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rack04
23rd July 2008, 17:38
Is there something similar to tsMuxeR that allows for output to HD DVD format? I want to be able to back up my HD DVD collection to DVD that is playable on my Toshiba HD-A3. The process I currently use for backup and playback on my PC is:

1) Decrypt with AnyDVD HD.
2) Convert video in EVO container to MKV container using eac3to.
3) Convert audio in EVO container to AC3 using eac3to.
4) Encode video to DVD-9 files size using MeGUI SA-HD-DVD preset profile.
5) Mux video and audio in MKV container using MeGUI.

CanuckGod
23rd July 2008, 18:13
Hey rack04!

Not sure if I'm following, but I'm assuming you want it much like a 3xDVD (that is, a DVD dual or single layer disc with the movie in HD, such as 720p or 1080i/p). In that case, you would probably need either Sonic Scenarist (either SCA or ACA) or Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack addon (much cheaper, about $90 as opposed to much, much more for Scenarist). :devil:

In my case, I use the exact same profile as you have been doing, but instead of muxing the video and audio, I would keep the video as RAWAVC (which should output as a .264 file), and then I use H264info with only the '3:2 Pulldown' option checked, which should flag the video as 29.97fps, which is crucial for any authoring program. Next, I mux the pulldown video with the audio in TsMuxer, selecting the option to mux with 'TS muxing' output.

Once that's done, and assuming you have MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack, I would then select HD-DVD Standard from the main menu, then select 'HD-DVD on DVD 4.7G' or '8.5G' from the clickable box in the lower left corner, and drop your .ts muxed file into the timeline.

I have a Venturer SHD7000 DVD player, which is in reality a rebadged Toshiba HD-A3 (which is what you have) which even uses the same firmware (and I believe was built by Toshiba), and with the 3.0 firmware version, I've noticed that you can create chapters in MovieFactory without any problems playing back, so if you prefer to do that, by all means do so. Using those steps, I've had no trouble creating HD discs on DVD media, which ironically even works for backing up Blu-ray movies that you may own if you have a computer drive that reads those.

Of course, if anyone else knows of any free alternatives to authoring, or other programs, I'd love to hear those as well; this seems to be a dying art with Blu-ray winning the format war, but a lot of us have HD-DVD collections and players (got mine for $69 Canadian a couple months ago) and would like to make use of them still.

Good converting to all! :):):)

P.S. Don't forget to uncheck the 'Create Menu' option on the main timeline page if you're just wanting the movie to play without menus; it adds extra size to the disc output, which might make or break fitting it onto DVD-R/+R SL/DL media.

P.P.S. Sorry, I forgot to mention, you may want to downconvert any DTS or AAC tracks to AC3 format, MovieFactory seems to have an issue with not wanting to accept anything other than AC3, at least in my experience. Good luck!

rack04
23rd July 2008, 18:39
Great post thanks. So I either need to invest in Sonic Scenarist or Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack addon. Have you heard anything about Pinnacle Studio?

CanuckGod
23rd July 2008, 20:06
From what I've heard around the Net, version 11.5 still did HDDVD (not sure about the current version 12), but only with MPEG 2 source files, which would mean at most 80 minutes of video on a dual layer disc.

rack04
23rd July 2008, 20:15
From what I've heard around the Net, version 11.5 still did HDDVD (not sure about the current version 12), but only with MPEG 2 source files, which would mean at most 80 minutes of video on a dual layer disc.

Well then I guess I need to invest in Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack addon. Thanks. Do these programs re-encode or do the just build the HD DVD format?

CanuckGod
23rd July 2008, 20:24
No problem at all, glad to help. As it is, you seem to be ahead of the game as the video from your MKV backups should be compliant with MovieFactory; for the most part, I've been doing it from scratch, both with backing up my HDDVDs and with HDTV versions of TV series that I've collected, and now I've finally been able to commit them to disc instead of having them lay on my hard drives - though I have 2 TB in total storage, it was getting nearly full with the shows I was waiting to author :) :)

CanuckGod
24th July 2008, 08:40
Well then I guess I need to invest in Ulead DVD MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack addon. Thanks. Do these programs re-encode or do the just build the HD DVD format?

Generally, if you don't have compliant video/audio, they will re-encode, but if you follow the steps as I've listed in my previous posts, MovieFactory won't re-encode, just builds the HD-DVD (takes me about 5-10 minutes on my Core 2 Quad).

In your case, since you already have compliant video, you won't need to re-do MeGUI, just demux the video and audio (TSmuxer or MeGui (de)muxer tool, whichever you like), and then run the video through H264info, and go from there.

jshumate
29th July 2008, 19:15
CanuckGod is correct that MovieFactory will NOT accept any audio input except AC3 and apparently LPCM. I suspect that if the audio is greater than 448 Kbps for AC3 that Movie Factory may re-encode it down, but I haven't tested that.

I have done some MKV to HD DVD conversions using a different method, but CanuckGod's post seems better to me than my method. I will have to give his a shot and see how it works for me. A no longer being made version of Scenarist can author HD DVDs that Toshiba players will play, but you need to be familiar with how Scenarist works. It's NOT user friendly like Ulead.

ThrottleAbuse
10th August 2008, 04:32
Forgive my lack of understanding here. I am trying to convert an MKV to HD DVD also. I used MDVExtractto split the mkv into an h264 file and an ac3 audio file. Now I am trying to use the h264info program. Is the h264 supposed to take the file from a 23.97 fps and change it to a 29.97 fps by checking the 3:2 pulldown box? Should I be entering 29.97 in the Output framerate box? After h264info grinds away I just get a file that is just that a file. It doesnt say h264 file or anything like that. So when I go to mux it into a ts file in tsmuxer it doesnt recognize the file. I dont have Movie Factory 6, but I do have VideoStudio11Plus which I think will do everything Movie Factory 6 Plus will do, but I am not sure. Thanks for any help as I am very new to all of this.

OSL
10th August 2008, 12:02
I believe that this is the most convincing approach I have seen yet, however being a newbie, I can not get it to work.
I was therefore hoping that you would care to elaborate a little bit on the steps (especially step 4) to make it work:

1) Decrypt with AnyDVD HD
- Can EVODemux be used after this ?

2) Convert video in EVO container to MKV container using eac3to
– what is the actual eac3to command ? Is it simply ‘eac3to FEATURE_1.evo FEATURE_1.mkv’ ?

3) Convert audio in EVO container to AC3 using eac3to
–what is the actual eac3to command ? is it simply ‘eac3to FEATURE_1.evo FEATURE_1.ac3’ ?

