View Full Version : Proper way to detect Bluray pls file?
rernst
22nd June 2008, 03:00
I have run into titles with a great deal of pieces to join to do an eventual recompression. I have used bdedit to locate the proper portions and then joined using TSSplitter. However, this is more of a trial-and-error way. Is there a better way to determine which playlist the player/software actually plays?
SamuriHL
22nd June 2008, 06:21
Ewww. :D The best way is to use eac3to. RipBot will also apparently have this feature in the next version. For now, if you type "eac3to d:" on the command line where d: is your BD drive letter, or a path to a folder on your hard drive where you ripped it to, it will spit out the biggest playlists on the disc. Open that playlist file with TSMuxer and you can process the entire movie without having to join them yourself. MUCH easier. Hopefully TSMuxer will also add seamless branching support to their next version, too. I think people have requested it. We'll see what happens. This way works for now.
dat720
22nd June 2008, 08:26
Yeah i second that, after 30-45mins of eac3to running you will have a mkv file containing the video stream, in this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137128) post i have gone into some detail on how to demux HD/BR using eac3to.
rernst
22nd June 2008, 15:49
Yeah i second that, after 30-45mins of eac3to running you will have a mkv file containing the video stream, in this (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?t=137128) post i have gone into some detail on how to demux HD/BR using eac3to.
eac3to is just a little magic tool. I did not know it could analyze the playlists.
As for the guide a few questions:
Why do you specify --display-dimensions 1:1920x1080 on the first merge? Should mkvmerge not detect the dimensions itself? And why to you crop on encoding (-vf harddup,crop=1920:800:0:142). I am pretty much ok with the command line.
Now, say Rambo, has two video tracks in one playlist (!). One SD and one HD. I am inserting a TSRemux step to pick the exact tracks that I want to retain. I wonder whether I can calready do this with the TSMuxer step?
And one final question: How do I retain the subtitles and chapters? Can I get the subtitles into a sub/idx format? Sorry for the ignorance here.
SamuriHL
22nd June 2008, 16:06
This is why I use eac3to to identify the playlist file and TSMuxer to process it. You can keep or eliminate any part of the streams with TSMuxer. I use it to make movie only ISOs of my movies. I keep the main english audio and english subtitle tracks. Works great!
EPiPH0NE
22nd June 2008, 19:42
For MPEG2 encoding you can just use tsMuxeR to open the MPLS file and mux from there. For AVC you will need to use eac3to.
SamuriHL
22nd June 2008, 19:45
Um, no, I use TSMuxer on VC1, AVC, and MPEG2. Works fine.
jdobbs
22nd June 2008, 21:19
I use TSMuxer to join them together. Just select the playlist and demux or remux into a new M2TS... works with all types (including AVC).
rernst
23rd June 2008, 00:53
Well, I used TSMuxer on Rambo and picked the right pls file but it joined together the wrong parts. I then used BEdit and displayed the m2ts files and built a eacto3 command line which then worked ... To be sure - I used the TSMuxer GUI (which might be the buggy part).
EPiPH0NE
23rd June 2008, 03:00
Um, no, I use TSMuxer on VC1, AVC, and MPEG2. Works fine.
I use an NMT for my BluRay/HD-DVD not HTPC. That's probably why.
SamuriHL
23rd June 2008, 03:07
Ah, ok. Yea, I use my HTPC and just use TSMuxer to create movie only ISOs where I keep the video, main HD audio, and subtitle tracks. Works great!
EPiPH0NE
23rd June 2008, 08:55
Ah, ok. Yea, I use my HTPC and just use TSMuxer to create movie only ISOs where I keep the video, main HD audio, and subtitle tracks. Works great!
I am hoping this method works for stand-alones too as I will be switching my TS/M2TS viewing to a BD-RE 25/50 pretty soon and this method is quicker and easier :)
dat720
23rd June 2008, 09:24
Why do you specify --display-dimensions 1:1920x1080 on the first merge? Should mkvmerge not detect the dimensions itself? And why to you crop on encoding (-vf harddup,crop=1920:800:0:142). I am pretty much ok with the command line.
Not sure really, i read the command line after using a GUI and decided that it work's nicely so i kept doing it, as for cropping, i do crop during the encode, but not all movies require cropping so i leave that command out and add it if i need to crop.
Now, say Rambo, has two video tracks in one playlist (!). One SD and one HD. I am inserting a TSRemux step to pick the exact tracks that I want to retain. I wonder whether I can calready do this with the TSMuxer step?
You can just extract the HD track with eac3to:
EVO, 2 video tracks, 5 audio tracks, 12 subtitle tracks, 2:23:26
"Main Movie"
1: Joined EVO file
2: Chapters, 23 chapters with names
3: h264/AVC, 1080p24 /1.001 (16:9) with pulldown flags
4: VC-1, 480p30 /1.001 (3:2), -84ms
If you choose track 3 in the command it will only take track 3, this log extract is Transformers.
jdobbs
23rd June 2008, 14:00
Well, I used TSMuxer on Rambo and picked the right pls file but it joined together the wrong parts. I then used BEdit and displayed the m2ts files and built a eacto3 command line which then worked ... To be sure - I used the TSMuxer GUI (which might be the buggy part).
I did Rambo, NTSC and it worked fine. Not sure what the difference is.
SamuriHL
23rd June 2008, 14:11
I am hoping this method works for stand-alones too as I will be switching my TS/M2TS viewing to a BD-RE 25/50 pretty soon and this method is quicker and easier :)
Shouldn't be a problem. Just burn the ISO with ImgBurn or whatever once you're done. Good to go. :)
jdobbs
23rd June 2008, 14:39
I am hoping this method works for stand-alones too as I will be switching my TS/M2TS viewing to a BD-RE 25/50 pretty soon and this method is quicker and easier :)It works on my Sony S301 standalone, even when reencoded with X264 and burned to DVD-R.
EPiPH0NE
23rd June 2008, 21:18
It works on my Sony S301 standalone, even when reencoded with X264 and burned to DVD-R.
Awesome. Now when do we get BluRay Rebuilder Pro? :p
jdobbs
23rd June 2008, 21:27
When I get to the point that I have a reasonably stable beta version... I'll let you know. :)
SamuriHL
23rd June 2008, 21:56
Looking forward to it, jdobbs. :) I would definitely like to be part of that beta. :)
EPiPH0NE
24th June 2008, 00:28
I would definitely like to be part of that beta. :)
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