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kronos

16th January 2002, 11:54

I have had great time with DVD2SVCD, so my thanks to it's author for his time and effort.
This may sound stupid to some of the experts here but to me is a problem (I am old and have learning deficiencies ;>). I have one (1) vob file with bonus material that I want to transfer to SVCD (smart ripped). The vob plays fine with PowerDVD, so it's OK. I looked, searched, read etc but I don't see how I can make DVD2SVCD read and process anyting other than the ifo file. How could I make DVD2SVCD process it, is it possible?
Please post and/or email me if you think you can help.
BY the way, I have a library of Laserdiscs that I would like to tranfer to SVCDs, is it woth the effort? From what I have seen its a LOT of work. Any ideas, anyone?
Chris

halcyon

15th February 2002, 22:03

I think I have the same issue. On 'Once Upon A Time in China', the english soundtrack is called 'bonus' while the audio commentary is the first english audio track. In any event, from what I can tell from searching these forums, you need to try ripping alternate 'angles' from the main one. I haven't tried it yet, but I know in smart ripper you can select the angle to rip. You can then preview it with PowerDVD by opening it from the hard drive (CTRL-O to open). If you don't have PowerDVD, check out the guide here on doom9.net for playing DVDs from the hard drive. Here's the address for the guide: http://www.doom9.org/mpg/hd-playback.htm

Hope this helps.

-=<halcyon>=-

Labersack

16th February 2002, 13:06

If the vobs of the movie for example are VTS_01_1.vob to VTS_01_6.vob, just rename the vob with the bonus-material to VTS_01_7.vob and copy it together with the movie-vobs and the movie-ifo to your harddisk. (I did this with Smartripper). Then start DVD2SVCD with the files from HD. If the bonus have the same languages, resolution und type (PAL/NTSC) this will work. Don't bother about the wrong time in DVD2SVCD, this displayed time is just from the ifo, before the conversion DVD2SVCD will measure the real time and set the bitrate to fit all on the number of CDs you set it to.

SiliconSoul

16th February 2002, 23:47

where is this option to tell it you want say 4 cds? if you set teh bitrate too high it is just going to make an extra cd it will not adjust the bitrate to make it fit say 4 cds will it? im way confused on this....

17th February 2002, 02:45

In the bitrate tab, every setting can be altered. The no. of CD's and movie lengths can be changed to whatever you want. If you tell it to use 4 CD's for say a 120 min. movie, it will increase the bitrate and spread over 4 CD's. Of course, it will not exceed the maximum av. bitrate so setting too many CD's can be a waste.

I hope this is what you wanted to know. If I've missunderstood the question, please ignore.

Ev

TazMan

17th February 2002, 09:16

Originally posted by Labersack
If the vobs of the movie for example are VTS_01_1.vob to VTS_01_6.vob, just rename the vob with the bonus-material to VTS_01_7.vob and copy it together with the movie-vobs and the movie-ifo to your harddisk. (I did this with Smartripper). Then start DVD2SVCD with the files from HD. If the bonus have the same languages, resolution und type (PAL/NTSC) this will work.

What if they are not the same aspect?? Workaround for that??
Suppose i could just do that to a separate cd but what a waste that would be for 15 min of video!! Sorry - jumped in and talking about a different video!!

TazMan

17th February 2002, 09:35

kronos

17th February 2002, 21:29

It’s nice to see some replies after all this time. Labersack’s answer is the closest to getting somewhere with this. Let me restate the issue here. Most DVDs come with extra material that we usually leave out when ripping (I use Smart ripper) and transfer to SVCD. I have bought many Disney DVDs for my kids and have several of them ruined because of the way my kids (7 – 11 year olds) handle them. SVCD gave me a good solution to protect the originals. Many of these DVDs have bonus material made up by the short cartoons aired long time ago by the Disney Club and Disney Channel. I would like to transfer these, separately, to SVCD. That’s the question, HOW? I am quite certain that if I knew how to create a new IFO file I would be able to convert them with DVD2SVCD, well I don’t. I played around with the original ifo but I couldn’t match the picture with the appropriate sound stream. Then I went the hard way with DVD2AVI, the result was, large – separate – video and sound files that needed to be mixed (Nandub). The sound was either AC3 or WAV. Again, I had to play with sound – video matching and that has hard too. The resulting file could be loaded to DVD2SVCD for processing. This whole deal takes many hours to accomplish (days) and the result is yet to be seen. There must be an easier way, right? Thanks to all the people answering and hope somebody will come up with an efficient solution. :)

SiliconSoul

17th February 2002, 22:23

okay now im jsut trying to see if we can get everyone to understand.

you want the movie on its own set of disc and the bonus material on its own even if it takes two cds or more

you want to rip the bonus material SEPERATE from the movie.

SOMEONE HELP HIM GET THE IFO FILE FOR THE BOUNS MATERIAL.

that is what i believe you are asking... *not* to add it to the end of the movie.

if not then say so, so we can get this figured out and find out how to make dvd2svcd do this.

and i would like to do the same thing get the bonus material seperate so that i do not have to wait ill the end of the movie to see it... just pop it in seperately!

kronos

17th February 2002, 22:37

Well, yes, a separate CD with the bonus material, independent of the movie. There are many cases where we may use this option. An example is the extra cartoons I mentioned before, or there maybe a documentary relative, but independent of the movie, natural disasters (Twister), Gladiator fights in ancient Rome (Gladiator) etc. Clarification: These are examples of vob files found in the original DVD not the second DVD as in the case of Gladiator. The question restated, How do I make DVD2SVCD process vob files separately?

SiliconSoul

18th February 2002, 02:41

BUMP! i want to know the answer to this too someone help us out!

Labersack

18th February 2002, 04:29

You can do every bonus-track on it's own: select its IFO, set bitrate to 2500 und CCE to CBR (Because most of them are together shorter than 40 minutes) and selcet don't make images in DVD2SVCD. This way you will get one MPG-stream of each bonus-track. After this load all this MPGs for example in TSCV and create a SVCD of it. This way you can jump to each track with your remote control. I've done this with Shrek, and the four bonus-items (making of, interview, karaoke, 'trailer') fits onto one CDR74 without problems. The conversion of all these tracks took about 2 hours on a 1200 thunderbird. But you have to do some steps manualy, DVD2SVCD can't (until now?) do this all alone.

ElectronicGuru

18th February 2002, 07:52

Actually there is a solution to this. Check this thread: http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?threadid=12750

I tried this however audio and video was out of synch. If anybody succeeds, please post it here, because I gave up on this.

Labersack

19th February 2002, 03:10

I also tried the method (and many others..) you mentioned, but it also get async. The first item was ok, but between each item the async become more. Probably there ist a problem while switching to the next vob-file. I also get problems because in one item there are two langugages I want to have but in the other three there only was english. For this reason I made four seperate MPG-files and made a SVCD with TSCV and all worked well.