4) Encode video to DVD-9 files size using MeGUI SA-HD-DVD preset profile (with video as RAWAVC .264 file)
– HOW ? It fails with error:
AviSynth script error: DirectShowSource: couldn't open file FEATURE_1.mkv:
Cannot play back the videostream: no suitable decompressor could be found
Is there some important thing missing or do I have to make an AVISynth script – HOW ?

5) Use H264info with only the ‘3:2 Pulldown’ option checked

6) Mux the pulldown video with the audio in TsMuxer, selecting the option to mux with ‘TS muxing’ output

7) Use MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack, select HD-DVD Standard and HD-DVD on DVD something
and drop the .ts muxed file into the timeline and burn the 3xDVD

I learned that eac3to requires Haali Matroska Splitter and MeGUI requires AviSynth.
Are there other important application requirements ?

rack04
10th August 2008, 17:51
I believe that this is the most convincing approach I have seen yet, however being a newbie, I can not get it to work.
I was therefore hoping that you would care to elaborate a little bit on the steps (especially step 4) to make it work:

1) Decrypt with AnyDVD HD
- Can EVODemux be used after this ?

2) Convert video in EVO container to MKV container using eac3to
– what is the actual eac3to command ? Is it simply ‘eac3to FEATURE_1.evo FEATURE_1.mkv’ ?

3) Convert audio in EVO container to AC3 using eac3to
–what is the actual eac3to command ? is it simply ‘eac3to FEATURE_1.evo FEATURE_1.ac3’ ?

4) Encode video to DVD-9 files size using MeGUI SA-HD-DVD preset profile (with video as RAWAVC .264 file)
– HOW ? It fails with error:
AviSynth script error: DirectShowSource: couldn't open file FEATURE_1.mkv:
Cannot play back the videostream: no suitable decompressor could be found
Is there some important thing missing or do I have to make an AVISynth script – HOW ?

5) Use H264info with only the ‘3:2 Pulldown’ option checked

6) Mux the pulldown video with the audio in TsMuxer, selecting the option to mux with ‘TS muxing’ output

7) Use MovieFactory 6 Plus with the HD Pack, select HD-DVD Standard and HD-DVD on DVD something
and drop the .ts muxed file into the timeline and burn the 3xDVD

I learned that eac3to requires Haali Matroska Splitter and MeGUI requires AviSynth.
Are there other important application requirements ?

1.) No
2.) Actual command varies by tracks available
3.) Actual command varies by tracks available
4.) Install ffdshow tryouts and Haali Media Splitter
5.) Don't think this is necessary
6.) Yes
7.) Not familar with that software package

rica
10th August 2008, 20:34
OSL,

I agree with rack04 on 1, 5,6,7.

For the rest i did my homework for you:

In my case eac3to.exe is on the eac3to Folder which i created under C.
Source file(s) is on the TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD > HVDVD_TS under F.
Destination file will be saved on "Newest" folder created on my Desktop.

So principally:

eac3to.exe source folder\source file+source folder\source file (track no:-optional ) "destination folder\destination file"

2)This process will extract all subtitles etc as well so you'd better create a seperate folder-in my case "Newest"

eac3to\eac3to.exe F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_1.EVO+F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_2.EVO "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Newest\newest.mkv"


3)
We get the track info from the created log file:

EVO, 2 video tracks, 7 audio tracks, 4 subtitle tracks, 1:49:00
"Feature Presentation"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 33 chapters with names
3: VC-1, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2)
5: E-AC3, English, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
6: E-AC3, French, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
7: E-AC3, Spanish, 5.1 channels, 640kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
8: E-AC3, English, 2.0 channels, 192kbit/s, 48khz, dialnorm: -27dB
"Director Commentary"

In our sample engilsh 5.1 is track 5 and code:

eac3to\eac3to.exe F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_1.EVO+F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_2.EVO 5: "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\newest.ac3


4)
Load MeGui and update it and restart the application.
MeGui automatically loads all needed secondary software including AviSynt Script Creator (which makes auto avs files from your source files.)
Open MeGui and select: x264:SA-HD DVD (encoder settings) and MKV (file format)
Open AviSynth Script creator under Tools and if you want to config the avisynt profile select what you want (i selected just input and crop)

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/1076/megui01tp7.th.png (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui01tp7.png)

Untick Resize and tick crop and "Auto Crop"

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/7379/megui02rr6.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui02rr6.png)

And cilick "save", you will select the name of the avs file which will be created; i selected newest.avs.

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/17/megui03sx9.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui03sx9.png)

Now MeGui will open created avs file, change the output name-in my case i made newest_out.mkv

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/2238/megui04jk7.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui04jk7.png)

Lets have a look at the avs file created by AviScriptCreator:

DirectShowSource("C:\Users\rica\Desktop\Newest\newest.mkv",fps=23.9759856527702,audio=false)
crop( 0, 146, 0, -144)


(BTW, i normally create my avs files using graph since i fell free myself in selecting demuxers and decoders-see my thread)

Click "Auto Encode" and select these on opening popup window:

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/7192/megui05tn7.th.png (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui05tn7.png)

Select "Queue"

http://img525.imageshack.us/img525/6144/megui06fc1.th.png (http://img525.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui06fc1.png)

Don't care about this popup and select "yes" and start encoding:

http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/9331/megui07mn3.th.png (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=megui07mn3.png)


best
_ _ _ _ _

OSL
11th August 2008, 09:17
Thanks. I'll try this.
Is it better to use another application than MovieFactory 6+ to burn the 3xDVD (often my EP-30 player hangs after playing 3xDVD) ?

ThrottleAbuse
13th August 2008, 11:11
Hey rico on the avs script step where you untick resize and tick crop and click autocrop what should the Input DAR setting be at. Should it be left at whatever the file puts in? Or set to 1:1?

Also I didnt see that you added the audio file in there. I am assuming you do it later with tsMuxeR.

rica
13th August 2008, 18:09
Hi; here you are:

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/792/megui02newui4.png

Leave DAR as is.

Yes i passed audio muxing step with TSMuxer (which is the methot i always use) since i told that already:

I agree with rack04 on 1, 5, 6 , 7.


EDIT:Look post 16...

