTransferInterface.cpp, Line 2723
Verifying disc position of item 0 (relocatable, disc pos, no patch infos, orig at #0): write at #0

1:49:37 PM #17 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3227
Recording mode: Sequential Recording Mode

1:49:37 PM #18 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3383
Start write address at LBA 0
DVD high compatibility mode: Yes

1:49:37 PM #19 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 9918
---- Disc Structure: Physical Format Information (00h) ----
Media Type: 0, Layer: 0, Address: 0 (0 h), AGID: 0; Length: 2050
Book Type: DVD-R (2), Part Version: 2.0x (5), Extended Part Version: 2.1 (33)
Disc Size: 120 mm, Maximum Rate: <not specified> (F h)
Number of Layers: 1, Track Path: Parallel Track Path (PTP), Layer Type: recordable
Linear Density: 0,267 um/bit, Track Density: 0,74 um/track
Starting Physical Sector Number of Data Area: 30000 h (DVD-ROM, DVD-R/-RW, DVD+R/+RW)
End Sector Number in Layer 0: 0 h (LBN: FFFD0000 h, 4193920 MB)
Data in Burst Cutting Area (BCA) does not exist
Revision number of maximum recording speed: 6.0
Revision number of minimum recording speed: -
Revision number table of recording speed: 1.0 2.0 3.0 4.0 5.0 - -
Class: 0
Start sector number of the current Border-Out: 2FE10 h
Start sector number of the next Border-In: 2FFA0 h
Media Specific [16..63]:
00 60 00 10 20 30 40 50 - 00 00 00 21 00 00 00 00 .`...0@P...!....
00 02 FE 10 00 02 FF A0 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 - 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 ................

1:49:37 PM #20 Text 0 File ThreadedTransfer.cpp, Line 269
Pipe memory size 83836800

1:49:58 PM #21 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 1342
13:49:58.421 - 㩈䠠ⵌ呄匭⁔䑂刭⁅䜠均䠭〲L : Queue again later

1:54:46 PM #22 Text 0 File WriterStatus.cpp, Line 113
<H: HL-DT-ST BD-RE GGW-H20L> start writing Lead-Out at LBA 2017824 (1ECA20h), length 0 blocks

1:54:58 PM #23 Text 0 File DVDR.cpp, Line 3785
EndDAO: Last written address was 2017823 (1ECA1Fh)

1:54:58 PM #24 Phase 37 File dlgbrnst.cpp, Line 1762
Burn process completed successfully at 16x (22,160 KB/s)

1:54:59 PM #25 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 261
SPTIDismountVolume - completed successfully for FSCTL_DISMOUNT_VOLUME

1:55:05 PM #26 Text 0 File Cdrdrv.cpp, Line 11159
DriveLocker: UnLockVolume completed

1:55:05 PM #27 Text 0 File SCSIPTICommands.cpp, Line 424
UnLockMCN - completed sucessfully for IOCTL_STORAGE_MCN_CONTROL


Existing drivers:

Registry Keys:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\WinLogon\AllocateCDROMs : 0 (Security Option)

====== *** Nero Burning ROM, History File *** ============================================

Some things bother me about the log: the DMA settings of some drives on the RAID controller for instance. Since I cannot change the DMA settings for the RAID controller (the tab does not exist in hardware properties the way it does for IDE/SATA controllers as it's under SCSI controllers), I can't change DMA=no to DMA=yes.

The other thing is where do I tell what speed the disc media supports? Can't figure that one out either..

[setarip_old]

It's NeroHistory.log, not NeroHistoryLog.Oops! Sorry I omitted the "dot"...

[BassPig]

I just updated my firmware to YL03, which is the latest. The Phillips discs still report 2.4X max burn speed, while that packaging claims it is 8X speed. There doesn't seem much more I can do but send these discs back for refund and try another brand.

Anyone know what DL DVD brand actually writes at close to 8X on the GGW-H20L?

[Inventive Software]

Verbatim DVD+R DL. 'nuff said. ;)

[blutach]

I use Verbatim, +R, 2.4x, MKM-001-00, Made in Singapore and burn them at 4x. I know you are looking for speed, but this can cause inferior burns, particularly on layer 1. It also seems from reading around that people have had better experience with the MKM-001s than the 003s (8x). It's up to you, but these babies don't make cheap coasters.

Regards

[BassPig]

I hear you regarding burn speeds and reliable data storage. It's just that I really need faster storage for archiving XDCam footage. In one weekend I shot 156 GIGAbytes of HD video. It took me TWO DAYS of burning DL discs to archive it all. I keep thinking there's got to be a better way. BD-R is still prohibitively expensive on the blank media, and single layer would be the equivalent of using PKZip to span a 120MB file across 100 floppy discs--4.7GB is just too small and the result is large numbers of discs and shelf storage issues. Right now, I've got 24 DL DVDs just for one air show I shot last weekend, archive of raw footage. I put them in a cake box, because 24 jewel cases would just take up too much shelf space.

[Inventive Software]

Have you considered HDDs?