fix cell/frame freeze with PgcEdit 8.6?

[varekai]

Hello

Trying to figure out what's wrong with this DVD...
DVD plays fine on standalone DVD player and on computer with software players PowerDVD, VLC etc.
Using well known DVD-rippers and having no problem getting the DVD to harddrive.
Searched forums to find out if there is a known problem with this newer DVD release and
couldn't find anything, all well know rippers can handle it.

Now problem starts, DVD files on HD plays fine with PowerDVD, VLC has a short freeze
at a specific cell 15, last frame, but then continues to play next cell 16.
Then rebuilding with DVD Rebuilder Pro 1.27.3, movie only, CCE SP Trial 2.70.02.10, burning with ImageBurn.
Playing in standalone DVD freeze at cell 16 at first frame and won't continue playing,
only when pushing remote FF the DVD plays on. Tried on 2 different standalone DVD players, same freeze.

When using DVDShrink, movie only, as compresser, burning with IMGBurn,
DVD plays fine on standalone and no freeze, plays fine on computer with PowerDVD and
with VLC there's no short freeze... strange indeed.

I don't think there is anything wrong with DVD-RB and CCE but maybe the problem is the DVD authoring/pressing?
No scratches or anything visible on DVD surface. Would like to know if it's possible to find
out and correct what's wrong using PgcEdit 8.6. I'm not a total newbee with this app but have very
limited understanding of it so if anyone could help me with this?

Here is a screendump from PgcEdit 8.6, don't know if it will help...
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/4913/pgceditdumptl8.jpg

Thanks...

regards varekai

[blutach]

The cell table looks fine. Try a demux with PgcDemux and remux with muxman before processing and see if that helps.

Regards

[varekai]

This DVD-title has subtitles I'd like to keep. Is that possible when
demuxing and remuxing? Is there a free alternative to Muxman Pro?

Thanks blutach... :)

regards varekai

[blutach]

Of course! Look at the PGCDemux and muxman GUIs. Remember to import the celltimes.txt in muxman as your cell table. You may need to fiddle around a bit in the spreadsheet (or easier still in PgcEdit) to align the chapters with cell numbers. Also export and import the CLUT in PgcEdit.

Give it a try - it's really no more than a 10 minute operation.

Regards

[frank]

At cell 16 changes the VOB ID, and timer resets (STC/SCR discontinuity). Maybe VLC has there a problem. The pgc is ok.
If you rip the dvd with DVDShrink all things should be ok.
No DVD Rebuilder is needed.
You can Rebuild time map of current PGC with PgcEdit if you want.

[r0lZ]

Is there a free alternative to Muxman Pro?Muxman basic!

[varekai]

@blutach
Tried your suggestions, with muxman got some issues with subtitles,
wrong colors etc, also audio out of sync... ugh...
will try some more.

@frank
Tried rebuilding time map of current PGC with PgcEdit but no
luck yet. Will do the whole chain once more and then try
rebuilding time map with PgcEdit.

@r0lZ
Thanks... :p

regards varekai

[blutach]

Wrong colours means just copy and paste the CLUT - use PgcEdit, it's easiest (see post 4). If audio is out of sync, you may try a delay or some sort. If it is so badly out of sync, then it's time for a new rip.

Regards

[varekai]

Thanks to all, I finally got it working...
Video plays fine, no freeze, audio is in sync, subtitle colors is right... mission accomplished! :D

Got one last question about the subtitles and sup files.
PGCDemux extracts subtitles to sup files, 2 of each language, one for wide and one for letterbox.
Like "Subpictures_22.sup" and "Subpictures_23.sup"
I can't find any way in MuxMan basic to import and merge the 2 different sup files of each language into one sup?
As in the original subtitle streams, one stream contains both wide and letterbox.
Is it possible to merge the wide and letterbox sup files into one?

regards varekai

[r0lZ]

Load the first stream, and assign it the wide or letterbox attribute (in the main window.) Then, load the next subpic and assign it the other attribute. Both streams will share the same stream number.

You can also change the subpic assignments after the mux with PgcEdit (in the PGC Editor and Domain Stream Attributes.)

[varekai]

Thanls rOlz, will do some more testing using the settings you mention.
Are the wide and letterbox sup identical?
I'm perfectly satisfied with using the "wide" subtitle.
Is there any way of viewing/reading the sup files like text?

regards varekai

[setarip_old]

@varekai

Hi!Is there any way of viewing/reading the sup files like text?One very simple procedure would be to load the .SUP file into DVDSubEdit, then click on "Run OCR" (Takes less than 1 minute!) and then "Save as .SRT".

The .SRT file is an ordinary text file that can be opened in Notepad...

[blutach]

Oftentimes, the bitmaps in the SUPs are positioned differently in a WS vs LB (to ensure they are visible and not cutting off other parts of the video). You can tell if they are different - they will have different stream numbers. In your case, they would be different as there are 2 streams IDs.

Regards

[varekai]

@blutach, yeah, they were slightly different, good idea to keep both WS and LB, thanks...

@setarip_old, thanks for the tip on using DVDSubEdit.

@r0lZ, thanks, all subtitles now work like a charm!

Loaded remuxed video into DVD-RB, burned to DVD, plays just fine on standalone and on computer... :D

[setarip_old]

@setarip_old, thanks for the tip on using DVDSubEdit.You're quite welcome ;>}

Loaded remuxed video into DVD-RB, burned to DVD, plays just fine on standalone and on computer...Glad to hear everything worked out!