Here is the right SS (no crop, no resize just input):

http://img376.imageshack.us/img376/8115/avisyntjd9.th.png (http://img376.imageshack.us/my.php?image=avisyntjd9.png)

rack04
13th August 2008, 18:31
I don't think you should be cropping. Your output has to be one of the supported resolutions for HD DVD. Typically the resolution is 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

rica
13th August 2008, 18:40
Yes, you're right; confused :), supposed making just a re-encode...

rica
13th August 2008, 22:49
rack04,

May i make a contribution?


if you are planning to trim the media you got before re-encoding, first of all you should put it into a TS container.

What if you have a vc1 based mkv file remuxed by Haali or eac3to?

Do you know what to meet after remuxing that mkv into a TS with TSMuxer?

I would suggest this: (sample here is an HD DVD)

eac3to\eac3to.exe F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_1.EVO+F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_2.EVO 3: "C:\Users\rica\desktop\try\trial.vc1

instead of this:

eac3to\eac3to.exe F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_1.EVO+F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_2.EVO "C:\Users\rica\Desktop\try\try.mkv"




vc1 files under mkv container create problem with TSMuxer.

TSMuxer creates TS files from the vc1 raw files (as well as h264 files) and you can trim them without any problem with the same muxer.
Demuxed vc1 files by TSMuxer or eac3to, after remuxing them into a ts container with TSMuxer, work very well.

Today, i gave it a go with VC1-mkv files created by eac3to or Haali Muxer; vc1-mkvs never work after remuxing them into a ts container with TSMuxer.

Audio video syncronization is never available since remuxed ts files never understand the duration of the media.

Have a look at this:

Real duration is 1 hr 49 m; no problem with ts and mkv files at all but look at the picture on the right; it seems 3:37:
It is a remuxed TS using a vc1-mkv via TSMuxer.

http://img172.imageshack.us/img172/9706/vc1mkvhk6.th.png (http://img172.imageshack.us/my.php?image=vc1mkvhk6.png)


So i would suggest this:

Steps 2 and 4 depend on whether you gonna cut the file before or after the re-encoding.

1) No trimming before re-encoding:

Follow the ordinary steps 2 and 4, no matter what your source video format (vc1 or h264) is as you don't need to cut them before re-encoding; so you don't need to remux video and audio raw files into a TS container.


2) Trimming before encoding:

2.1) Source video is h264:

You can follow the instructions above; no problem.

2.2) Source video is VC1:

2.2.1- Extract VC1 from the container via eac3to:

eac3to\eac3to.exe F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_1.EVO+F:\TERMINATOR_3_HDDVD\HVDVD_TS\PEVOB_2.EVO 3: "C:\Users\rica\desktop\try\trial.vc1

2.2.2- Extract the audio from the container via eac3to.

2.2.3- Remux them into a TS container for cutting.

2.2.4- Determine the beginning and stop points of trimming opening that remux under your favourite player.

2.2.5- Demux and cut with TSMuxer.

2.2.6- Now you have a raw cut.vc1 and a raw cut.ac3(or whatever).

2.2.7- Re-encode the video with MeGui:

2.2.8- Now you have a cut-video.mkv. Remux it back into TS with cut.ac3 using TSMuxer.

Here is a sample re-encoded file to h264 from a trimmed raw VC1 ts, created using the method 2.2:

http://rapidshare.com/files/137109286/EVO_arc_0.ts.html



best.

rica
14th August 2008, 00:57
2.2.7- Re-encode the video with MeGui:


How?

I think you are familiar with this message as our friend D2VCreator never recognizes TS pin info:

http://img237.imageshack.us/img237/3658/d2v01ey7.th.png (http://img237.imageshack.us/my.php?image=d2v01ey7.png)

so i think you have two ways:

1)Converting video of remuxed TS to mkv via Haali under Graph: (since demuxing again to h264 and remuxing to mkv is no handy with MkvMerge and no way for VC1 files.)

Haali Splitter > Matroska Muxer (output.mkv)

http://img105.imageshack.us/img105/6494/matroskaxv7.th.png (http://img105.imageshack.us/my.php?image=matroskaxv7.png)

And AviSyntScriptCreator will recognize the mkv files.

Default demuxer and decoder will be used in this case.(Running graph on the back-stage)
In my case default filters are Haali and WM Video Decoder DMO:

http://img364.imageshack.us/img364/7906/matrusdefaultas3.th.png (http://img364.imageshack.us/my.php?image=matrusdefaultas3.png)





2)Preparing a graph using the filters as you wish and making a manual avs and opening this avs with MeGui.

Here is what i selected in my own on-purpose graph;

File Source(Async) > Arcsoft MPEG Demux > Arcsoft Video Decoder selected as independent of the default filters:

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/8403/matrusforcednk7.th.png (http://img156.imageshack.us/my.php?image=matrusforcednk7.png)

ThrottleAbuse
14th August 2008, 04:05
I don't think you should be cropping. Your output has to be one of the supported resolutions for HD DVD. Typically the resolution is 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

Ahhh I think that may be my problem. The resolution is 1920x800. Someone pointed out that I should addboarder(0,140,0,140) to my avsscript. I hope this works. I will keep you all updated so when another noob like me stumbles in here they will be able to hopefully benifit from it.

EDIT. After doing the add boarders I was successful at adding the .ts file into MF6+ w/ HD powerpack and having it jump to 99% to create HD DVD folders.

Also does anyone know a way to get MF6+ to recoginze 1280x720 h264 files as HD DVD? Like the HDPatch program does for mpeg files.

ThrottleAbuse
15th August 2008, 07:25
So now I get it all done. Eveything looks great. The .ts file plays just fine in vlc. Seems to have all the right things. Drop into Ulead MF6+. Ulead goes to 99% everything looks good. Creates the HVDVD_TS folder. All the parts look good. So then I burned it. DOH. I didnt check the EVO and it doesnt work. I try the EVO file in VLC and it wont play. Nothing. Change extension to mpeg and try Win Media Player and the picture shows the music graphics and the sound is skipping. WTF could I have done now. I included a screenshot of the .ts file before MF6 and the EVO into tsMuxer if that helps.

rica
15th August 2008, 19:11
So now I get it all done. Eveything looks great. The .ts file plays just fine in vlc. Seems to have all the right things. Drop into Ulead MF6+. Ulead goes to 99% everything looks good. Creates the HVDVD_TS folder. All the parts look good. So then I burned it. DOH. I didnt check the EVO and it doesnt work. I try the EVO file in VLC and it wont play. Nothing. Change extension to mpeg and try Win Media Player and the picture shows the music graphics and the sound is skipping. WTF could I have done now. I included a screenshot of the .ts file before MF6 and the EVO into tsMuxer if that helps.

Try 1920*1080.

