CCCP and FFDShow with spesific settings do not work in some players

[MrHaugen]

Hi

Posted this in CCCP forums as well, but they told me to ask here instead.

I'm having a huge problem with FFDShow 3D Denoise settings under Blur & NR, as well as at least one Dscaler filter called FLT_Sharpness_sse2.dll. The problem does not appear in the Zoom Player version that's included in CCCP, but it very noticable with the same FFDShow settings in J River Media Center 12. The problem is that the video is slowed down to about half the speed of the sound. I have checked that FFDShow, and the correct setting is used in both players.

Many other settings in FFDSHow seems to work, but I have really gotten fond of the two I'm describing. I'm willing to try other thigs if this can not be solved though. If they giv the same, or a better result...

The problem appears for all kinds of file formats, and I have posted the insurgent log before. Nothing looks wrong with the media it self. The reason as to why I ask here is because older CCCP's works great on the latest build of J River Meida Center 12. But not the new one. That's why I guess there might be a problem with something in the newer builds of CCCP.

I have tried about anything that I can think of, as well as some suggestions from other people in J River and CCCP forums, but I'm at a dead end it seems.

Could anyone wich have more knowledge of decoding and FFDShow help me out? Try the newer CCCP and JRMC12 maby?

[Dark Shikari]

I'm having a huge problem with FFDShow 3D Denoise settings under Blur & NR, as well as at least one Dscaler filter called FLT_Sharpness_sse2.dll. The problem does not appear in the Zoom Player version that's included in CCCP, but it very noticable with the same FFDShow settings in J River Media Center 12. The problem is that the video is slowed down to about half the speed of the sound.That's because your computer is too slow to run those filters in real-time.

[MrHaugen]

That's because your computer is too slow to run those filters in real-time.

With a Core 2 Duo at 3.4GHz, 2 GB with RAM, I really don't think that's the reason.

I've also been used to run Aspect and Rezise to 3200 x 3200 with Lancos at four or five taps I belive, including the settings and filters I now have a problem with. This time I don't even hade the Aspect and Resize enabled!

I also said that the same CCCP and FFDShow on Zoom Player plays fine. With ALL the setting selected. JRMC12 a lightweight media center, so I'm 99% sure it's not hardware related.

[MrHaugen]

Come an. There have to be someone of you who could help out, or at least have any suspicions.

The only thing I can think of it to install a one and a half year old CCCP. I would like to not getting caught up in this version for the rest of my lifetime.

[check]

Are you saying the exact same settings are slower in recent builds of ffdshow, or just that similar settings are slower?

[MrHaugen]

Are you saying the exact same settings are slower in recent builds of ffdshow, or just that similar settings are slower?

The exact same settings in FFDShow. I have used it for several years, and have reinstalled alot of times in the quest to achieve the ultimate HTPC config. I have allways used the same dscaler filter, and dnois 3d settings.

[Nicholi]

I prolly missed this thread on CCCP forum because it was in the Playback Issue forum...and that is full of far too much madness @_@.

Have you tried reinstalling CCCP without ffdshow and using one of the slightly more "official" builds of ffdshow-tryouts (http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=173941&package_id=199416) instead? The builds they list as generic should be identical to CCCP's, and the way in which ffdshow is built for CCCP hasn't changed really in all the years it's been maintained. Just the version of GCC being incremented. If it does turn out to be a build issue it's something which should be easily fixable (on CCCP's end)...otherwise it is in fact a change in the codebase which has caused something to happen, which would take more effort from the ffd-tryouts devs end, and that is who checkers was telling you to report the issue to.

But they would most likely tell you the same thing. First try their builds to see if the same issue comes up. If the issue persists in their versions, they are the people you need to talk to. If not please come back to CCCP and harass me :3.

[MrHaugen]

Sorry for the slow answer. I had another huge project I had to complete before digging deeper into this one...

I tried one of the newest tryout versions, but unfortunatly I could not get a picture no mather what I tried. I tested with a new CCCP (wich also had a ffdshow tryout), on a fresh XP SP3 install. The same thing happend.
The video slowed down when I selected Dscaler filter and Blur & NR. After trying several setting I suddenly spotted 2 ffdshow video icons in the system tray (normally I have had this hidden). When I right clicked the icons I saw that the Dscaler filter and Blur & NR was set on both FFDSHow row video filter (as I expected) AND the FFDShow Video Decoder! After entering the FFDShow Video Decoder settings and disabeling decoders for every possible options/file types, the video played normally, and kept up with the sound! Hurray!!

It seems to me that one of two things have happend.
1. CCCP default settings enables ffdshow video decoder and do not disable it's use, even though another filter/decoder have been selected.
Aditionally, when I change the settings in raw video filter, the changes also affect the ffdshow video decodedr. Why I am not sure of.

2. J River Media Center 12 makes you select the filters you like for every video format. I have currently been testing on avi's, and have only selected the ffdshow raw video filter. MC12 uses the raw video filter, and somehow CCCP still insists on using the ffdshow video decoder as well.

I'm not really getting all of this integrations, but I hope I'm making some sense?

Earlier I have tried a 1'ish year old version of CCCP and it worked like expected in MC12. I also tried the never CCCP with Zoom Player, and it worked as well.
Is it possible that J River Media Centers application have changed something that makes it use both the selected filter and the more standard ffdshow video decoder? Or is it something that have been changed in CCCP or ffdshow it self?

This is really beyond me. I hope someone have the answer. Would be good to sort out. Other might fall into the same trap as well...