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smok3
21st July 2008, 16:28
well, here is the test klip;

http://somestuff.org/test/

and i would preffer PAL progressive out of this, my current try is;

LoadCPlugin("t:\utility\avisynth\yadif\yadif.dll")

a=mpeg2source("video.d2v")
b=wavsource("audio.wav")
audiodub(a,b)

# change field-rate;
Bob(height=576) # Separate fields and interpolate them to full height.
BicubicResize(768,576) # Resize to PAL square-pixel frame size.
ConvertFPS(50) # Convert field rate to PAL, using Blend Mode.
SeparateFields.SelectEvery(4,0,3) # Undo Bob, even field first. Use SelectEvery(4,1,2) for odd field first.
Weave() # Finish undoing Bob.

# deinterlacer;
yadif(mode=0)

where the field-rate conversion is directly from avisynth manual, any 'better' ideas? And yes, speed is a virtue.

Alex_ander
21st July 2008, 16:56
You used the word 'film', then possibly you need to inverse-telecine it to restore progressive 23.976, then speed-up to 25fps.
In case of TV sourced material (you can find this out in VDubMod watching by frame), it is not good idea to re-interlace + deinterlace it, you'd better try MVTools (MVFlowFPS function for smooth framerate conversion) after deinterlacing original NTSC.
Here is a page with more conventional solutions for different types of material: http://www.geocities.com/xesdeeni2001/StandardsConversion-Preview-0.html
(NTSCi -> PALp is not recommended there, try MVTools)

2Bdecided
21st July 2008, 16:59
Field blended. There's a 24p or 25p source hiding in there. Good luck getting it out. restore24, cdeblend etc - I don't know, I never do this kind of stuff.

Blending it more (using Convertfps) without trying to unpick the blending, is a pretty nasty thing to do, though sometimes there's no better solution.

Cheers,
David.

Didée
21st July 2008, 17:49
FUBAR. Absolutely FUBAR.

For one, there's lot's of consecutive blendings. Bad for blending restoring scripts. Then, there are even blended no-motion fields. That's an "impossibility" for a (single] normconversion, and blend restorers can't handle such a thing.

Probably this was 23.976 film originally, has been normconverted to 25i with fieldblending, and this fieldblended 25i then has been somehow converted to NTSC again.
If this is from a "commercial" DVD, you should claim your money back.

"Let it be" is the most reasonable advice here.

smok3
21st July 2008, 18:06
i thought so, so my script can stay as it is i guess?

2Bdecided
21st July 2008, 18:33
It's so blended, ChangeFPS might be better than ConvertFPS. It depends what you find more objectionable.

Better still, there's probably a native PAL version of this video somewhere.

Cheers,
David.

smok3
21st July 2008, 21:34
it is not just one video, there is plenty of those...., however the problem is not so evident with more colorful approaches (as opposed to this bw thingy).