ThrottleAbuse
15th August 2008, 21:35
I am not following you rica. Where should I try the 1920*1080?

rica
15th August 2008, 21:39
Remember this; do not crop:

I don't think you should be cropping. Your output has to be one of the supported resolutions for HD DVD. Typically the resolution is 1920x1080 or 1280x720.

ThrottleAbuse
15th August 2008, 22:32
I did have to add borders to get it to 1920x1080

rica
15th August 2008, 23:06
You have no chance to get rid of the f***g black bands if you want to watch your burned media as HD DVD or BD.

But for storage, you can crop for the sake of bit saving.

ThrottleAbuse
15th August 2008, 23:37
I am not worried about the black bands. I am just trying to get a HD DVD that plays in my HD DVD player. I added the black bands to get it into 1920x1080 format so MF6 would not convert the file. The problem I think is to do with MF6+ as it takes a working .ts file and creates the EVO files, but they dont play.

rica
15th August 2008, 23:48
What is your audio format?

ThrottleAbuse
16th August 2008, 00:20
The audio file is ac3

rica
16th August 2008, 00:38
If you are using x264: SA-HD DVD profile while re-encoding,
If you are re-encoding to 1920*1080
If the audio is compatible with HD DVD/BD
If you can watch burned DVD as BD created by TSMuxer with the same file on an ordinary DVD drive.
If you have an MF6 with its HD pack,
and still you can't watch your burned DVDs,
It's time to ask what happening is to MF6 team?

ThrottleAbuse
16th August 2008, 01:01
If the audio is compatible with HD DVD/BD


I thought AC3 at the sample rate I am using is okay.

If you can watch burned DVD as BD created by TSMuxer with the same file on an ordinary DVD drive.


I am not following you on this. Do you mean use MF6 to create a BD onto dvd? I have no idea how to do that.

rica
16th August 2008, 01:14
I am not following you on this. Do you mean use MF6 to create a BD onto dvd? I have no idea how to do that.

No, i didn't say MF6 is doing this, i meant TSMuxer.

If the BD you made by TSMuxer using the same source file which MF6 can't do in HD DVD works, this time you have to ask to MF6 team.

EDIT:
You can use ImageBurn or Nero for burning but you have to select UDF 2.5.

ThrottleAbuse
16th August 2008, 02:05
Fawk I'm lost. So your saying use tsMuxer to take the h264 file and ac3 and mux with the create Blu-ray disk. Then burn this in nero as a UDF2.5. Then try and play the disk in a normal DVD player? If this works then your thinking something is up with MF6?

rica
16th August 2008, 11:13
Fawk I'm lost. So your saying use tsMuxer to take the h264 file and ac3 and mux with the create Blu-ray disk. Then burn this in nero as a UDF2.5. Then try and play the disk in a normal DVD player? If this works then your thinking something is up with MF6?

Yes, that is exactly what i am saying.

BTW i meant ordinary DVD drive for PC and of course you must have the player software sure. (if you have a PS3, you can watch this BD as well)

ThrottleAbuse
16th August 2008, 18:27
I will try this rica. Is there a player software you suggest?

rica
16th August 2008, 20:59
I will try this rica. Is there a player software you suggest?

Arcsoft TMT(you can find 15 day trial version), Cyberlink PowerDVD Ultra.

OSL
18th August 2008, 14:28
Hi Rica,

The tread is becoming a bit confusing to read.
Should I use eac3to mkv or vc-1 output if I want to make a 3xDVD from a HD DVD using UMF6+ (without trimming or cropping) ?
Do I resize (to 720p) in MeGUI ?
Please re-explain step 2 and 4 if I want to make a 3xDVD from a HD DVD (and don't want problems with TSMuxer or UMF6+ reencoding) !

rica
18th August 2008, 21:33
Hi Rica,

The tread is becoming a bit confusing to read.
Should I use eac3to mkv or vc-1 output if I want to make a 3xDVD from a HD DVD using UMF6+ (without trimming or cropping) ?
Do I resize (to 720p) in MeGUI ?
Please re-explain step 2 and 4 if I want to make a 3xDVD from a HD DVD (and don't want problems with TSMuxer or UMF6+ reencoding) !

What i advise would be repeating of the posts 18 and 19; pls. read them again.
step 2 is clear, extract VC1 via eac3to.
step 4 is explained in post 19.
For further reading have a look at:

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1137490#post1137490

Last question; i don't know MF6 but i've downloaded the trial.
As far as i can see, it allows you to make HD DVD Standard on blank HD DVD Disk. If you want to burn on DVDs you have to get AVCHD Plug-in and in this case you can only make h264AVCHD disks on DVDs; neither HD DVD nor BD...

So in any case you have to re-encode them to h264.

BTW, it wouldn't be possible to burn them on 3 DVDs without trimming -at least.

So if you ask me the best method for now i've found re-encode to h264 and burn as BD with TSMuxer onto a dual layer DVD.

OSL
18th August 2008, 22:08
OK, I got to step 4: open MeGUI and select x264:SA-HD DVD and MKV. However when I opened AviSynth Script Creator under Tools and selected my .mkv file from step 2, it failed with: "Avisynth script error: DirectShowSource: RenderFile, the filter graph manager won't talk to me".
Does this error occur because the DirectShow isn't able to deliver any format that is readable to AviSynth. Do I have to create a filter graph manually or something ? Something is missing :confused:

rica
18th August 2008, 22:20
OSL, if it is not under mkv container, it wouldn't recognize.

So the best way is preparing a manual graph like on the link i gave.

And of course a manual avs...

EDIT: Sorry, what mkv? I didn't suggest to make a mkv with eac3to if the source is VC1; just extract VC1.
BTW you must have avisynth 2.5 loaded as well.

OSL
18th August 2008, 22:27
The .mkv file I created in step 2:

eac3to.exe "D:\HD DVD\XXX\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1.EVO"+"D:\HD DVD\XXX\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_2.EVO" "D:\HD DVD\XXX\HVDVD_TS\FEATURE_1_JOINED.mkv"

All EVO files seems to be VC1

rica
18th August 2008, 22:34
Pls. just change the file extension to VC1; never use mkv and try again.

OSL
18th August 2008, 22:39
Do you just mean rename file or run eac3to again ?

rica
18th August 2008, 22:43
Yes, leave the whole command line same except the file extension and run eac3to again.
After getting VC1, remux it with audio via TSMuxer into TS and prepare your graph and script manually or read post 19 for mkv alternative.

