2 DVD movie

[Octo-puss]

So I finally added Schindler's List to my collection.
BUT it's on two DVDs with last hour being on 2nd (along with some bonus). I never saw this so I am a bit clueless - how do I get the movie onto my HDD in one piece? Any way to merge the material so it plays continuously? Or maybe do I encode both parts individually and then mux together? If it's possible at all.

[blutach]

Yes, you could rip both and demux and remux with muxman. Or use the VobEdit method (http://web.archive.org/web/20060515074953/http://www.ifoedit.com/joinclip.html#joindbl) to join them.

Remember if you want the menus to be right, you'll need to edit them.

Of course, if you don't want menus and don't care about the 2 second pause between the 2 DVDs, you could use DVD Shrink in re-author mode (http://www.dvdshrink.info/compilation.php) to make a compilation.

Regards

[Octo-puss]

Yup DVDshrink I tried but it produced something I didn't want. I want one continuous movie, not two chapters with 1s pause between them.
And I totally don't want ANY menus, titles, subtitles, just the movie in one piece like if it came from single disc.

[evdberg]

Just use DVD2one in (seamless) join mode ... it will keep all the chapter marks of the 2 parts, and let you select which audio and subtitle tracks you want.

[blutach]

@evdberg - I should have remembered to recommend DVD2One!

Regards

[Octo-puss]

Just use DVD2one in (seamless) join mode ... it will keep all the chapter marks of the 2 parts, and let you select which audio and subtitle tracks you want.

I don't quite understand the program. What seamless mode? Is that the middle option?
So I add the first DVD and then click +? Or ++? That I don't get...

[blutach]

Yes, the midde option and then the ++ (it will appear as "seamless title 1"). Then press the green button bottom right.

Regards

[Octo-puss]

Ok I got it. It even works!
All I need to do now is to buy it to bypass the 2hour limitation, lol :D

[Octo-puss]

One question though: it seems it applies some kind of compression. I just look for a way to merge the data, but not touch them otherwise. Is that possible¨?

[Video Dude]

Yes, in the settings set the output size to 9216 MB. That is the max output allowed by DVD2one. If the two parts are under that amount, no compression will be applied.

[Octo-puss]

Haha they aren't. That sucks - I don't want to lose any quality...
Is that program limitation or technology limitation?

[Video Dude]

It is the DVD spec.

Naming convention is 8 + 3 style.

So that would be VTS_01_1.vob --> VTS_01_9.vob.
Each vob 1 GB.

9 * 1024 = 9216

So anything over that would have to be VTS_01_10.vob, but that would be 9 characters before the extension and thus it violates the DVD spec.

For hard drive playback you can combine the vobs into one big vob file, but it won't play in a standalone dvd player. And of course there is no DVD media that large to be able to burn it anyway.

[Octo-puss]

I wouldn't mind one big VOB. But DVD2one doesn't support that :)
All I do with my DVDs is to rip and encode them cause I hate looking for a disc everytime I want to watch a movie.

[smok3]

what is your target format?

[Octo-puss]

x264/.mkv

[setarip_old]

So just convert the two discs separately and then join the .MKV files...

[smok3]

a. two folders, two rips
b. dgindex each
c. make avs for each dgindex
d. avsALL = avs1 + avs2 (with some trimming maybe)
e. preview avsALL, check for sync in 2nd part especially, something about aligned and unaligned splice.
f. encode avsALL

[Octo-puss]

So just convert the two discs separately and then join the .MKV files...

Is that doable in MeGUI's muxer? Or do I need some standalone utility?

[Octo-puss]

Got it :)
Avi-mux GUI
perfect!

[setarip_old]

Got it
Avi-mux GUI
perfect!Glad to hear the simple suggestion(s) worked for you ;>}

[Octo-puss]

I feel enlightened today :D

[flambot]

For movie only, why not just use VOBBlanker? I've joined all my 2disc movies with it - and this same title just a week ago. Works perfectly. Replace the last cell (usually blank) with a single vob outputted from the 2nd disc. Export. Open the export and split the last cell (now huge) into chapter sized chunks (make sure program/chapter is ticked when splitting). You'll get some warnings from VB, but it'll output fine. If more than 9vob's it'll make vob9 a big one. I use DVDshrink to write it to iso, or use the export to convert to another format

It's fast, keeps audio/subtitles intact and there is no demux/remux. Some titles require several exports to get the required result, but I've done all my 2disc movies using this method. I'm a happy camper :D

Edit - Fro running from HDD

[blutach]

Yes, the spec is limited to 10 VOBs (including menus 0-9). Size of a VOB, according to mpucoder is ...

broken up into 1GB files in the computer compatible file systems for the convenience of the various operating systems
So, having a big last VOB is no big deal if you are going to shrink it or convert it.

Regards

[Wombler]

For movie only, why not just use VOBBlanker? I've joined all my 2disc movies with it - and this same title just a week ago. Works perfectly. Replace the last cell (usually blank) with a single vob outputted from the 2nd disc. Export. Open the export and split the last cell (now huge) into chapter sized chunks (make sure program/chapter is ticked when splitting). You'll get some warnings from VB, but it'll output fine. If more than 9vob's it'll make vob9 a big one. I use DVDshrink to write it to iso, or use the export to convert to another format

It's fast, keeps audio/subtitles intact and there is no demux/remux. Some titles require several exports to get the required result, but I've done all my 2disc movies using this method. I'm a happy camper :D

Edit - Fro running from HDD

That's a very practical solution which leaves you free to compress with the program of your choice.

I like that one!
:goodpost:


Wombler

[evdberg]

I wouldn't mind one big VOB. But DVD2one doesn't support that :)

Not yet ... but the next version will ...

[Wombler]

Not yet ... but the next version will ...

That's great news evdberg.

I'd requested that as a feature a while ago.

Many thanks. :cool:


Wombler

[Octo-puss]

That sounds good!

[Sharc]

You could load all the .vobs into DGindex and create a .d2v project file which can be used by the encoder.