OSL
18th August 2008, 23:24
Thanks, but what do you mean by "prepare your graph and script manually" :confused: (sorry to be a bore)

rica
18th August 2008, 23:47
VC1 you created will not be recognized by avisynt script creator and it will not create an aviscript automatically;
so you have to make your own avs by yourself.

Creating graph manually would give you more flexibility on choosing your own filters for decoding which will be used by x264 encoder in encoding phase. (Otherwise automatic avs would select default splitter and decoder which is not always as you would prefer.)

Graph will show what filters should be used to MeGui and avs will show the address of the graph.

Just start MeGui and open your avs.


Sample graph:

http://img380.imageshack.us/img380/915/o01lw4.th.jpg (http://img380.imageshack.us/my.php?image=o01lw4.jpg)

Sample avs:

DirectShowSource("C:\Users\rica\Desktop\EVO\EVO.GRF",fps=23.976,audio=false)

ConvertToYV12()




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OSL
19th August 2008, 00:12
Sorry, you lost me now and your sample graph is unreadable.

rica
19th August 2008, 00:35
Have you written ".GRF while saving the graph file :)

ThrottleAbuse
20th August 2008, 04:52
So I discovered my process was fine in the end and I had a bunch of bad media. At least I hope some people will be able to learn from my issues to clarify any problems they may be having. Thanks again for all the help everyone. Don't worry just like Arnie "I'll be back"

OSL
20th August 2008, 09:47
Have you written ".GRF while saving the graph file :)

No, I unfortunately don't have these ArcSoft filters in GraphStudio.
Do they automatically appear in GraphStudio when ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme is installed ?
Should eac3to use these too ?

rica
20th August 2008, 19:11
Do they automatically appear in GraphStudio when ArcSoft TotalMedia Extreme is installed ?


Yes.

Should eac3to use these too ?

eac3to only uses its dts decoder when needed; if you don't have a DTS/HD/MA audio and you don't convert it to another format, eac3to will never need that. Decoders only be used while re-encoding.

OSL
21st August 2008, 15:52
OK. Where would you scale down from 1080p to 720p (or 1080i) ?

rack04
21st August 2008, 15:53
OK. Where would you scale down from 1080p to 720p (or 1080i) ?

I would leave it at 1080 but if you need some space resize to 720.

OSL
21st August 2008, 16:47
Yes, but at what step/application should I do this ?

rack04
21st August 2008, 16:52
I use MeGUI as a front end for x264. You may also want to test this tool for HD DVD muxing.

http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140459

OSL
21st August 2008, 16:56
OK. Thanks

I was wondering, why do you first Remux the VC1 and AC3 with TSMuxer, only to Demux it again in GraphStudio/MeGUI ?

PS. I wish the Toshiba XD-E500 could play 3xDVD - would have been interesting.

rack04
21st August 2008, 17:28
OK. Thanks

I was wondering, why do you first Remux the VC1 and AC3 with TSMuxer, only to Demux it again in GraphStudio/MeGUI ?

PS. I wish the Toshiba XD-E500 could play 3xDVD - would have been interesting.

You'll have to wait for rica because I don't understand the logic. I've always used eac3to change the container to mkv and convert the audio to ac3. I then generate an avs script and serve to MeGUI.

rica
21st August 2008, 17:29
Read post 18 & 19...
You can leave it as is if you don't need to remux again; you can directly make an avs which address the just video graph prepared by yourself and open it with megui if you are planning to re-encode it.

rica
21st August 2008, 19:46
You'll have to wait for rica because I don't understand the logic. I've always used eac3to change the container to mkv and convert the audio to ac3. I then generate an avs script and serve to MeGUI.

Neither am i :)

1) extract vc1 with eac3to and remux to ts/m2ts/BD

1.1) extracting raw media with eac3to:
EVO(VC1) > VC1
EVO(audio) > audio

1.2)remux them to mkv/ts/m2ts/BD with MkvMerge or TSMuxer.

NO PROBLEM.

2) extract vc1 with eac3to and remux to ts for cutting purposes

2.1) extracting raw media with eac3to:
EVO(VC1) > VC1
EVO(audio) > audio

2.2)remux them to ts with TSMuxer.

2.3)cut-demux it with TSMuxer again.

2.4)Re-encode cut raw video with MeGui.

2.5)Remux re-encoded video with cut audio into mkv/ts/m2ts/BD with MkvMerge Gui or TSMuxer.

NO PROBLEM.

3) extracting-remuxing vc1 video into mkv with eac3to and re-encoding directly to h264

3.1) extracting raw media with eac3to:
EVO(VC1) > mkv
EVO(audio) > audio

3.2)re-encode video with MeGui

3.3)Remux re-encoded video with audio into mkv/ts/m2ts/BD with MkvMerge Gui or TSMuxer.

NO PROBLEM.

4) extracting-remuxing vc1 video into mkv with eac3to and remuxing to mkv/ts/m2ts/BD

4.1) extracting raw media with eac3to:
EVO(VC1) > mkv
EVO(audio) > audio

4.2)Remux them to ts/m2ts/BD with TSMuxer.

PROBLEM!!!!

5) extracting-remuxing vc1 video into mkv with eac3to and remuxing to ts for cutting purposes


5.1) extracting raw media with eac3to:
EVO(VC1) > mkv
EVO(audio) > audio

5.2)Remux them to ts with TSMuxer.

5.3)cut-demux it with TSMuxer again.

5.4)Re-encode cut raw video with MeGui.

5.5)Remux re-encoded video with cut audio into ts/m2ts/BD with MkvMerge Gui or TSMuxer.


PROBLEM!!!!


BTW i don't know the final stage concerning with MF since i don't have it and its HD pluin.


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rica
21st August 2008, 23:46
Lets finalize the issue:

1) If you have a premade mkv-vc1 (including remuxed mkv by eac3to) the best way is to use graph (or mkvextract) to extract VC1.
My choice is graph:

Haali Splitter > Dump

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/1467/dumptovc1oc0.th.png (http://img216.imageshack.us/my.php?image=dumptovc1oc0.png)

2) If you are creating a new mkv-vc1 from a BD/HD DVD rip, forget using to extract/remux to mkv directly with eac3to or haali multiplexer, just extract vc1 directly with eacto/TSMuxer/Graph,

remux with TS muxer into ts for further processing
and you can use any technics as you wish; graph for converting to mkv, TSMuxer for converting to m2ts/BD...

Since TSMuxer has a bug with mkv-vc1s and if you wish to make further processing, follow the instructions above...



_ _ _ _ _

ThrottleAbuse
22nd August 2008, 01:52
WellSonofa....... I tried watching my freshly burned HD DVD last night. It was a stuttering mess. When I tested it the other night I just watched like 5 seconds and thought it was good. So we watched the stuttering for a few minutes and then the sound went in and out and then ended up off sync. It was fine in the begining. So I went back to the drawing board. There is no stutter in the file until I put it into H264info and add 3:2 pulldown to change to 29.97 Any ideas?

I have no idea what is up with the sound. And no idea how to fix it.

I have a rip of a HD DVD that I have been trying to put onto two DVD9's with zero luck. It is an MKV with H264 and AC3 audio. I got it all the way to a .ts that MF6+ will accept and used tssplitter to split it then I got it through MF6 and onto the first disk. It is a stuttery mess that drops audio and gets way off sync too. I used the same process I used on the first attempt so I am for sure thinking I have no freaking idea WTF I am doing. LOL and I was so sure I was over the hump I scored a A3 for a second player in another room. DOH.

rica
22nd August 2008, 02:08
Instructions have been given on previous posts, just follow them :)

ThrottleAbuse
22nd August 2008, 03:59
Instructions have been given on previous posts, just follow them :)


Are you talking to me? If so, I did follow them and it didnt work. Dunno. I can always try again.

OSL
22nd August 2008, 09:37
I hope I am not offending anybody, but may I suggest that we make a fresh description of the steps required for the most playable, stutterfree solution and not just keep referrring to previous mails ?

vmrsss
22nd August 2008, 16:18
Hello everybody

I am trying to follow these instructions, but I am not enjoying much success at all in getting MF6+ with HD pack to mux h264 streams without re-encoding to MPEG2. Also, when I try to define new disc templates many of the options are greyed out, in particular size (fixed on a 1080 format) and the video format is fixed MPEG-2. How's that? Can anybody advice? Am I missing some codecs? Did something go wrong with the installation?

Thx

PS. I forgot to mention that when I try to load a TS containing h264, I get the message: "[filename] is not accessible". After install QT I managed the make it accept h264 inside a .mov container, but when I burned the HDDVD it was converted to mpeg2video. (Not a suprise, because that is what the disc template said: point is, why can't I change the disc template to some AVC video format?)

ThrottleAbuse
22nd August 2008, 18:51
vmrsss I had the same problem with H264 stuff before I bought the HD powerpack. Maybe you need to reinstall the HD powerpack.

vmrsss
22nd August 2008, 18:57
Thanks ThrottleAbuse, I'll try: btw can you edit the disc templates to eg change the video standard from MPEG-2 to something else? Or the size from 1440x1080 to eg 1280x720? Most the fields in my disc template manager are greyed-out, that can't be right, can it?

ThrottleAbuse
22nd August 2008, 22:39
If you are talking in MF6 I dont use it to encode anything. I just use it to make the EVO files to burn to disk as suggested by many people.

OSL
23rd August 2008, 11:23
Steps used:
AnyDVD -> EVO's
eac3to EVO's -> VC1
eac3to EVO's -> AC3 (-448 kbps)
TSMuxer VC1 + AC3 -> TS
MeGUI (Graph filters) TS -> RAWAVC/MKV (--pulldown 32)
TSMuxer MKV + AC3 -> TS
UMF6+ (NTSC) TS -> 3xDVD - SUCCESS PLAYS PERFECTLY

UMF6+ thinks that the TS file has the following properties:

File format: NTSC HDMV
File size: 637.255 KB
Duration: 599.766 seconds
Video type: H.264 Video, Lower Field First
Total frames: 17.975 frame(s)
Attributes: 24 bits, 1920 x 1080, 16:9
Frame rate: 29.970 frames/sec
Data rate: Variable bit rate(Max. 24000 kbps)
Audio type: Dolby Digital Audio
Total samples: 28.788.789 Samples
Attributes: 48000 Hz, 5.1 Channels
Layer: None
Bit rate: 448 kbps

rica
23rd August 2008, 18:47
OSL, i don't have the program as you know;
but if you can save the project as image file, you can use ImageBurn or Nero for burning as selecting UDF2.5 option.

OSL
23rd August 2008, 21:08
Same problem with create disc image or create HD DVD folders.

I'll try it over again ...

ThrottleAbuse
26th August 2008, 02:14
I have for sure isolated the problem to an issue with H264info. When changing the file from 23.996 I click "add 3:2 pulldown" and start it. After that when I remux with tsMuxeR I get the stuttery playback of the .ts which of course doenst play right in my A2. Any other ways to change the framerate from 23.996 to 29.97? Or have I somehow incorrectly used H264info.

OSL
26th August 2008, 08:51
Another issue is that UMF6+ only accepts AC3 sample rate up to 448 kbps and perhaps adding pulldown ...

Mr. Garibaldi
27th August 2008, 04:45
I have for sure isolated the problem to an issue with H264info. When changing the file from 23.996 I click "add 3:2 pulldown" and start it. After that when I remux with tsMuxeR I get the stuttery playback of the .ts which of course doenst play right in my A2. Any other ways to change the framerate from 23.996 to 29.97? Or have I somehow incorrectly used H264info.

If you are re-encoding with MeGui(x264) then use "--pulldown 32" option instead of using H264info.

OSL
27th August 2008, 10:59
SUCCESS - See post 69.
Picture perfect, sounds is a bit off - have to work some more with the ac3 file (maybe because of the pulldown?)

THANKS GUYS !

OSL
28th August 2008, 15:43
Can somebody explain in MeGUI what the difference is between choosing File Format: MKV or RAWAVC, when the (Output) Container chosen is MKV anyway ?

ThrottleAbuse
28th August 2008, 22:25
Well I finally made a good HD DVD last night. I ended up using MeGUI to convert the file and add the borders into a mkv file. I selected the standalone-HD-DVD profile instead of the SA-HD-DVD profile then followed with MKVExtract to extract the H264 file. I then used H264info to add pulldown. tsMuxeR to mux back in the audio then MF6+ w/HD powerpack to create the HD DVD folders and the burned in Nero7 with xbox compatibility. I guess the profile change in MeGUI made the difference. Not sure why, but it worked. I am going to make another movie tonight as MeGUI is cranking away on another mkv as we speak. The Q6600 overclocked to 3.2 gHz is really chewing through this stuff.

Mr. Garibaldi I will look into that option. I thought I looked in MEGUI for a way to add the pulldown, but I had not seen it. I will check into that again as it would eliminate one step in my process.

OSL
28th August 2008, 23:18
The resulting EVO video and audio syncronization problem is a bit worse than I initially thought - it is progressive, with video running faster than audio.
Strange thing is that the ts file used as input to UMF6+ is in perfect sync, but after UMF6+ the resulting (EVO) VIDEO part is running TOO FAST.
Any ideas ?

ThrottleAbuse
29th August 2008, 03:47
So what is the best way to get a 1280x720 23.996fps H264 into a acceptable file for MF6+ to make a HD DVD?

OSL
1st September 2008, 00:07
Well I finally made a good HD DVD last night. I ended up using MeGUI to convert the file and add the borders into a mkv file. I selected the standalone-HD-DVD profile instead of the SA-HD-DVD profile then followed with MKVExtract to extract the H264 file. I then used H264info to add pulldown. tsMuxeR to mux back in the audio then MF6+ w/HD powerpack to create the HD DVD folders and the burned in Nero7 with xbox compatibility. I guess the profile change in MeGUI made the difference. Not sure why, but it worked. I am going to make another movie tonight as MeGUI is cranking away on another mkv as we speak. The Q6600 overclocked to 3.2 gHz is really chewing through this stuff.

Mr. Garibaldi I will look into that option. I thought I looked in MEGUI for a way to add the pulldown, but I had not seen it. I will check into that again as it would eliminate one step in my process.

Could you list MediaInfo for your ts file ?

ThrottleAbuse
4th September 2008, 02:28
OSL if I knew how I would.

I looked it up and will download it and run it when I get home.

General
ID : 1
Complete name : G:\Sample.ts
Format : MPEG-TS
File size : 2.57 GiB
Duration : 42mn 20s
Overall bit rate : 8 705 Kbps
Maximum Overall bit rate : 35.5 Mbps

Video
ID : 4113 (0x1011)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Duration : 42mn 17s
Bit rate : 7 912 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 16/9
Frame rate : 29.970 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive

Audio
ID : 4352 (0x1100)
Menu ID : 1 (0x1)
Format : AC-3
Format/Info : Audio Coding 3
Duration : 42mn 20s
Bit rate mode : Constant
Bit rate : 448 Kbps
Channel(s) : 6 channels
Channel positions : Front: L C R, Rear: L R, LFE
Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz

OSL
4th September 2008, 10:11
Thanks :)

MovieFactory 6+ burns 3xDVD single layer DVD-R (Verbatim 4,7GB) just fine, but fails when attempting to burn dual layer DVD-R DL (Verbatim 8,5GB) - "failed to burn disc"

How can I achieve better DVD-R DL burning compability ? Should I focus on HW or SW ? If the latter, what version of Nero (or imgBurn) and what plug-ins do I need ?

ThrottleAbuse
4th September 2008, 18:13
Yikes. I really may be talking out of school here. I don't burn anything in MF6. I use Nero7Ultra with no other plug ins. I guess imgburn works too. I had problems where I needed to set the disk type to "physical disk" in the past.

OSL
15th September 2008, 09:13
MovieFactory sucks. Even if you enter an intial (negative) audio delay, the timing info is lost and video and audio is never in sync, varying +/- 1 second throughout the movie.

1ellis2345
15th September 2008, 19:38
Hi,

Sorry if this is a really stupid question but here we go.

I've followed the steps detailed previous but i'm having a problem getting the file i have created with megui and h264info to load into mf6. All i keep getting is file mismatch message!

I have no problems coverting for blu ray lol.


I would be happy with any help? Thanks.

shanghai2004
17th September 2008, 12:06
Hi,

I'm following this subject with great interest and try to follow the steps, but no luck so far.

Sorry for the long post, but to have good feedback, there seems not another way then describe what I tried so far.


Workflow:

Bluray: John Mayer concert, decrypt with AnyDVD

Using Windows Vista 32 bits SP1 USA Home Premium

1) Convert video into to MKV with eac3to
- Video format is 1080p24
- Audio has multiple tracks, for test I only use the stereo one

2) Convert the 2ch 96/24 PCM audio track into flac
- Convert 24 to 16 bits
- Down convert 96Khz to 48Khz

3) Convert flac file into AC3 192 kbps with eac3to
- Could have done 2+3 in one go, but also want to keep the loss less audio
- Tested both audio files, play OK in Windows Media Player 11

4) Use MeGUI -> x264 to convert to 1080p24 in lower bit rate
- Use Standalone-HD-DVD profile, 8000 kbps average (MeGUI adds automatically nal-hrd, seems ok)
- MeGUI and its files totally updated 0.3.0.2013
- Video converts no problem (takes about 20 hours)
- Format .264 (AVCRAW)

5) To test the video I remux a/v to MKV with mkvmerge and play with MPC-HC
- Plays OK
- Quality is very good for 8000kbps only

6) Video is 24p, so use H264info to add pulldown flags like instructed before.
- Only 2:3 pulldown selected (H264info also selects 'add picture structure' which cannot be unselected)
- H264info is version alfa 0025-lite
>>edit: Selected also 'write PPS every picture' option ->solves most issues
- Nothing else selected in the UI (except of course the input and output file names)
- After a while the pulled down flagged video is finished.

7) Mux AC3 audio + pulled down video to .TS format with Tsmuxer GUI v1.8.4
- Now it becomes less clear what settings to use...
- The program H.264 track default is to select 'add SPS/PPS
' + 'add picture timing info' Keep selected or not?
- TS format or M2TS format? So far I used TS
- Tsmuxer set to split the file after every 4GB to be able to try 4.7G discs (dual layer media is expensive for testing...)

8) Use MovieFactory 6 Pro + HD pack (just bought and installed)
- Select advanced HD-DVD on DVD4.7 (basic format needs 1GB for the menu which doesn't fit on the disk)
- Keep Menu selected
- Add chapters -> automatic chapters every 5 minutes
- Nothing changed on the menu page
- Try the preview in the preview - test screen, works OK although MF6 is quite slow to respond.
- Last page: Burn disk + make ISO image, MF6 goes on and muxes all without re-encoding within a few minutes, then burns the disk. I use DVD-RW not to waist media.

Seems all good, but:
When I mount the ISO image with Alcohol 52% and play with Powerdvd 7.3 (HD-DVD), the menu displays OK, but when I start the main video, it is unwatchable, keeps skipping then freezing then skipping etc. frames like mux timing info is not correct. Playing Windvd 8 HD will display the first few frames of the video and then crashes.

When I try the DVD-RW disk in a Toshiba A1 HD-DVD player, the disk menu and the background moving image that MF6 automatically adds to the menu, are working fine, but as soon as I start the main video, the screen goes blank en then displays an error (8 digit hex code + 'cannot play this disk')

Tried several combinations of SPS/PPS selected and de-selected, but always get the above result.

Tried another video, this time native 1080p30 format(did not use H264info on that one as no pulldown needed), but same result.

Tried to force MF6 to reencode the video, but MF6 uses MPEG-2 on 25Mbps, which is to large to fit on a DVD.

Questions...
- Did I use H264info correctly?
- What settings to use for TSmuxer? SPS/PPS or not?
add picture timing info or not? change FPS? TS or M2TS?
- Any installed filter (Haali / FFMPEG / ....) I have, might break MF6? Noticed MF6 tries to use Haali to open the TS which crashes the MF6 preview playback, so I uninstalled Haali and tried again
>>edit: Haali splitter does break MF6... makes the chapter timing messed up. Reinstalled Haali without ts/m2ts support.
- Anything else I can test to find where it goes wrong?

Any help would be very welcome for sure...

OSL
17th September 2008, 23:45
Don't use chapters ...

shanghai2004
18th September 2008, 11:25
Tried 3 things this morning:

- To skip H264info step and to use the --pulldown 32 option in MeGUI -> x264 as suggested by Mr. Garibaldi in post #74. Indeed gives directly a pulled down 29.97 fps file without the H264info step.

- The suggestion by OSL (thanks for reply!) not to use chapters

But still no luck, so problem is probably not in H264info nor in the chapters.

Edit: at least found out my Toshiba HD-DVD A1 should work
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=667462

OSL
19th September 2008, 19:01
Try MF6 (Support X disc) save to Folder. Drag HVDVD_TS folder to Nero 7 (DVD-ROM UDF, No multisession, X box mode) and burn DVD-R

Also check audio. ac3 (448 kbs) produced from eac3to seems to work best

shanghai2004
20th September 2008, 05:03
Seems my A1 doesn't like H.264 and AC3 in one file.

Tried to remux the video with PCM audio 2ch 16b 48k in Tsmuxer instead of AC3. PCM was converted with pcm2tsmu into a format Tsmuxer accepts.

Now there is a new problem that MF6 gives error in the disk creation screen before muxing and stops. Seems to be a bug because the preview plays normally and with sound. When 'Normalize audio' is enabled, MF6 muxes and creates the disk.

Now the disk plays in the Toshiba!
But with audio and video stutter... some more testing is needed

OSL: I also will try your suggestion using XBOX mode for disc creation. Thanks!

Edit:
- H.264 interlaced 1080i60 + AC3 448 kbps also works, but some video stutter with good audio
- PCM cannot get this working beyond stuttering audio / video
- Tried MPEG-2 1080p 12000 kbps + AC3 (re-encode in MF6), this plays smooth but with horrible quality, lots of marcoblocking
- Found this: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=128409 but seems abandoned now
>>encode settings seems different from MeGUI Standalone-HD-DVD settings (o.a. minkeyint, maxkeyint)
- Adding chapters in H.264 file does seem to break MF6 muxing (like OSL suggested)

OSL
27th September 2008, 18:14
If ac3 is out of sync in the first 3-5 minuted, try the following:

speedup 3-5min normal
|---------|---------->
0ms -2000ms

ReferenceDivx
27th September 2008, 22:21
shanghai2004 - goto my website and download the James Bond Quantum of solace hd-dvd trailer that my free software created. If it works you might be interested in start using this program. I added a basic workflow plan to my first post in the "free hddvd muxing post" http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140459

shanghai2004
20th October 2008, 07:39
shanghai2004 - goto my website and download the James Bond Quantum of solace hd-dvd trailer that my free software created. If it works you might be interested in start using this program. I added a basic workflow plan to my first post in the "free hddvd muxing post" http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=140459

Thanks for the reply!
I was away for a while so could not try sooner.

Tried it and seems to work, see
http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1197725#post1197725

Note: Instructions say to create UDF 2.5 format DVD disk. But seems not all players like UDF 2.5 format on DVD media, I needed to use XBOX mode (=UDF 2.0?) to get the disk to play.

ThrottleAbuse
26th October 2008, 21:42
Has anyone had troubles with MeGUI kicking out H264 files with the wrong aspect ratio when selecting standard-HD-DVD profile? Every once in awhile it makes the file with the wrong aspect ratio and MF6 will try to encode it at the end. Does anyone know what would cause this or if there is a way to repair the header on the file so you don't have to start the encode with MeGUI over again? Here is what the file looked like with mediainfo after MeGUI encoded it.

General
Complete name : G:\TESTMOVIE.264
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
File size : 7.26 GiB

Video
Format : AVC
Format/Info : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile : High@L4.1
Format settings, CABAC : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames : 3 frames
Bit rate : 9 440 Kbps
Nominal bit rate : 9 440 Kbps
Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
Colorimetry : 4:2:0
Scan type : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.190
Writing library : x264 core 65 r998M 6768543
Encoding settings : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:-1:-1 / analyse=0x3:0x113 / me=umh / subme=7 / psy_rd=1.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=1 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=2 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=-2 / threads=6 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=2 / b_bias=0 / direct=3 / wpredb=1 / keyint=14 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=40(pre) / rc=2pass / bitrate=9440 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / cplxblur=20.0 / qblur=0.5 / vbv_maxrate=24000 / vbv_bufsize=14475 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00

shanghai2004
12th November 2008, 09:22
Has anyone had troubles with MeGUI kicking out H264 files with the wrong aspect ratio when selecting standard-HD-DVD profile?

General
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Width : 1 920 pixels
Height : 1 080 pixels
Display aspect ratio : 2.35
Frame rate : 23.976 fps
Resolution : 24 bits
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You can try to use H264info to reset the aspect ratio to 16:9. Above file seems to need 3:2 pulldown to work properly in MF (at last if you want to mux to HD-DVD), can set the aspect ratio in the same H264info pass.

NB: I found the H264.exe -> H264info 0025 -> Tsmuxer 1.8.4 -> MF 6 workflow occasionally corrupts frames while muxing to HD-DVD when the H264 option 'b_adapt=2' is used.

You might want to try if removing this (using the default 1=fast) helps.

A few 'difficult' frames in the beginning of the file also might make MF 6 rejecting the file or force re-encode.

ThrottleAbuse
14th March 2009, 20:31
I have tried using h264info to change the aspect ratio with no luck. Just makes the file even more wrong.